Most Innovative/Unique Moves?

[Guest Dace59]

I think:

The Tomakaze/Imapler/Unprettier/Kid Crusher

The 2K Bomb (Cross leg fishermans suplex to cross leg inverted brainbuster)

La Ayakita 2000 (http://arsionworld.com/rost/move/ayakita2k.htm)

Springboard Reverse Rana hold

Goku Raku STO

Muscle Busters (Submission versions) (Versions of Double chickenwing holds mainly)

Revesrse nothern lights slam to northern lights bridging hold

Side Russian Leg Sweap/Inverted DDT combo (CIMA's one)

Japanese Ocean Cyclone suplex to straight jacket piledriver

[Guest Just call me Dan]

The 3D is and always has been one of my favorites

 

But, the Sitdown powerbomb and neckbreaker combo Kanyon and Raven nearly killed Villano with was sick.

 

I also like E&C's sideslam/reverse DDT combo, and the Hardy'z move where they each grab an arm and a leg and spin the opponent in the air into a slam. Pretty neat

[Guest Dace59]

E&C's sideslam/reverse DDT combo

Comes from Simon and Swinger I think. Sideslam/Inverted DDT or reverse Inverted DDT.

The Hardys look like they're trying to do a (maybe release) Side Russian Leg sweap/inverted bulldog, and going really wrong, still cool though.

[Guest Coffin Surfer]

The Dynamite Kid's cradled tombstone and swan dive head BUTT.  

 

The Great Muta's moonsault, inverted STF and cradled piledriver.

 

Jushin Lygers surfboard with dragon sleeper.

[Guest tombstone]

Like the Impaler always have.

Stunner looks like little else (except a neckbreaker and the curtain call is a bit close for comfort) but the Stunners speed gets it away with it.

Pedigree is good, like a face down piledriver.

 

Like RVD's chair moves Van Dam/Terminator, theres nothing else like them in the big leagues.

 

I also like Edge's variation on the sharpshooter (which is REALLY sore) and that kinda reminds me of Jericho's old Lion Tamer, which I prefer to the Walls of jericho (hurts more, looks cooler and is harder to reverse).

 

Oh yeah, and I think that Hulk Hogan's finisher is the most innovative and hurtful thing Ive ever seen on TV.

 

(smarky whispers)

 

you mean that he doesnt pose people into submision......sorry

[Guest Dace59]

Stunner = seated inverted neckbreaker/ inverted Rude Awakening/ Inverted Curtain Call 2002. That's way it looks like the Curtain Call.

I'd say the Ace Crusher was original, but not much... and Whipwrecker does the Stunner a lot better then Austin. Ace does the best himself I think.. maybe.

 

Edge's move is a standing inverted figure four ankle lock.. the way it looks to me.. but very very cool.. never seen anything like it before.

 

The Van Rukuasator is cool (opp. in tree of woe, chair over face, attacker jumps from oppoiste ropes and leg drops chair into opps. face)

[Guest gusmahler]

Shane Helms's vertebreaker.  Never seen anything like it.  

 

Check it out at Shane Helms's web page.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Hulk Hogan's leg drop.

 

DUH.

 

I mean, sure anyone can do a leg drop..but NO ONE else can cleanly pin wrestlers that are 100,000,000 times better than them with it.

[Guest Dace59]

Shane Helms's vertebreaker.  Never seen anything like it.  

 

He ripped it off from Magnum Kudo, a Joshi star in Japan. Original move of her's, but a lot smoother, faster thab the VB and a headbump.

[Guest Lei Tong]

The Spinning Kudo Driver. Came out before the Vertebreaker and much more crisp and devastating on delivery.

[Guest goodhelmet]

The Impaler is one of my favorite moves even though I think Christian is overrated.

The vertebreaker is another favorite even though I hate the damn Eye of the Hurricane, Nightmare on Helms st, Final Cut, etc.

A move that made me say FUCK the first time I saw it was the Diamond Dust

[Guest Dace59]

Diamond Dust... nice simple.. yet flashy and cool. Works for small to mid big guys much like a plain stunner... Gets points from me... I still wanna see an Avlanche version (opp. sitting on top rope, attacker stading on top rope) though.

[Guest razazteca]

1)Megumi Kudo Driver, in the retirement match against Combat Toyoda

2)Tiger Driver 91

3)Kid Kash's Money Maker

4)CMLL Shocker's Octopus

5)All Hayabusa's finishers -- Falcon Arrow, Phoenix and Firebird splashes

6)Greetings from Ashbury Park (Thunder Fird Bomb?)

7)Dragon Rana

8)2Cold Scorpio's Tumbleweed

9)Asai Moonsault and twisting variations

 

The Innovators of Offense:  Nova, Kanyon, Hurricane Helms

[Guest Dace59]

6)Greetings from Ashbury Park (Thunder Fird Bomb?)

Called a Fire Thunder in WWF: No Mercy

It's either meant to be a very safe and high held inverted piledriver, or a seated jumping shoulder breaker.

 

5)All Hayabusa's finishers -- Falcon Arrow, Phoenix and Firebird splashes

Did he event the Falcon Arrow.. I just wonder because of the name, and it's the original gimick name for the move.

 

The Innovators of Offense:  Nova, Kanyon, Hurricane Helms

Nova is one of the biggest rip off artist in wrestling history!

[Guest gangsteruwa]

I don't know the name of the move, but it is a move that SAT does.  They go to the top rope with their opponant and perform what I can only call a double moonsault suplex.  You have to see it to know what I'm talking about.  Its beautiful.

 

I made up a move (not sure if I actually did, but I have never seen anyone but myself do it) I call it the blackout.  I hold the person like i'm going to give them a fall-away slam and then fling their feet around and drop them with a DDT.  Sorry about a cheap plug but it was very tempting.

[Guest Dace59]

I don't know the name of the move, but it is a move that SAT does.  They go to the top rope with their opponant and perform what I can only call a double moonsault suplex.  You have to see it to know what I'm talking about.  Its beautiful.

 

Top rop double backflip RockBottom is what I guess you're talkinga bout.

 

I hold the person like i'm going to give them a fall-away slam and then fling their feet around and drop them with a DDT.

 

Nice set up for a DDT, but there's a face better one:

Hook opp. for a backslip, as you turn back to back and pull the opp. over you shoulders, throw them forwards, so tehy roll over your back and land on their feet. As sound and they land, kick them in the gut and DDT them (Even Flow style is best)

[Guest razazteca]

Tommy Dreamer the True Innovator of Violence!!!!! lol

 

1)Owen Harts Jumping Piledriver

2)Jerry Lynns Cradle Power Driver

3)Lance Storm's Rolling Half Crab from his match against Jerry Lynn

4)Super Crazy's rolling inverted surfboard move into a dragon sleeper

5)the Crippler Crossface & Wall of Jericho combo from their tag team days

6) DDP using different variations of the Diamond Cutter against Benoit&Raven in the cage matches from WCW

7)Doring and Roadkill double team moves

8)Problem Solver

9)Blue Panther&Dr.Wanger using a double team inverted surfboard on GALAVISION about 2 weeks ago

[Guest Dace59]

1)Owen Harts Jumping Piledriver

It was a jumping inverted piledriver... hardly a unigue move, done more in other fed and Japan. Coll and nasty looking though.

 

3)Lance Storm's Rolling Half Crab from his match against Jerry Lynn

I love the set up... and the elevation

 

4)Super Crazy's rolling inverted surfboard move into a dragon sleeper

Lyger's move, if I'm right.

 

6) DDP using different variations of the Diamond Cutter against Benoit&Raven in the cage matches from WCW

Those spots where brillant and classics.

 

7)Doring and Roadkill double team moves

Most of them come from the Hart Foundation

[Guest]

This is a good topic

[Guest papacita]

The Lion Tamer/Walls of jericho: That move is nasty when applied correctly.

 

Downward Spiral: I dunno why Edge stopped using that move. I loved it.

 

Diamond Dust: Love that move.

 

Chyna's Handspring Elbow: Because NO Papacita post is complete without a cheap plug for the future ex-wife! ;-)

 

Problem Solver from Simon and Swinger: Seemed like a bit of a 3D rip-off, but still it was a crazy finisher.

 

The Unprettier/Tomakaze

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Since I've never seen any puro stuff, I guess I haven't seen much of the really innovative offense, but from what I have seen I've always been really impressed by the Jazz Stinger/fisherman's buster.  Something about those brainbusters and variations...

[Guest Dace59]

Jazz Stinger/fisherman's buster

 

two different moves:

The Jazz Stinger was from ECW, it was an X Factor

Her fisherman's buster is very soft.. but it's better than nothing.

 

If you want anthing puro, I could help... read my stuff.. anything you don't understand, just ask.

[Guest NoCalMike]

I am not sure if they invented it, but when the Eliminators used "Total Elimination" as their finisher I thought it was great. Of course when Kronus would go in and out of his "fat" stages the finisher would become a little more sloppy, but it when they did that move to Francine, I just cringed at how hard she hit the mat, Ouch!

 

I also marked out when Kid Kash reversed a would-be powerbomb off the top rope into a mid-air hurrancanranna(sp?). I am sure he is not the first to do it, but hey, that is the first time I saw it.

 

2 Cold Scorpio's various finishers off the top rope were wicked, especially for a man his size.  It was also cool that he didn't always use the same one as a finisher every time.

[Guest Dace59]

Total Elimination- That move rules ass big time, a great striking finisher.. but better on smaller guys, or girls

 

Kid Kash reversal of Ez Moeny's super bomb was great for two reasons... one, both of them where on the top rope.. more height and impact.. looks better aswel... two, instead of Ranaing him of the turnbuckles when Moeny lifted him out (as is done with most of those super bomb to rana sptos) Kash reversed it in Mid F'n Air! One of my all time favourate spots

[Guest converge241]

Total Elimination has always been my favorite move..not as technical as some of the soundly better Japaneese moves listed here, but i love the effect of impact it gives off.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Downward Spiral: I dunno why Edge stopped using that move. I loved it.

Which came 1st, Edge's "Downward Spiral" or Kanyon's "Flatliner"?  And did anyone else use this before them?

 

I like:

Kudo Driver/Vertebreaker

Shane Helms' flying/leaping neckbreaker

Shane Helms & Shannon Moore's fireman's carry into swinging neckbreaker

Fit Finley's forward rolling fireman's carry (did he "borrow" this from anybody?)

[Guest]

It was the flatliner, and I'm surprised nobody has thought about Chris Jericho's kick ass submission that he did on Scorpio in a match in ECW back in '95. He took something that resembled a double underhook into a headscissors or something rather.

 

It almost looks like the butterfly hold, but that Jericho brought his leg up as well for added pressure. Now THAT was a sweet submission move.

 

The Shining Wizard. That's effective...well, it WAS. Now it's not such a big deal.

 

The British Bulldogs were always coming up with some cool moves, like when Davey Boy would press up somebody, and Dynamite would vault off the man being PRESSED~! and deliver a Swan Dive to the helpless fella!

 

But my all time favorite?

 

It would have to be...The Steiner Screwdriver. Damn, see THAT is a move that could have put Steiner over as a BAD ass if people would just let him do it right. Because, *gasp* HE WAS THE ONLY NORTH AMERICAN THAT COULD DO IT RIGHT!

[Guest]

I always liked:

 

* Shane Helm's version of the "Vertebreaker"

* AJ Styles' "Styles Clash"

* Masato Tanaka's version of the "Diamond Dust"

* Rey Misterio Jr's numerous versions of the Hurricarana

* The Elimantors' "Total Elimination"

 

Oh, and guys, I don't care if they "stole" them from someone or someone did them first. I liked what I saw, and I saw these moves performed by the men I have listed.

 

and of course!, the "Stinkface" by Rikishi (obviously I'm kidding)

[Guest notJames]

Back in the day, before he turned into the Michelin Man, I think Scott Steiner used a backflip blockbuster slam.  I could be wrong though, but man, that was a sweet move.

 

Diamond Dust was pretty damn cool the first time I saw it, too.

 

Nova's Kryptonite Krunch is a nice one, too, though I got sick of his "innovative" blah blah blah crap. That whole "2 piledrivers into a powerbomb" move really got on my nerves. If you're going to do successive moves, at least have them make sense. Kanyon's "Russian leg sweep backward roll into a Breakdown" uses the momentum to complete the move. Nova's crap barely makes sense to me and doesn't look all that good either.

[Guest Dace59]

Back in the day, before he turned into the Michelin Man, I think Scott Steiner used a backflip blockbuster slam.  I could be wrong though, but man, that was a sweet move.

 

Yes, he did used to do that.. very cool.

 

Flatliner was first, yep, Kanyon's being doing the different versions for a long time.

 

Flatliner 1 and 2 came first.

1: Super Soman Drop

2: Reverse STO/ Inverted Side Russian Leg Sweep/ Downward Spiral

3: Reverse Rock Bottom / Reverse Lifting STO

 

Shane Helms' flying/leaping neckbreaker: Just as a note, it's the only move Nova EVER invented.