UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Technically speaking, aren't the final scenes in 3 going to be "smear pieces" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 HI-O!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Whether you want to admit it or not, NASCAR has more fans in the United States than any other sport besides the NFL. And with Dale Jr. being one of the most popular drivers, I have a feeling that this movie will do well for ESPN in the ratings. Of course there are people who hate ESPN because, after they lost out on covering NASCAR races to FOX/NBC, they seem to do race highlights less frequently than they do PBA bowling tour highlights. Which is a loss for them since as mentioned theres a ton of NASCAR fans out there that they aren't catering to (Which is why I guess the Speed Channel's ratings have gone up recently..) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 I don't deny that has alot of fans. But it belongs on ESPN about as much as The World Series of Poker does (not at all). I didn't mind it when it was widely regarded for what it was-A bunch of rednecks driving around in a circle, entertaining however many thousands of race and car crash fans weekly. This idea that we've created "motor sports" and these people are supposed to be regarded as athletes is absurd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 ESPN would be pretty bare bones if it just limited itself to "sports". Basketball Football Hockey (strike one) Baseball Soccer (talk about Americans not giving a shit about a sport) Tennis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooneyTune Report post Posted November 27, 2004 ESPN would be pretty bare bones if it just limited itself to "sports". Basketball Football Hockey (strike one) Baseball Soccer (talk about Americans not giving a shit about a sport) Tennis Even if NASCAR or whatever belongs on ESPN, do you think the World Series of Poker does? If there was ever a horrible show that I would go on a murderous rampage about, it would be this because of the network this is on. Here's an idea! They can buy Extreme Dodgeball from GSN. At least thats somewhat entertaining. And don't knock Soccer, it's pretty entertaining...unless it's a serious ass beating (which never really happens) They also give us the best fights in the world. That must be some brilliant strategy from Nextel, FOX and NBC to sink hundreds of millions of dollars into something that only "rednecks and fans of car crashes like. Every (heterosexual) male in America loves watching people have car accidents...it's just I wouldn't bother watching a movie about some schmuck who drives in a circle for 5 hours turning left the whole time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 . And don't knock Soccer, it's pretty entertaining...unless it's a serious ass beating (which never really happens) They also give us the best fights in the world. Speaking from some experience (I played soccer straight through high school) I can say it's one of the most fun and exciting games on earth to play, but good lord is it boring to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 And of course no one likes to remember that there are road course races each season as well, where they turn right and left. That might actually make it sound as if it requires skill, which they'd rather not have happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 And of course no one likes to remember that there are road course races each season as well, where they turn right and left. That might actually make it sound as if it requires skill, which they'd rather not have happen. Who said it doesn't require skill? Of course it does. So does cooking a meal. No one calls that a sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 "Iron Chef IS TOO a sport, st00pid!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Nevermind, I'm not getting dragged into another futile defense of NASCAR and motorsports as a whole against people who outright refuse to listen. (waits for the next hilaaaaaaaaaarious Czech zinger) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Hey, we listen, you're just completely wrong, that's all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 I'm not a fan of Nascar, but I do place it in the Sports category. As for soccer, the problem in America is that maybe 1-2% of the world's best players play here. Baseball, Basketball, football, etc. are popular here because we feature the world's best players in those respective sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Nevermind, I'm not getting dragged into another futile defense of NASCAR and motorsports as a whole against people who outright refuse to listen. I'm listening. It's just that all the arguments suck. Hell, some ESPN Radio guy said (paraphrasing) "Well, it has to be a sport, they call it motor sports!" I had never stared at my radio for over a minute before. I'm not a fan of Nascar, but I do place it in the Sports category I'd call it a hobby or a pastime, personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 As for soccer, the problem in America is that maybe 1-2% of the world's best players play here. Baseball, Basketball, football, etc. are popular here because we feature the world's best players in those respective sports. How do you think Freddy Adu would do in the English premier league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 I'd call it a hobby or a pastime, personally. The American Heritage Dictionary defines sport as... 1a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. 1b. A particular form of this activity. 2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively. 3. An active pastime; recreation. And a few others. So really, that category can be defined as sport as well. And yes, through technicalities we can define alot of other things as sports. But usually I think of sports as competitive endeavours that require skill. You can quibble a little over interpretations, but I don't think any of us are willing to shift our positions on the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 As for soccer, the problem in America is that maybe 1-2% of the world's best players play here. Baseball, Basketball, football, etc. are popular here because we feature the world's best players in those respective sports. How do you think Freddy Adu would do in the English premier league? Poorly, simply because its nearly impossible for a 15 year old to compete at the highest level of any sport, save gymnastics/figure skating. Maybe when he reaches 18-20 or so, he could compete. He does have the potential to become one of the world's best, in my view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Let's get a letter-writing campaign going to the American Heritage folks to add 4. Not NASCAR. to the definition list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 27, 2004 . But usually I think of sports as competitive endeavours that require skill. Al just made every chess team across the country very happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2004 Model United Nations has a new idol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 Czech, I can't believe my beautiful joke at the top of this page was no-sold so the usual idiots can argue about pointless crap. I was hoping to offend so many and at the same time, make them laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 Well considering there was no "smearing" in the crash then it kind of renders your joke moot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 28, 2004 I was just wondering. Does "I can hit it from here" count as a sport? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2004 "Iron Chef IS TOO a sport, st00pid!" Iron Chef (the Japanese version anyway) is faker than the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites