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Guest muzanisa

Yesterday I read an old PWI with an interview with Eric Watts. In it he described how he was trained by Chono and others and how he could take out Barry Windham and others. When reading it with the benefit of ten years hindsight it was absolutely no surprise he crashed and burned. Rocky Maivia was in exactly the same posistion when he went heel and Angle could have been after his fucking terrible face run. Instead it was aborted and he was turned back and is feuding in the upper midcard. When Angle was "undefeated" they got out of it quickly by jobbing him to Tazz and he went from stregth to strength rather than turn into Tatanka and getting in pointless feuds with guys who didn't need to be protected and getting nowhere near his feuds with Rock, HHH et al.

 

Now despite being a good worker and a potentially great character if Angle had a long face reign and hadn't been de-pushed he could easily have ended up getting Eric Watts heat. If Angle had gone on a looooooong undefeated streak he could have ended up as Tatanka.

 

As it stands he is the most over heel in the company, the fans don't resent his posistion and he is in a good posistion to become one of the greats. If he had been pushed as an undefeated M/E the You Suck chants he's getting might not be the right kind.

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He doesn't have to be an undefeated main eventer, just a mian eventer. You agree that he should need Lance Storm's help to beat Val Venis?You agree that he should take part in boring hair feuds and fight in Jobber tag matches?

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Well if they didn't make it tag matches then they'd be giving away the PPV match for free.

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But MUST Jobbers (Storm, Venis, Rikishi, Albert) be involved?

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Ammendumn: Rikishi and Albert aren't quite jobbers, but EXTREMELY low midcard.

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Guest muzanisa

M/E in Smackdown

HHH

Hogan

Jericho

 

Hogan Jericho had a match and HHH was involved.

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And unless you were going to get in UT/Austin or get the Rock back and bring in Goldberg who the fuck would you have had them teaming with; Angle/Test Vs Edge/Mark Henry?

Would that have been better?

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Guest Anglesault

Then don't have the match. There is no reason to make Val Venis look equal to/better than Kurt Angle.

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Guest muzanisa

So Angle has a match with HHH on SD instead and loses or wins then has a match on PPV with Edge with no buildup, so no one gives a shit, there's no heat and the match suffers?

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The match has no heat anyway. It's an ASS boring feud with a stupid gimmick that has been so dull and unexciting that it is turning viewers away.

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I disagree on one point. The match on the last PPV was good and by all rights should have driven the feud forward. If anything is killing the feud it is the fact that they are arguing over T-Shirts which is out of the wrestlers control and the fault of the writers.

The Hair Vs Hair stip is obviously there so we know that this is the blowoff (hopefully) . If they have a good match ****+ say then it will be remembered as a good feud with a payoff. If they don't build the match by keeping Angle and Edge together in the lead up then that hurts the match and the feud which would be the second boring Angle feud in a row and would damage Angle.

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The match on the last PPV was good and by all rights should have driven the feud forward

 

I think that should have been the blow off.

 

The Hair Vs Hair stip is obviously there so we know that this is the blowoff (hopefully) .

 

You have to admit, it's a silly stipulation.

 

If they have a good match ****+ say then it will be remembered as a good feud with a payoff.

 

No, it can be remembered as a bad feud with a good pay off.

 

hurts the match and the feud which would be the second boring Angle feud in a row

 

It's way to late to save this feud. I think they should have mercy killed it by now. And if you don't want Angle to have boring feuds, don't put him in there with Edge, King of the Boring Feuds.

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I think that should have been the blow off.

Agreed but it wasn't so feh.

 

You have to admit, it's a silly stipulation.

 

Yes and no. It works in Lucha. It would be great if Angle won. It is a clear signpost that this is the end. A cage or HIAC or loser leaves town would be better but a scaffold or Viagra on a pole would be worse.

 

No, it can be remembered as a bad feud with a good pay off.

 

Payoffs can make a feud good. Not great but good.

 

 

 

It's way to late to save this feud. I think they should have mercy killed it by now. And if you don't want Angle to have boring feuds, don't put him in there with Edge, King of the Boring Feuds.

 

But if you have him in with Jericho, HHH, Rock, Benoit and Hogan ad naseum then he will burn out really quickly which brings me back to my original post

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But if you have him in with Jericho, HHH, Rock, Benoit and Hogan ad naseum then he will burn out really quickly which brings me back to my original post

If you make combinations, you can get a good long time out of it. And maybe in that time, they can find someone who doesn't destroy every feud he's in like Edge does.

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Guest muzanisa

At any one time half will be heels which ups the burnout factor. Maybe as a result of Angle, Edge is the only credible opponent for Angle on SD right now outside the M/E.

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