Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 My question is this Hogan is old and understandably not able to keep up with his competition anymore when he got the title it was in the middle of nostalgiamania no his heat has died down people have seen the song and dance and i believe have had enough of Hogan at least in a Main Event title holding capacity Somehow the WWEgh sees money in the Taker-Hogan match at Judgement Day Should Taker take the title away from him right there or would that devalue the title more and lead to worse crap than we are seeing right now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 9, 2002 hmm.... he had tea with Regal...got carried by Jericho...bike stalled... and yet...that Jericho match alone put this reign above the last HHH one (you know...he had only 1 successful title defense...and he pinned his girlfriend...) and people thought that Jericho reign failed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Hogan should win and on Smackdown he should job to Jericho or If i had my way a returning Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Whatmaniac Report post Posted May 9, 2002 My question is this Hogan is old and understandably not able to keep up with his competition anymore when he got the title it was in the middle of nostalgiamania no his heat has died down people have seen the song and dance and i believe have had enough of Hogan at least in a Main Event title holding capacity Somehow the WWEgh sees money in the Taker-Hogan match at Judgement Day Should Taker take the title away from him right there or would that devalue the title more and lead to worse crap than we are seeing right now? Hogan should job the title at Judgement Day. The Undertaker should be a solid transistional champion until the bookers decide who should get the belt next. Right now, I would rather watch Taker in the main event all summer than have to endure another Hogan match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted May 9, 2002 The Undisputed title shouldn't be passed around like doobie these days. The belt needs to stay on someone who can run with it for months, hopefully a year. Hogan is probably not the guy, but neither is the Undertaker. They need someone young, over, and willing to work the busy schedule. My vote goes to Rob Van Dam, Kurt Angle, or Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Its not like Hogan matches are going to go away. Giving the belt to Taker so that someone else can get it is a bad idea IMO. The undisputed championship should have meant something...but the writing buried Jericho, HHH's bulk buried him, Hogan being Hogan buried him and Taker would bury himself too. Plus...4 champs in the 5th month of the year reaks of 1999. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I think he should drop the title as soon as possible sense he's not getting anywhere near the crowd responce he got say at Wrestlemania or even Backlash so I think drop it right away but i can't see him losing to Taker at Judgement Day I'd love to see Jericho beat him too but at the soonest i think it would be at KOR Smackdown does get the next challenger for the title right huh we forgot about that o yea sorry i'm making too much sense following what was said more than a week ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 9, 2002 He may not be getting as good as a response...but he is still getting one of the better ones in the company. Face wise...with Rock out...he's like #2 behind Austin. And I'm not ready to see Austin feuding with both Flair and Vince...killing a full 80 minutes of tv time a week. Jericho, Benoit, Angle, RVD...or bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I wish Rock was around and could turn heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I wish Rock COULD turn heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Have Hogan retain against the Undertaker, and then have him drop to Kurt Angle in a retirement match at King of the Ring. Have Hulkmania end again at the very PPV it died at the first time, AND on its 10th anniversary to boot. This also will start a nice, lengthy run with the belt for Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 A newly bald angle after his hair v hair match will never get the title from Hogan even Anglesault know's thats crazy WWEgh doesn't reward on talent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I don't hate Hulk Hogan, but he is no longer capable to carry a company. The decision to put the title on him was idiotic. Triple H isn't very good either, but the average fan accepted him more than they do with Hogan. In a way, the bookers finally killed Hulkamania for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Two bald American Hero's won't sell its a fact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I could see Hawk interfering in that hair vs hair match I think Hogan should keep the title at Judgement Day, but be beaten real bad by Taker, and injured (worked) Hogan is unable to wrestle and is stripped by Mcmahon (or Flair) and the title is put up in a tourney at KOTR. Taker gets the cred of putting him out, the crowd will get behind Hogan when he comes back and is chasing the title, and you can get the belt on Austin before WMX9 where he will face Hogan and retire him forever. That will be the big money match and it will have had such a slow build it will be fit for a man like Hogan to retire. It will be the final match and have a TON of heat and credibility because it is for the title, and it is the last match for Hulk if he loses (which he will) Torch is officially passed to Austin who will finally have a fire lit under his ass and have another great few years before he does the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 9, 2002 We'll know alot more about future plans for Hulkamania if Beefcake comes out after the hair vs. hair match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Have Angle snap is Ankle and win the title at KOTR. That will give Angle cred. I have an awful feeling thast HGH will crush Jericho in the cell and beat Hogan at KotR so he can join the "6 time" club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 The decision to put the title on him was idiotic. Triple H isn't very good either, but the average fan accepted him more than they do with Hogan. In a way, the bookers finally killed Hulkamania for good. I partially agree and disagree. When Hogan won the title, people I know who don't even remotely follow wrestling were talking about it. Now THAT is a buzz. If they were able to put out a product reminiscant of early 2000 then they would be doing much better right now, but of course they fuck it up. I also think Hogan gets twice as much heat on one of his bad days then Triple H did during his entire title reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 9, 2002 If you don't think Triple H will make Hogan repay the job, you are severly mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I just have this feeling that Hogan will retain at Judgment Day. Why? Well, consider what would happen afterwards. If Taker wins, he could possibly feud with Steve Austin (who just started a feud with Flair), RVD (who won't feud with the WWF champ if he just won the IC belt, or, wouldn't be a contender if he lost twice to Eddie for a secondary belt), Booker T (who just turned face), Bradshaw (which NO ONE wants to see), Benoit (which would be pretty good, actually), Edge (who's not over enough yet), Hogan (again), Kane (which we've seen 100 times), The Rock (who's busy), or Triple H (which would also be pretty good). Hogan, on the other hand, could feud with Big Show (which would make sense with the nWo affiliation), Jericho (which people seemed to dig), Kane (coming back to avenge his brother), Nash (see Big Show), Angle (who could carry Hulk and is very over), Flair (never seen in the WWF), Taker (again), or Vince (who LOVES to book himself in the main event). Looking at it like that, I think it's safe to say Hogan either retains, or we'll see Taker-Hogan II at KOTR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Angle really doesn't have that much hair. It could probably grow back to it's current state in a month. Wasn't the last WWF hair vs. hair match with Jarrett/XPac at Summerslam 98? Strange how Jarrett losing that match created the look that put him in the main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Triple H could have done us all a favor if after losing to Hogan he beat him down and wailed on his body with a chair about ten times. Then Hogan would be forced to retire and vacate the belt, HHH could take three more months off to heal and lose some weight, and we have a tourney for a NEW champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I like this idea of a WWF title tournament. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I dont like Hogan with the title, but they need to have a plan on who they want to have it before dumping it off. The unified title is only five months old and we have three champions..it seems like a lesser of two evils situation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Quote The decision to put the title on him was idiotic. Triple H isn't very good either, but the average fan accepted him more than they do with Hogan. In a way, the bookers finally killed Hulkamania for good. I partially agree and disagree. When Hogan won the title, people I know who don't even remotely follow wrestling were talking about it. Now THAT is a buzz. If they were able to put out a product reminiscant of early 2000 then they would be doing much better right now, but of course they fuck it up. I also think Hogan gets twice as much heat on one of his bad days then Triple H did during his entire title reign. >>> I think you're making an old mistake by Russo: There IS such a thing as "bad" buzz. Hogan getting the World Title generated buzz---but it was not close to being "good" buzz. It was more along the lines of "THAT FOSSIL won the belt?" -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Really, the Rock or Steve Austin should be holding the title, because they are the only 2 guys in pro wrestling that people will tune in specifically to watch these days. Add the fact that they both produce good matches and good promos, and you have the added bonus that the overexposure won't hurt them like it might for others. The big problem, of course, is that the Rock is out and his future is uncertain, and giving Austin the title puts him on Smackdown and leads invariably to a Vince-Austin feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Great point, HMW. Kinda sad that it is that way, but still a great point nonetheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted May 9, 2002 Really, the Rock or Steve Austin should be holding the title, because they are the only 2 guys in pro wrestling that people will tune in specifically to watch these days. Add the fact that they both produce good matches and good promos, and you have the added bonus that the overexposure won't hurt them like it might for others. The big problem, of course, is that the Rock is out and his future is uncertain, and giving Austin the title puts him on Smackdown and leads invariably to a Vince-Austin feud. >>> Honestly, I think the WWE should put the strap on a heel. Fans LOVE watching the face pursue the heel. The only heels over enough to really warrant a World Title are Angle and Jericho (unless HHH wises up and decides to, finally, go back to being a heel). Since Jericho won't be a possible option (though I'm amazed that he's still over), let Angle hold it. Gets good heel heat. Has the look and credentials to be taken seriously. And he can drag good matches out of people. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted May 9, 2002 I also agree with having Angle beat Hogan at KOTR. Hell, why not? After all, Angle's entire "American hero" character is basically a parody of Hogan, and with Angle being God in the ring and all, I think they could even get some entertaining matches out of it. (And to make this work, it means that Kurt would need to win that hair match. Come on, who WOULDN'T want to see Edge shaved bald?) A side note: has anyone else noticed that Hogan hasn't won a match clean since he's returned? Yeah, he pinned Rock in that handicap match, but it was three-on-two so it doesn't really count. Since then, he lost CLEAN at 'Mania, has been involved in DQs and COs in tag matches, beat HHH because of outside interference, beat Jericho because of outside interference, etc. He hasn't actually beaten anybody since he came back, and he was pinned once himself. I'd say the WW(F)E hasn't completely lost their minds yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 10, 2002 Angle or Jericho are really the only choices that make sense if Hogan wins and i think Jericho makes more sense sense he has some history with Hogan sense before Backlash doesn't mean the WWEgh will see it that way BTW Edge loosing his hair may have the same effect on him as it did on Jarret although i don't think Jarret was ever as over in WWF as Edge is now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
