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Raw 1.3.05 Speculation, Reactions and Complaints

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I think last night was the concession that HHH/Orton for Wrestlemania isn't going to work out. Orton might be over huge as reports from house shows and whatnot indicate, but they're doing the right thing by abandoning it. If that's what they're doing, that is. I personally hope so, as I haven't really found Orton entertaining since the Flair feud.

 

Plus Batista's character has shown way more depth and little idiosyncrasies that Orton's one-dimensional "cocky dickhead that acts like a prick to heels instead of faces now" character has never come close to portraying. At least Rock had the ability to get that conversion to work without deflating his gimmick.

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Guest Dazed
Any theories on the rationale for having HHH/Orton 2 on free TV?

 

It ain't gonna draw dick?

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I think Kotzenjunge called it. That match very much felt like a blowoff to a feud. It wasn't a clean win, so HHH is protected, but Orton gets some measure of revenge for HHH taking the belt.

 

Of course, they didn't do much with Orton's character to indicate that he was really pissed at losing the belt to begin with, and the heels' half-hearted efforts to keep him from getting a rematch actually worked for awhile because Orton did nothing to fight them.

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I think last night was the concession that HHH/Orton for Wrestlemania isn't going to work out.

Seems that way, doesn't it?

 

Hard to justify making the WM main event a match the audience has already seen twice in 6 months.

 

I guess one thing will be to have Batista win the Royal Rumble, but at the same I doubt they think Batista's ready to be World Champion. I'd like to see the HHH/Batista feud be non-title, since they won't need it to get heat the way they've been going so far.

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2 good matches (Benoit/Batista and Edge Jericho) and some nothing

 

To Gene Snitsky: Normally, I'm a fan, but last night during your interview, that went a little too far.

 

The Muhammad Hussan character has reached new pinnackes of suck, IMO. At least they made him a heel not for being an arab character now.

 

Though it most likely, won't happen, and it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, they need to make Kane a heel again at or after the ppv. It just makes more sense then having him as a fac

 

Note: JR and King=bad. Coach alone=bad.But Coach+JR=great. Ross sounded more interesting, and Coach does a great job of hyping the product.

 

Finally, I'm really digging Maven as a hell right now. The WWE better run with this one.

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Guest Mr. Wrestling

I actually thought that Jonathan Coachman did a good job last night. If only for the fact that he put the focus back onto the wrestlers and not on other things like JR and King. I was shocked at how well he did. They shouldn't do that for RAW but it could work for Heat.

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I forgot to mention that I really liked Maven on commentary. A part of his heel schtick should be to have ludicrously exaggerated numbers for everything. When he said "I had 67 of my closest friends over, and we watched, on my massive 70 inch flatscreen TV, footage from two weeks ago about 16 or 18 times," I about died.

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I thought Maven did a good job on commentary as well. They should of stuck him out their with Coach when JR and King were gone.

 

Orton/HHH is definately not going to be apart of this year's Wrestlemania.

 

I think the logical choice right now is to go with HHH/Batista...and Edge will win the World Title.

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Guest TheLastBoyscout
Why the hell wasnt Batista making Jericho look like a jobber instead of Benoit.

How is beating him "making him look like a jobber"?

 

The Benoit buffs here have yet to explain that one.

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What's worse:

 

1) The crowd chanting "USA" in favor of Mohammed's non-American opponent (Jericho, Benoit, Tajiri, ect.)

 

or

 

2) The crowd chanting USA with no Americans in the match (Benoit vs. Fit Finley, Owen vs. Bret, Bret vs. Yoko, La Rez vs. Edge/Benoit, ect.)

Benoit is currently residing in Atlanta and Conway's American, though... :)

 

Isn't Edge living in LA or Tampa these days?

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Guest TheLastBoyscout
What's worse:

 

1) The crowd chanting "USA" in favor of Mohammed's non-American opponent (Jericho, Benoit, Tajiri, ect.)

 

or

 

2) The crowd chanting USA with no Americans in the match (Benoit vs. Fit Finley, Owen vs. Bret, Bret vs. Yoko, La Rez vs. Edge/Benoit, ect.)

Benoit is currently residing in Atlanta and Conway's American, though... :)

 

Isn't Edge living in LA or Tampa these days?

Technically, Yoko was from American Samoa... I think.

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Well, in his defense...I believe that spot was actually planned. As Shelton did one after it, and Conway chewed him out about it.

 

although the forgetting to kick out thing was funny as hell. Especially when pretty much, everyone, in the crowd knew who didn't kick out as they just booed the shit out of him.

And you see, that is the genius of the new GOD OF PRO WRESTLING, Sylvain Grenier.

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