KingPK 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I've heard this brought up on some of the sports shows, and I think it would make for a good discussion here. McNabb - Team has lost 3 consecutive conference title games....No TO means he doesn't have that surefire receiver to throw to.....Atlanta loves to rush the QB. Vick - Is thought of as the QB of the future.....Most of the Falcons' offense is based around his running ability.....Numbers are pretty average when he actually throws the ball.....Is a dome QB that will play in the cold/snow. Brady - Two time SB MVP on a team that is looking to go back-to-back and create the first salary cap/parity era dynasty. Roethlisberger - The new kid on the block.....Wants to become first rookie QB to start a Super Bowl.....Played REALLY bad against the Jets and probably wants to show that he isn't the weak link on the team. I'd say McNabb, because of the 3 straight losses. Philly will riot if they lose again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Michael Vick, specifically from the Eagles' defense... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 21, 2005 BenRo, easily. Had a horrible game and is playing a defense that is undefeated when facing a QB for the second time in a season. There is that whole rookie thing people often forget about, not to mention the pressure of being the first Steeler QB to win an AFC Championship at home since.. Neil O'Donnell? in `95. And as we all know, Cowher hasn't done well with homefield advantage in the playoffs. Vick's responded to pressure well, I don't think McNabb is buying into all the hype, and Brady.. Brady and breaking under pressure don't mix at all, as we all should know well by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 As an aside, I think that the QB with the LEAST pressure on him might just be Brady, especially since Dillon will help take some off (not just with his running, but his ablilty to pick up the Steeler blitz and block), and Deion Branch will play this time (he missed the first matchup). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 McNabb because this is his 4th straight title game. Easy. Ben Ro is a rookie, and Vick is young, Brady has 2 rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted January 21, 2005 It's easily McNabb. He has to win this game or the fans will forever label him as a choker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 McNabb - Playing in his 4th straight NFC Championship Game, 3rd at home. If they lose here, Eagles fans are going to be demanding some answers. Vick - He was injured last year, and the team was terrible. He's done well just to get this far. Roethlisberger - Rookie who won 15 straight games. If he loses, the blame will go on Cowher, who's playoff record isn't great. Just like Marty got the blame for the Chargers loss. Brady - He's a two time Super Bowl MVP. He won't have any pressure on him. It is easily McNabb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Just to add: There's zero pressure on Vick. He could play horribly and most people will make every excuse in the book for the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 McNabb easily. There is going to be either one massive party or one massive riot in the entire Delaware Valley region(eastern PA, southern NJ, and Delaware) depending on what happens Sunday. McNabb has to win this game or he is going to get hit with the choker label. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted January 21, 2005 McNabb. No question. He's lost three straight NFC Conference title games and losing the 4th severely damages his legancy thats still growing. Some will say "he still has the NO T.O excuse". I dont buy that. The defense is loads better then last season. Vick had an amazing season but not many expected the team to rebound from last season so quickly and so dominatly on the defensive side. If he loses; People will go "he's young. he'll get more chances". Ben Roth is a rookie. He has the cop out excuse of all cop out excuses and he's not supposed to be the reason they win. It's the defense and Bettis/Staley feeling the heat. Pittsburgh sure as hell weren't expecting the playoffs much less a 15-1 season with a rookie qb. They lose, it'll be looked back as either "the start of something special" or "abnormal season". Brady has no pressure. He's still ignored in favor of those other three qb's. He works best under the radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixrising 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Just to add: There's zero pressure on Vick. He could play horribly and most people will make every excuse in the book for the guy. Also with Vick, it's his first conference championship appearance so if he loses they'll just say he'll be back to many more. Easily McNabb. Losing four conference championships in a row would brand him as the guy who can't win the big one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Vick and Roethlisberger are basically in the same situation, early in their career and they've accomplished a lot already, but making/winning the Super Bowl would be huge for either of them. But its not really a lot of pressure. Brady has a bit of pressure on him in the form of getting his team back to the Super Bowl for the 3rd time in 4 years, and the fact that he's still not lost a playoff game. But I think McNabb has the most pressure on him. How many more Championship games can he lose in a row before it becomes an "I know Im gonna lose this game, it doesn't matter.." syndrome. Surely hes not going to lose his job or get traded, but eventually the Philly fans will have to turn on someone, and who better than the guy with a $115 million contract that cant win a big game? People talk about Peyton Manning choking all the time, but is there really a bigger choker than McNabb? Lead your team to 3 division titles..and then lose 3 Conference Title games in a row including 2 straight at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Holy shit I can post in sports! That being said I would have to say McNabb. He just doesn't have many weapons still and is being looked at to carry the offense. I don't buy this garbage that Brian Westbrook is the second coming of Marshal Faulk as his teamates are saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Along with that; Vick has the "we got a young team still learning this system", "I still hardly have worthwhile WR's forcing me to run more", "We lost to a team that been here 4 years straight. not like we were beaten by a lesser team" excuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 People talk about Peyton Manning choking all the time, but is there really a bigger choker than McNabb? Lead your team to 3 division titles..and then lose 3 Conference Title games in a row including 2 straight at home. Peyton's is bigger. Peyton's choking history goes back to Tennessee when he could never beat Florida or win the national championship and the Vols finally did after he left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Oh; McNabb also plays in the vicious city of Philly . Atlanta hardly could give a shit about the falcons or anything at all for that matter in regards to sports. Brady lucked out on the BoSox high still in effect that New Englanders will go "meh we lost the afc title game to a rookie qb but the sox won!!!" and Pittsburgh's a blue collar town where there's hardly a intimidating media presence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Oh; McNabb also plays in the vicious city of Philly . Oh the media and fans will be all over him if they lose and he plays bad, but God help Todd Pinkston if he pulls out a repeat performance of last year and they lose, because the Eagles will have to cut him no matter what due to the grilling he'll take from the media and fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I saw that Vitamin X explained why it will be BenRo, but how about the other three that picked him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted January 21, 2005 McNabb has all of the pressure, especially without his biggest and best weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I picked him, because he's under tremendous pressure as the "savior of Pittsburgh" and you people don't realize that Pittsburgh is as hard on their quarterbacks as NY is on their head coaches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted January 21, 2005 BenRo isn't under ANY pressure. The Steelers being this far is just the cherry on top to a surprising year. The Eagles and McNabb were expected four years ago to win it all. They've choked everytime. Ther isn't any real comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 You're insane or you don't understand the city of Pittsburgh if you think that. Ben Roethlisberger will be labelled as a bust by the city if they don't win the Super Bowl. Mark my words. Shit, there was a fucking stampede of people jumping off his bandwagon last week when he almost lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted January 21, 2005 You can't pin the Eagles losses on McNabb solely, as I'm sure Dama is in the process of furiously typing up right now, but I agree with him. The pressure isn't just on McNabb, it's on that whole damn team which has for the most part stayed together through those 3 straight losses. When it comes down to game time, BenRo has got the worst of it. Vick is confident enough and already has a legendary victory in his career, while Roethlisberger has to prove he won't lay an egg like he did last week against the Jets, who by all means should have beaten the Steelers all the while defeating the defending champs. I'd say it's pretty close between McNabb and Roethlisberger, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 You're insane or you don't understand the city of Pittsburgh if you think that. Ben Roethlisberger will be labelled as a bust by the city if they don't win the Super Bowl. Mark my words. Shit, there was a fucking stampede of people jumping off his bandwagon last week when he almost lost. Believe me, the shit BenRo will get if the Steelers lose is nothing compared to the shit McNabb will get if the Eagles lose from nearly every fan and the media here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted January 21, 2005 You're insane or you don't understand the city of Pittsburgh if you think that. Ben Roethlisberger will be labelled as a bust by the city if they don't win the Super Bowl. Mark my words. Shit, there was a fucking stampede of people jumping off his bandwagon last week when he almost lost. Believe me, the shit BenRo will get if the Steelers lose is nothing compared to the shit McNabb will get if the Eagles lose from nearly every fan and the media here. No shit. Tyler is the angelsault of the nfl. quit over-dramatizing over YOUR team. The heat McNabb will catch from EVERYONE will surpass anything BenRo will catch. If BenRo plays badly, everyone will forgive it because he won 13 straight FUCKING games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Agreed with that. The Steelers were a huge suprise this year, the Eagles were pretty much expected to get to this point again. Another point I'd like to bring up about the Eagles' pressure is how important it is for the Eagles to not let Atlanta get up by 7-10 points early. If the Falcons get up a decent amount early, all of the energy probably gets taken out of the stadium and the impending doom sets in. If the Eagles can get a lead early and build on it, the fans get more and more louder and Atlanta will get in trouble. I got two scenarios for this game basically: Scenario 1: Atlanta rolls down the field, scores, stadium gets quiet, Eagles get in trouble Scenario 2: A repeat of the game against Green Bay last month. Eagles come out, get Vick to turn it over, score, get the ball back, score again and end up running the Falcons out of the stadium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 That's a pretty good point VX. All I've heard this week is "If the game is put into Ben's hands, the Steelers are in trouble", and Bettis (the Halloween game excepting) doesn't usually put up really huge numbers against the Pats (whose run D has gotten better as the year went on). I don't know about Staley's numbers. Plus, he's facing a Bill Belichick defense that has played him once before and has plenty of film on him. McNabb's probably got the most, but yeah, Ben has a good amount on him as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 The people of Pittsburgh aren't terribly stupid. Rothlisberger > Tommy "I WAS THE XFL MVP DAMNIT" Maddox God help Tommy if they win the Super Bowl..he'll be the answer to "Who was the only player to win the XFL Championship and the Super Bowl?" and it will haunt him for the rest of his life.. like thats some huge accomplishment since it was really no thanks to him (err..well he DID get hurt).. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 That would be a hell of a trivia question 10 years from now if that happens: "Which player is the only one to have won the XFL title and a Super Bowl?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2005 This is McNabb without a shadow of a doubt. Brady already has two rings so he doesn't have THAT much pressure. Roethlisberger is a rookie and a bad game is almost expected. This is Vick's first shot at the main stage and he'll likely have more chances in the future (and besides it's on the road). McNabb absolutely HAS to win this game or forever be branded as a choker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
