Was there a lou thesz tribute on sd?

[Guest HartFan86]

I missed it if it there was, can someone tell me if there was or not?

[Guest]

Yeah, one for Wahoo McDaniel too. Better late than never I guess....

[Guest franchise632]

they must have gotten a TON of heat for not doing it on RAW

[Guest papacita]

I missed that.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

they must have gotten a TON of heat for not doing it on RAW

I can imagine... I know I was pissed, and I don't even really know a lot about who Lou Thesz is! I think that what they did do was a little weak though... they could've taken a few minutes out of another segment to do it.

[Guest Invader3k]

This link via Great Hisa's Puroresu Dojo has some good basic info on Lou Thesz, for those curious: http://www.puroresu.com/wrestlers/thesz/

[Guest Human Fly]

At least they did something. Too bad they didn't do anything on Monday, but whatever.

[Guest]

they must have gotten a TON of heat for not doing it on RAW

I can imagine... I know I was pissed, and I don't even really know a lot about who Lou Thesz is! I think that what they did do was a little weak though... they could've taken a few minutes out of another segment to do it.

Look, I love Lou Thesz as much as the next guy - but the WWF had no responsibility whatsoever to do a "tribute" for him. He never worked for the WWWF or the WWF. He's never had a good thing to say about the WWF, either.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they did do some sort of tribute. But what really irks me, is all of these bandwagon jumpers who have never even SEEN a Lou Thesz match, yet they seem to think they have the right to lambaste the WWF for this. Pathetic.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

Yes they did a tribute for both of them. At least they did one.

[Guest]

I missed Smackdown last night, what kind of "Tribute" did they do?

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Funny, now all the dirtsheet sites are claiming it's because of them (meaning that particular site) that the WWF did it. For example read the Smackdown report at WO.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Read this article from WWF.com.  Comparing Angle to Thesz.

 

If you're going to use him like that when he's alive, the least you can do is honor him when he dies.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

It is irrelevant whether or not fans have seen Lou Thesz in order to complain about what the Wwf is doing.

 

This is about Respect.  Respecting the past, hell ACKNOWLEDGING the past.  Mcmahon revisionist history states that before the Wwf wrestling didn't exist.  Before Hogan returned to the Wwf, Mcmahon Revisionist history stated that the 1980's didn't exist either.  We as fans have been subjected to this for a long time now.

 

When Wahoo and Thesz died, two men who were staples of wrestling, (you didn't even have to see them wrestle to know that) and the Wwf didn't even acknowledge their passing, it was very disrespective and indicative of Wwf policy.

 

And then on Smackdown they decided to do a minutes worth of lip service to show that they care...Which is total bullshit.

[Guest Brian]

Besides the fact that the WWF is the only game in town and owns WCW's history; whether they like it or not it is their responsibility.

[Guest dreamer420]

WWF: You're damned if you do, and you're damn if you don't

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Wwf: Not damned if you do it right, and do it right after.

 

This was too delayed, and too little for it to be genuine.

[Guest franchise632]

they must have gotten a TON of heat for not doing it on RAW

I can imagine... I know I was pissed, and I don't even really know a lot about who Lou Thesz is! I think that what they did do was a little weak though... they could've taken a few minutes out of another segment to do it.

Look, I love Lou Thesz as much as the next guy - but the WWF had no responsibility whatsoever to do a "tribute" for him. He never worked for the WWWF or the WWF. He's never had a good thing to say about the WWF, either.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they did do some sort of tribute. But what really irks me, is all of these bandwagon jumpers who have never even SEEN a Lou Thesz match, yet they seem to think they have the right to lambaste the WWF for this. Pathetic.

it is absolutly there responsibility!! They are the only company on a national level. Regardless of him working there or having unkind things to say about "sports entertainment" Its no different then an old school basketball player saying they cant stand the new way. When they die you can be sure they would still tribute them. There should have been no question and it should have been the first thing we saw on RAW.

[Guest]

And then on Smackdown they decided to do a minutes worth of lip service to show that they care...Which is total bullshit.

I just find it disturbing that no one seemed to give two shits about Thesz until he died.

 

I never saw any tributes to Giant Baba on Nitro or Raw back when he passed away. Ah, gotta love the double standard.

 

Anyways, this is moot now, the WWF will never be able to please all of the people all of the time.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

This is the kind of stuff that should be done on Excess, or all compiled together in the WWF's year end show, similar to the way they do it at entertainment awards shows. There's no reason this kind of thing should be on their regular TV shows. And no, they don't have any responsibility to do it, despite what some people might think. The WWF is not in the business of remembering dead people who never worked for them and who most of their fans have never heard of. If Eric Bischoff died, somehow I doubt people would care if the WWF did a tribute to him or not.

[Guest]

This is the kind of stuff that should be done on Excess, or all compiled together in the WWF's year end show, similar to the way they do it at entertainment awards shows. There's no reason this kind of thing should be on their regular TV shows. And no, they don't have any responsibility to do it, despite what some people might think. The WWF is not in the business of remembering dead people who never worked for them and who most of their fans have never heard of. If Eric Bischoff died, somehow I doubt people would care if the WWF did a tribute to him or not.

Very well said.

[Guest Brian]

Oh, Giant Baba, how much did he contribute directly to North American Wrestling? I mean, I understand the Japanese Wrestling companies will pay significant respect to Thesz because he had a significant role there (against Ridozan and influencing the likes of Inoki)

 

 

"The WWF is not in the business of remembering dead people who never worked for them and who most of their fans have never heard of. If Eric Bischoff died, somehow I doubt people would care if the WWF did a tribute to him or not."

 

Eric Bischoff is the only point you can offer against Thesz? They're in the wrestling business. They're the only ones in that business. They own the history now. They assume that responsibility.

 

Of course, nobody mentions that Wahoo's piece was much more disrespectful as he actually competed for said company rather than the assumed property of said company.

[Guest papacita]

it is absolutly there responsibility!! They are the only company on a national level. Regardless of him working there or having unkind things to say about "sports entertainment" Its no different then an old school basketball player saying they cant stand the new way. When they die you can be sure they would still tribute them. There should have been no question and it should have been the first thing we saw on RAW.

 

Wait a minute. How is it WWF's responsibility to pay a tribute to someone? Is there some new law that was passed that says everytime a wrestler dies, WWF has to honor them? Granted, Lou Thesz and Wahoo McDaniel are legends, but WWF doesn't have to do shit for them if they don't want to. They don't even have to do a tribute if one of their current wrestlers died. The WWF is a wrestling federation, not a funeral home, and it's their responsibility to run its business the way it sees fit, not give tributes for dead wrestlers, no matter how great they were. Not that I don't think those two should be honored, but to say that it's the WWF's responsibility is just plain ridiculous.

[Guest]

What is Chyna died? Wouldn't you want her to be shown some respect and givin' a little tribute on RAW or Smackdown? If the WWf didn't, I'm sure Triple H would get the blame for that also.

[Guest]

What if ^

[Guest papacita]

I don't run the WWF. I love the woman but it's not their responsibility to do a damn thing for her.

[Guest]

I don't run the WWF. I love the woman but it's not their responsibility to do a damn thing for her.

I'm sure your feelings would change if that actually happened. You're not going to know unless it happens. You can talk about how you would react all you want, but you're not going to know unless it happens. And that's normal. It's like that with everyone. Everyone on this board that says things like "the WWF doesn't have to give a tribute to anyone, not even if their own wrestlers die" would most likely be singing a completely different tune if Steve Austin quits the WWF next week, and a month later dies in a car wreck, and no one acknowledges it whatsoever on tv.

[Guest]

This is the kind of stuff that should be done on Excess, or all compiled together in the WWF's year end show, similar to the way they do it at entertainment awards shows. There's no reason this kind of thing should be on their regular TV shows. And no, they don't have any responsibility to do it, despite what some people might think. The WWF is not in the business of remembering dead people who never worked for them and who most of their fans have never heard of. If Eric Bischoff died, somehow I doubt people would care if the WWF did a tribute to him or not.

It's about respect. Other sports and forms of entertainment acknowledge the deaths of legends that helped pioneer their respective business, why should the WWF be any different?

[Guest papacita]

I don't run the WWF. I love the woman but it's not their responsibility to do a damn thing for her.

I'm sure your feelings would change if that actually happened. You're not going to know unless it happens. You can talk about how you would react all you want, but you're not going to know unless it happens. And that's normal. It's like that with everyone. Everyone on this board that says things like "the WWF doesn't have to give a tribute to anyone, not even if their own wrestlers die" would most likely be singing a completely different tune if Steve Austin quits the WWF next week, and a month later dies in a car wreck, and no one acknowledges it whatsoever on tv.

You're missing my point here. If Chyna died, hell yeah I'd be pissed if they didn't give her a tribute. I was annoyed that Helen Hart didn't get a tribute, and I don't even like the Harts like that. But to say that the WWF has a responsibility to give someone a tribute is crazy. It's Vince's company and whether we like it or not, they don't have to give a tribute to anyone they don't want to give a tribute to.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

It's as simple as this.

 

Is it wrong not to honour men who have accomplished and influence the business you are in?  Yes, it is wrong.  Its just human decency, its respect.

 

The Wwf doesn't have to do it, you are absolutely right, but then don't go around complaining about people bitching about the Wwf not doing it.  

 

I don't give two shits about the man Lou Thesz, I never knew him, I haven't seen his work, it is the PRINCIBLE on which the Wwf ignores him on that bothers me.

[Guest Mark4steamboat]

when the player from the Vikings died of heat stroke last summer(i feel bad for not remembering his name), all the NFL took time to remember him. So what if Thesz was never in the WWF, HE WAS IN THE WCW HALL OF FAME! shouldnt that at least mean something to McMahon and Company?