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"Statement: "Reality TV", made of shows as diverse as Jerry Springer and Survivor, is easily the worst TV fad of the 90's/00's. "

 

Agreed. There isn't anything worse. All America has become is one big gossip factory.

 

Statement: MTV has now become the death of the music industry.

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Guest Kingpk

<<Statement: MTV has now become the death of the music industry.>>

 

Support (somewhat): It definitely hasn't helped the industry by totally focusing on the "flavor of the month" artists most of the time (Spears, N'Suck), but if you look hard enough, even watch VH-1, you'll get some good stuff.

 

 

Statement: You can count the number of good network TV shows on one hand.  Cable is the place to go for the good stuff (Sopranos, et al)

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Statement: MTV has now become the death of the music industry.

Non-rebuttal: MTV's music programming has steadily declined, to the point that even in music-oriented shows such as Total Request Live, music videos were usually shown only in clips, if at all.  MTV has become less music-oriented and more oriented with pop-culture in general.  As to wanting to see music on MTV... insomniacs will be happy to have the latest hip-hop videos on at 3 AM.  If that's what you meant, you're absolutely right.  If you meant something along the lines of "but they're not playing the latest Slipknot video!" I must remind you that MTV only plays popular music because it draws (even when they used to play metal and grunge it was only because it was popular).  Try MTV2, or MTVX (?), as the former especially still plays videos (but for how much longer? from what I've heard they've already killed their initial free-form format for more and more re-runs of MTV's crappy boring original series that have nothing to do with music and "blocks" of certain music videos organized by genre, artist, etc.).  Also, even though this isn't the music forum, if you like Slipknot you have serious problems.

 

Statement: The demand on potential critics to "have to have seen" certain movies deemed (by whom?!) as "classics" for their opinions to have any merit is absurd.  And I'm not just saying that because of all the CIHNS out there...

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Guest The Man in Blak

Rebuttal:  Not necessarily.  Someone could mistakenly call a movie "original" while being totally ignorant of its predecessors.  

 

Statement:  Outside of his Vietnam trilogy, Oliver Stone is utterly worthless as a filmmaker and could be considered the Vince Russo of the art.

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Guest J*ingus

Rebuttal: I didn't even like Platoon.  I also saw JFK and Natural Born Killers, disliked the former and thoroughly loathed the latter, and decided to never watch another Stone movie ever again.  

 

Rebuttal to Kingpk's statement: since I don't get HBO, I've never seen what all the fuss is about their series, but in general I agree with you, if for no other reason than because MST3K is a cable show.  

 

Statement: Halloween II sucked, and hard.  It was as bland, boring, and Friday the 13th-ish as the first movie was interesting and original.  Even the Curtis-less part IV was better.

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Guest Ravenbomb

Rebuttal: If I've said it once, I've said it 88 times, Halloween should've stayed without sequils. 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, whatever, all should've remainded unmade.

 

Statement: Dante's Inferno is one of (If not the) greatest book/poem ever written

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REBUTTAL: Agreed, but I have read better. Very good, but there's better. Of course, that's just based on opinion...

 

STATEMENT: HP Lovecraft is better at writing short stories than his mentor, Edgar Allen Poe, was at writing novels.

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