Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Did Scotty Riggs originally do a pirate gimmick? When did he switch to the narcissist gimmick? How long was Mikey Whipwreck with WCW for? Were there any feuds in WCW that had a clear, conclusive blow off? I mean seriously, I can think of Booker/Benoit in their best of 7, but not much else during the nWo era at least. What was WCW's reaction to WWF overtaking them in the Monday night ratings in early 98? Is this what led to Goldberg winning the title on a Nitro and not on a well built up PPV? Did Shawn Michaels almost sign with WCW before his world title run in the WWF? What was the storyline behind Bret Hart screwing Randy Savage out of the title and leading to their match at Slamboree in 1998? Obviously they had to have someone screw over Savage so Hogan could win the title back, but still... Did DDP ever join the Wolfpac? Was Warrior's WCW debut at Fall Brawl, or had he appeared before then? If so, how did he debut? He wrestled with a patch over one eye after getting drop-toe holded onto a chair by Raven. He did the narcisstic gimmick around April 1999 Mikey was with WCW for about 6 months or so after debuting in March of 1999, but was actually signed in late 1998. None that I can think of, post-NWO if Benoit v Sullivan doesn't count. More Hogan and co. And yes, that is why Goldberg got the title on Nitro, and they pissed away $7m of PPV revenue. So they could win ONE night. No. Bret wanted to win the belt from Hogan, and nobody else. No. He debuted on a Nitro in August of 1998. He came out to interrupt Hogan during a promo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Did Scotty Riggs originally do a pirate gimmick? When did he switch to the narcissist gimmick? He debuted as Bagwell's tag team partner in the ultra-embarrassing American Males tag team. He started wearing the patch when he joined The Flock. He picked up the narcissist gimmick sometime in late 1998. How long was Mikey Whipwreck with WCW for? A few months in 1999. Were there any feuds in WCW that had a clear, conclusive blow off? I mean seriously, I can think of Booker/Benoit in their best of 7, but not much else during the nWo era at least. During that era, none that I can think of. What was WCW's reaction to WWF overtaking them in the Monday night ratings in early 98? Is this what led to Goldberg winning the title on a Nitro and not on a well built up PPV? WCW's answer was more Hollywood Hogan and more big matches on free TV. Beating the WWF in the ratings was more important than being profitable, which bit them in the ass over time. Did Shawn Michaels almost sign with WCW before his world title run in the WWF? If you ask him, he'll deny it. He supposedly wanted to jump at some point in 1997. What was the storyline behind Bret Hart screwing Randy Savage out of the title and leading to their match at Slamboree in 1998? Obviously they had to have someone screw over Savage so Hogan could win the title back, but still... That was all there was to it. You'll probably give it more thought in your posts than they ever did. Did DDP ever join the Wolfpac? No. Was Warrior's WCW debut at Fall Brawl, or had he appeared before then? If so, how did he debut? He appeared on Nitro, out of a cloud of smoke, shortly before Fall Brawl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 What was the story with Bischoff and Nash and others getting in trouble for stuff that happened at strip clubs? I think sports players were involved too? What was the deal with the Steiner/Steiner feud and Bagwell faking a bunch of neck injuries? Why did they keep putting off the Steiner/Steiner match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 What was the story with Bischoff and Nash and others getting in trouble for stuff that happened at strip clubs? I think sports players were involved too? What was the deal with the Steiner/Steiner feud and Bagwell faking a bunch of neck injuries? Why did they keep putting off the Steiner/Steiner match? 1. The Gold Club in Atlanta. There was a trial in 2001. Wild stuff, with it being revealed that Bischoff was a wife swapper, among other things. 2. Bad booking. No further explanation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Bischoff was a wife swapper? Do you remember anything else that was revealed? This stuff should have been in the DVDVR scum thread! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 What was the story with Bischoff and Nash and others getting in trouble for stuff that happened at strip clubs? I think sports players were involved too? Ah, the Gold Club scandal. Yeah, that was an ATL stripclub where athletes and stars got free sexual favors (shut down in 1999 due to racketeering charges). Many WCW stars got laid there (including Bischoff, who testified about his 3way with a Gold Club dancer and his wife). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Has anyone seen the Halloween Havoc pre-show with Cactus Jack and the "Spin the Wheel, Make a Deal" gimmick? I would watch that thing over and over and over and over again. And Battlebowl rocked. Vince should steal it and spin it in a way that totally makes it meaningless and "unique" to the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 What was the story with Bischoff and Nash and others getting in trouble for stuff that happened at strip clubs? I think sports players were involved too? What was the deal with the Steiner/Steiner feud and Bagwell faking a bunch of neck injuries? Why did they keep putting off the Steiner/Steiner match? It was to do with Gold's Strip Club(?) in Atlanta. Hookers and stuff were goingon there. They kept putting it off because either Scott wasn't healthy enough to wrestle or Rick wasn't. They kept faking the neck injury because it was playing off of something that people knew was real, so they felt the need to constantly try and trick people into thinking it had happened again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 I don't remember many of the details. Nash was only mildly mentioned. Seems like Randy Savage was a bigger part of it too though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just before Owen Hart died, WCW were thinking of running an angle faking a wrestler dying in a plane crash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Has anyone seen the Halloween Havoc pre-show with Cactus Jack and the "Spin the Wheel, Make a Deal" gimmick? I would watch that thing over and over and over and over again. And Battlebowl rocked. Vince should steal it and spin it in a way that totally makes it meaningless and "unique" to the WWE. I was watching Starrcade 91 the other night, which was a battle bowl show. The battle royal itself sucked, but a lot of the tag matches were fun. Sting/Abdullah vs. Pillman/Eaton, Cactus Jack/Buddy Lee Parker vs. Steamboat/Todd Champion, Steve Austin/Rick Rude vs. Van Hammer/Big Josh, Bill Kazmaier/Jushin Liger vs. DDP/Mike Graham...weird matchups, but pretty fun matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just before Owen Hart died, WCW were thinking of running an angle faking a wrestler dying in a plane crash. ??? Seriously? Any more to it than this? Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just before Owen Hart died, WCW were thinking of running an angle faking a wrestler dying in a plane crash. WOW. Who? I have a question for you, also. How was Nash going to do the angle he wanted to do in early 1999 involving Steve Austin and Ken Shamrock? Do you know what I'm talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just before Owen Hart died, WCW were thinking of running an angle faking a wrestler dying in a plane crash. WOW. Who? I have a question for you, also. How was Nash going to do the angle he wanted to do in early 1999 involving Steve Austin and Ken Shamrock? Do you know what I'm talking about? Nash/Austin/Shamrock? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Nash supposedly wanted to do a worked shoot involving Goldberg, Ken Shamrock and Steve Austin, but I never could figure out how he planned to pull it off with Austin and Shamrock working for the competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just before Owen Hart died, WCW were thinking of running an angle faking a wrestler dying in a plane crash. WOW. Who? I have a question for you, also. How was Nash going to do the angle he wanted to do in early 1999 involving Steve Austin and Ken Shamrock? Do you know what I'm talking about? It never got to the point of deciding on who to run the angle with. Owen died before they could get that far. I remember the Nash/Leno angle. I don't think he seriously expected Austin and Shamrock to fight. I think it was just a way to make WWF look weak for not accepting a public challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 So Nash was going to challenge them to fight, they wouldn't accept, and then that would make the WWF look bad? That was the idea? That fake plane crash thing is crazy. Does anyone else remember a planned angle (can't remember if it was WCW of WWF) where they'd "blow up" a casino in Las Vegas as part of a storyline? I swear I remember reading that sometime during 1999. It was either going to be an angle with a new character who was a "terrorist" or would involve Steve Austin being involved, I can't remember, it's really vague. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 The "trust fund" Raven stuff was supposed to lead to the Raven/Piper feud. I don't remember the details but I believe Raven dropped hints/comments about someone who'd been a hero to him or something, which would have been Piper, who in actuality was one of Raven's inspirations in the business. So the "trust fund" angle was that Raven's parents left him money or something? It was supposed to be a new twist on the Raven character, that the slacker/generation X guy he'd been in ECW/WCW was just a hipster pose and he was really just a spoiled rich kid with a mansion and a large trust fund. After losing his flock he became depressed and lost interest in the Raven character and returned to being a lazy rich kid. "Jim" and "Chastity" were childhood friends who hung out at his house. It was pretty interesting stuff at the time and Raven is always good at developing his characters, I was sad to see it dropped.... Did Scotty Riggs originally do a pirate gimmick? I might be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure his eye was "injured" by Raven when Raven was trying to get him to join the flock. Raven beat him down enough that Riggs finally relented and joined. I don't remember the narcissist gimmick. He later showed up in ECW in 2000 as RVD's buddy Scotty Anton. I don't think he ever played a pirate though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just one question I have: WCW was supposed to do a show on TNT called Love Hurts on Valentine's Day in 1999. Before that, the special was supposed to be on NBC. The WCW-NBC deal never happened for reasons I never totally understood. Isn't that part of the reason Hogan came back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Does anyone else remember a planned angle (can't remember if it was WCW of WWF) where they'd "blow up" a casino in Las Vegas as part of a storyline? I swear I remember reading that sometime during 1999. It was either going to be an angle with a new character who was a "terrorist" or would involve Steve Austin being involved, I can't remember, it's really vague. That was the Debbie Reynold Casino. Once Vince realised it was a waste of money, they came up with an angle where Austin would blow it up, under the guise of destroying an expensive piece of property that belonged to Vince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Does anyone else remember a planned angle (can't remember if it was WCW of WWF) where they'd "blow up" a casino in Las Vegas as part of a storyline? I swear I remember reading that sometime during 1999. It was either going to be an angle with a new character who was a "terrorist" or would involve Steve Austin being involved, I can't remember, it's really vague. It was WWF. They purchased the Debbie Reynolds casino in Las Vegas and were going to demolish it and rebuild. They were considering running an angle where Austin destroyed the building to piss of Vince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Just one question I have: WCW was supposed to do a show on TNT called Love Hurts on Valentine's Day in 1999. Before that, the special was supposed to be on NBC. The WCW-NBC deal never happened for reasons I never totally understood. Isn't that part of the reason Hogan came back? They had signed a deal for a series of live specials on NBC, because of the NBA strike. However, the strike was settled at the last minute, and the specials never happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Yeah, Raven is always good at making psychologically intriguing characters. Sounds like interesting stuff...didn't Raven leave WCW shortly after that and go back to ECW for a bit before joining the WWF again? Does anyone else remember a planned angle for New Year's Eve 1999 where Vampiro would cast somebody into a pit of fire at midnight or something crazy like that? Another weird angle I swear I read about online at the time that never happened as Russo and Ferrara came in later and switched everything up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Does anyone else remember a planned angle for New Year's Eve 1999 where Vampiro would cast somebody into a pit of fire at midnight or something crazy like that? Another weird angle I swear I read about online at the time that never happened as Russo and Ferrara came in later and switched everything up. Vampiro was going to throw Demon into that pit, and Demon would come out as an angel of some type. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Does anyone else remember a planned angle for New Year's Eve 1999 where Vampiro would cast somebody into a pit of fire at midnight or something crazy like that? Another weird angle I swear I read about online at the time that never happened as Russo and Ferrara came in later and switched everything up. Vampiro was going to throw Demon into that pit, and Demon would come out as an angel of some type. Wow. Yeah. When did Steve McMichael leave WCW? I seem to remember Benoit/McMichael in the tag team title tournament by Malenko replaced him...or was it Benoit/Malenko all along? How did Shane Douglas debut in WCW when he came in 1999? Anyone else remember a story where WCW wanted to get a title off a guy who refused to job, so they taped a match where there was supposed to be a Dusty finish, and then ended up showing it on TV and cutting off the end of the match so it looked like he really lost the title? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Anyone else remember a story where WCW wanted to get a title off a guy who refused to job, so they taped a match where there was supposed to be a Dusty finish, and then ended up showing it on TV and cutting off the end of the match so it looked like he really lost the title? I believe that was the Kensuke Sasaski-One Man Gang US Title deal. New Japan didn't want Sasaski to lose a nobody like Gang, so they did a deal where Gang would cheat to win, but the match would get restarted and Sasaki would get the pin. However, when they aired the match, which was taped right after Starrcade 95 I think, they cut away before the restart, and said Gang had won the US Title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 When did Steve McMichael leave WCW? I seem to remember Benoit/McMichael in the tag team title tournament by Malenko replaced him...or was it Benoit/Malenko all along? Hogan threw BLEACH~! in Mongo's face in an angle in early 1999, and I think that was the last time anyone saw him. He might have gone into a depression over Debra divorcing him. How did Shane Douglas debut in WCW when he came in 1999? Helping Benoit, Malenko and Saturn fight off Jimmy Hart's goons I believe. Then, he did a promo where he used the word "revolution" 875 times. Anyone else remember a story where WCW wanted to get a title off a guy who refused to job, so they taped a match where there was supposed to be a Dusty finish, and then ended up showing it on TV and cutting off the end of the match so it looked like he really lost the title? That sounds carny enough to be true, but it doesn't ring a bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Is there a worse moment in WCW than David Arquette winning the world title? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2004 Is there a worse moment in WCW than David Arquette winning the world title? No, but Jay Leno getting offense in on Hogan was a close second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted November 13, 2004 The entire Hogan v Savage match from Halloween Havoc '96 with the Sting wig crap was pretty embarrassing too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
