Bored Posted November 27, 2004 Author Report Posted November 27, 2004 Looks like ASU is going to be upset by U of A. Now down 34-20 with less than 10 minutes to go.
Damaramu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 And Mike Stoops has a horrible first season but at least ends it on a good note. One things for sure. He definetly isn't his brother.
Bored Posted November 27, 2004 Author Report Posted November 27, 2004 UTEP has accepted an invite to the Houston Bowl which had an open bid now because Nebraska failed to become bowl eligible. What's interesting about that is the WAC has three bowl bids but only three eligible teams so I imagine the WAC can't be too happy about this. Hawaii can still become bowl eligible but they have to be Northwestern and Michigan State the next two weeks to do so. If the Liberty Bowl invites Boise State as expected that would leave the WAC with just one of their team's, Fresno State, going to one of their bowls.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 And Mike Stoops has a horrible first season but at least ends it on a good note. One things for sure. He definetly isn't his brother. Also, the color red is not the color blue. Texas runs away in the second half for the win, but they're still probably headed to the Cotton Bowl.
Damaramu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 And Mike Stoops has a horrible first season but at least ends it on a good note. One things for sure. He definetly isn't his brother. Also, the color red is not the color blue. Texas runs away in the second half for the win, but they're still probably headed to the Cotton Bowl. Well what I'm saying is that some(read Arizona fans)probably thought that b/c of the success Bob Stoops immediately had at OU and the continuing success that Mike might just be as much of a coaching genius as his brother. And I think that's been proven false now.
2GOLD Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 And Mike Stoops has a horrible first season but at least ends it on a good note. One things for sure. He definetly isn't his brother. Also, the color red is not the color blue. Texas runs away in the second half for the win, but they're still probably headed to the Cotton Bowl. Well what I'm saying is that some(read Arizona fans)probably thought that b/c of the success Bob Stoops immediately had at OU and the continuing success that Mike might just be as much of a coaching genius as his brother. And I think that's been proven false now. Because why? I'm not seeing how it's been proving false.
Damaramu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 He only won 3 games! Bob at least had a winning season and went to a bowl with a team that was miserable the year before! I mean sure OU was in better shape than Arizona is but still.....well I guess he did show promise. He lost some close ones and did beat his rival. Plus he's supposedly been a good recruiter. But I mean he's no Bob......
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Most coaches first seasons aren't much to write home about. U of A isn't exactly a national powerhouse like Oklahoma was when Bob took over (yeah they weren't too hot at the time but were still a name school). He's taking over a team that has been atrocious for some time and is a basketball school. You can't become a major school right away. Bob Stoops had the advantage of recruiting in a Football happy environment of the mid-west. Football isn't the same in Arizona, so recruiting is harder. So stop acting like Mike Stoops is inept and a failure because his first season wasn't all that great. U of A wasn't expecting a 9-1 season right out of the gate with stoops, they know he will pay off in the long run. It takes coaches 2-3 years to fully get their program running. If Mike Stoops has another 3 win season next year; then you have a legit complaint to compare him as a lesser to his brother. Instead of taking another sad opportunity to stroke Bob Stoop's dick.
Damaramu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 I'm not saying he's a failure. I just gave him credit for having some close games and beating his rival. But so far he hasn't proved he's as good as Bob Stoops.
CanadianChris Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 He only won 3 games! Bob at least had a winning season and went to a bowl with a team that was miserable the year before! I mean sure OU was in better shape than Arizona is but still.....well I guess he did show promise. He lost some close ones and did beat his rival. Plus he's supposedly been a good recruiter. But I mean he's no Bob...... Give me a break. Arizona is not Oklahoma, Arizona is Arizona. They're perennially bad. Bear Bryant himself could rise from the grave and not be able to coach this team to a bowl bid. Bob Stoops is able to be "Bob Stoops" because he coaches at Oklahoma. If he coached at Arizona, you've never heard of him either. To say that his brother is no "Bob Stoops" even though he coaches at an inferior (and bad) program is fucking ignorant.
Damaramu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Bob Stoops is Bob Stoops not b/c of Oklahoma but b/c he knows what the fuck he is doing, knows the correct system to use, and knows how to get the players he wants. Mike may be a great coach someday but I don't think he's as good as Bob Stoops. Bob is one of the best coaches in the country..period. And that's another thing that makes this Orange Bowl so damn attractive...it's the two best coaches butting heads.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 The tissues are right behind you.
therealworldschampion Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Well yeah that's the problem with Notre Dame! If they had a normal schedule they'd win 10 games! But they seem to schedule the hardest teams possible. I mean do they even have one cream puff on their schedule? That's because they have a ton of rivalry games to play (USC, Michigan, MSU, Purdue, BC) and also NBC probably wants high-profile opponents for home games that they broadcast(explaining games with Tennessee, Florida State, etc.)
Guest MikeSC Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Bob Stoops is Bob Stoops not b/c of Oklahoma but b/c he knows what the fuck he is doing, knows the correct system to use, and knows how to get the players he wants. Mike may be a great coach someday but I don't think he's as good as Bob Stoops. Bob is one of the best coaches in the country..period. And that's another thing that makes this Orange Bowl so damn attractive...it's the two best coaches butting heads. I'll say it --- stick Bob here at S. Carolina and he isn't going to win SEC Titles within 3 years. He isn't exactly a God. -=Mike
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Well; the shit hit the fan now. Dama's outburst should be stuffed with biased delusions that not even Copperfield could pull out of his ass.
Guest MikeSC Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Well; the shit hit the fan now. Dama's outburst should be stuffed with biased delusions that not even Copperfield could pull out of his ass. Bob Stoops is a terrific coach. His defenses at Florida were outstanding (Florida never got credit for having great defenses, yet under Spurrier, that was a common thing). However, to assume that sticking Bob in a far less-known school than Oklahoma would lead to even comparable success is a bit too much. He's a damned good coach --- but there isn't a coach on Earth who would have managed to make Arizona a top-notch team this season. -=Mike
Guest The Shadow Behind You Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Oh i agree with you, but Dama's going to go "STOOPS WOULD WIN A NCAA NATIONAL TITLE WITH D2 TEAM WITH A BLIND QB! BOB IS THE GREATEST COACH EVER! SO HE COULD EASILY LEAD SC TO A NCAA TITLE WITHOUT TRYING. HE SHOULD COACH BASKETBALL TOO! MORE TITLES!"
teke184 Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Well yeah that's the problem with Notre Dame! If they had a normal schedule they'd win 10 games! But they seem to schedule the hardest teams possible. I mean do they even have one cream puff on their schedule? Navy is a cream-puff in MOST years...
Damaramu Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Well; the shit hit the fan now. Dama's outburst should be stuffed with biased delusions that not even Copperfield could pull out of his ass. Bob Stoops is a terrific coach. His defenses at Florida were outstanding (Florida never got credit for having great defenses, yet under Spurrier, that was a common thing). However, to assume that sticking Bob in a far less-known school than Oklahoma would lead to even comparable success is a bit too much. He's a damned good coach --- but there isn't a coach on Earth who would have managed to make Arizona a top-notch team this season. -=Mike I'll ignore Shadow's trolling and agree with you Mike. I see where my mistake was at and I understand. OU was already a traditional powerhouse that had just had about 10 years of bad coaching. It still had the name to get the good players and Bob Stoops was able to do that and use his coaching know how to take them to the top immediately. Unfortunately his brother is stuck with a crappy program that he has to rebuild(can he rebuild something that was never built in the first place?) and try to do something good. From what I hear on the radio he's getting good recruits and has introduced a work ethic to the players that they've never had before. Many older Arizona players commented after summer workouts that they've never worked that hard before. So he is doing good things. My mistake. And I believe that Spurrier and Bob are good friends are they not? Bill Snyder and Steve Spurrier pretty much mentored Stoops and taught him what he needs to know. That's some damn good teachers.
Guest MikeSC Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 I'll ignore Shadow's trolling and agree with you Mike. I see where my mistake was at and I understand. OU was already a traditional powerhouse that had just had about 10 years of bad coaching. It still had the name to get the good players and Bob Stoops was able to do that and use his coaching know how to take them to the top immediately. Unfortunately his brother is stuck with a crappy program that he has to rebuild(can he rebuild something that was never built in the first place?) and try to do something good. From what I hear on the radio he's getting good recruits and has introduced a work ethic to the players that they've never had before. Many older Arizona players commented after summer workouts that they've never worked that hard before. So he is doing good things. My mistake. And I believe that Spurrier and Bob are good friends are they not? Bill Snyder and Steve Spurrier pretty much mentored Stoops and taught him what he needs to know. That's some damn good teachers. I'm not saying Stoops didn't do a lot to redeem Oklahoma, which had fallen on somewhat hard times. But, I do feel he had an advantage in that Oklahoma had more national attention than Arizona and a better history. I'm sure Spurrier and Stoops are still friendly. Most of Spurrier's former coaches seem to like him. -=Mike ...Who's shocked, but thrilled, that Spurrier kept the good asst. coaches from Holtz' staff...
Vern Gagne Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 I'm just waiting for Damaramu to complain that the Sooner mascot isn't a finalist in the Capital One Mascot challenge. Mike pretty much nailed it. However Arizona is a horribly underachieving program that has zero excuses for finishing 3-8. While not all the blame can be placed at Stoops, imo he wasn't as good his first year as advertised.
teke184 Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 There are some decent-sized upsets in the works right now. 1. Syracuse is up 21-3 over Boston College early in the 2nd quarter. That could end up getting the Big East's automatic BCS bid revoked in a year or two. 2. Kentucky over Tennessee 24-22 at the half. Tennessee has already locked up a SEC Title Game berth, but this could knock them down their eventual bowl bid from the Capital One Bowl (Citrus Bowl) to the Cotton Bowl or the Outback Bowl. 3. Missouri over Iowa State 7-0 in the 2nd quarter. If Iowa State loses, then Colorado sneaks into the Big 12 title game.
CanadianChris Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 BWAHAHAHAHA. And a field goal makes it 24-3 Orange. And BC just got picked off...Syracuse looking like they're going to run away and hide in the first half. Hello, Pitt, welcome to the BCS.
cabbageboy Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Oh god. What does that Cuse upset mean exactly? I mean would they actually get the Big East title if they win that game by virtue of wins over BC and Pitt? U of L is soooo gonna have to save that shit conference.
CanadianChris Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Oh god. What does that Cuse upset mean exactly? I mean would they actually get the Big East title if they win that game by virtue of wins over BC and Pitt? U of L is soooo gonna have to save that shit conference. There've been enough lower-tier top-25 teams losing (Bowling Green, Texas A&M) that Pitt should sneak into the top 25, giving them the BCS bid. Man, though...everyone thought Syracuse was going to have trouble winning a game, let alone qualifying for a bowl game. Paul Pasqualoni may have saved his job yet again.
teke184 Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Pitt still has to play South Florida, so they could fall out of the Top 25 even if they make it in this week.
CanadianChris Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 If Pitt loses to South Florida, they don't deserve to go to a BCS bowl. SU at least won when it had to. Of course, if SU could've beaten fucking TEMPLE two weeks ago, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Art Sandusky Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Boy, Kentucky wants to ruin Tennessee's game that was meant to get the starters some rest before Auburn.
CanadianChris Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 30-10 SU over BC right now. Amazing how bad the most successful senior class ever at BC is playing when it matters most.
Art Sandusky Posted November 27, 2004 Report Posted November 27, 2004 Why did Vanderbilt and Kentucky pick this year to both play Tennessee like true rivals do.
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