Wwe titles

[Guest Risk]

How many titles do YOU think the WWE should have?  Which titles do YOU think they should have?  What do YOU think the titles should be called?

 

My choices are:

 

Undisputed Championship

Television Championship

Tag Team Championship

 

I think they should all float between shows, too.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

HW Champ (floats between shows)

IC Champ

Tag Champ (floats between shows)

Cruiser Champ

[Guest papacita]

Raw: WWF Title (the post WM 14 belt)

I-C Title

Hardcore Title

Women's Title

 

Smackdown: International (WCW) Title

US Title

TV (Euro) Title

Cruiserweight Title

 

Tag Titles and KOTR float between groups...and while I'm at it...

 

PPV's:

 

Raw: Rumble

No Way Out

Wrestlemania

Judgment Day

KOTR

SummerSlam

No Mercy

Armageddon

 

Smackdown: Rumble

Wrestlemania

Backlash

KOTR

SummerSlam

Unforgiven

Survivor Series

[Guest]

Not to be a nitpicker, Paps, but you forgot Fully Loaded/Invasion/Whatever the July PPV is called these days.

[Guest Risk]

Can we not use the name IC (Intercontinental) title in this thread?  The name is so damn stupid.  World means the entire planet and so does Intercontinental!  IT'S A DAMN CONTRADITION!  This concludes my rant.

[Guest]

I agree with resurrecting some WCW titles for SmackDown! it would give some wrestlers direction and make RAW and SmackDown! seem like separate entities.

 

RAW:

WWF Championship

IC title

European Championship

Women's title

 

SmackDown!:

WCW Title

U.S. Title

TV Title

Cruiserweight Championship

 

P.S. I think you meant that "IC" and "World" is a *redundancy*, not a contradiction.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Can we not use the name IC (Intercontinental) title in this thread?  The name is so damn stupid.  World means the entire planet and so does Intercontinental!  IT'S A DAMN CONTRADITION!  This concludes my rant.

Well, if you want to get technical, the World Title has greater scope than the Intercontinental Title.  What if you're wrestling in Puerto Rico?  That's not a continent.  Iceland?  Easter Island?  Hawaii?  A boat in the middle of the ocean?  In all these cases, the World Title would take precedence over Intercontinental, since you wouldn't be on any continent.

[Guest converge241]

Undisputed World

World tag

World womens

American (to replace IC on smackdown)

US (for Raw, replaces euro)

Television (defended every tv show that has first run matches)

[Guest Anglesault]

We really need the WCW titles back? And we need a US AND American title?

[Guest]

Short, yet simple. No new titles necessarily, simply some old WCW ones coming back into play.

 

First, I hate the term "Undisputed" Belt. Nevertheless, it shall remain so, but the belt will be split up again, as it looked way cooler with 2 belts being carried to the ring....looked more important.

 

Second, Junior Heavyweight is a cool term. Hence, Cruiserweight will be Jr. Heavweight.

 

Third, the Tag belts will be Tag/Stables belts, being defended by any two members of a stable/group/faction.

 

Hardcore belt is gone....

 

Instead, I'd simply implement new rules/a new stip stating that either of these "lower" titles may be defended in any way, including hardcore rules for certain matches should the holder desire. It shall be this way for, say, the European, which will be the so-called "stip belt".

 

Meanwhile, the TV Belt goes back to the old WCW format of it being defended every week.

 

Likewise, as I'm running the show, the US Belt will be a "Time Limit Minimum" Belt, this will be an "Ironman Belt" of sorts. No cheap and quick wins here. Say...5 minutes min. on the regular show, 15 minutes min. at PPVs.

 

And the IC belt... During the IC holders' reign, he/she will get a single 1-on-1 match to the World Heavyweight, keeping with what the tradition is "supposed" to be, in the sense that the IC holder is the #1 Contender. However, should they pass up on their World opportunity during their reign, they will still get a return match for the IC. If they're screwed during thieir World shot, the match isn't forgotten, as the screwee will get a second, free shot.

 

I know some of it seems majorly flawled. But they're only ideas from the top of my head.

 

Floating Titles:

- Undisputed Title (split up in two)

- Jr. Heavyweight (formerly Cruiserweight. Still under same rules of 225-230 and lower)

- Tag (May be defended by any two members of a group)

- Womens

 

RAW Titles:

- IC (Holder will get a designated title shot at least once during a reign)

- European ("Stipulation" Belt)

 

Smackdown Titles:

- US ("Ironman" Belt. A minimum time limit for each match)

- TV Title (Defended every week)

[Guest]

RAW:

-Intercontinental (MWA HA HA HA!)

-Hardcore

 

Smackdown:

-Cruiserweight

-Television (Get RID of the Euro Title)

 

Universal:

-World Tag Team

-World Heavyweight

 

No Women's title. That division is worthless, especially when even remotely compared to Japanese Women's Puroresu. Actually, no, comparing them would be an insult to the Japanese product. No matter how much people want to say that Trish is "improving" ( on what scale, I have no idea! ) she's still one of the sloppiest female wrestlers I've ever seen in the ring. ;p

[Guest Anglesault]

Short, yet simple. No new titles necessarily, simply some old WCW ones coming back into play.

 

First, I hate the term "Undisputed" Belt. Nevertheless, it shall remain so, but the belt will be split up again, as it looked way cooler with 2 belts being carried to the ring....looked more important.

 

Second, Junior Heavyweight is a cool term. Hence, Cruiserweight will be Jr. Heavweight.

 

Third, the Tag belts will be Tag/Stables belts, being defended by any two members of a stable/group/faction.

 

Hardcore belt is gone....

 

Instead, I'd simply implement new rules/a new stip stating that either of these "lower" titles may be defended in any way, including hardcore rules for certain matches should the holder desire. It shall be this way for, say, the European, which will be the so-called "stip belt".

 

Meanwhile, the TV Belt goes back to the old WCW format of it being defended every week.

 

Likewise, as I'm running the show, the US Belt will be a "Time Limit Minimum" Belt, this will be an "Ironman Belt" of sorts. No cheap and quick wins here. Say...5 minutes min. on the regular show, 15 minutes min. at PPVs.

 

And the IC belt... During the IC holders' reign, he/she will get a single 1-on-1 match to the World Heavyweight, keeping with what the tradition is "supposed" to be, in the sense that the IC holder is the #1 Contender. However, should they pass up on their World opportunity during their reign, they will still get a return match for the IC. If they're screwed during thieir World shot, the match isn't forgotten, as the screwee will get a second, free shot.

 

I know some of it seems majorly flawled. But they're only ideas from the top of my head.

 

Floating Titles:

- Undisputed Title (split up in two)

- Jr. Heavyweight (formerly Cruiserweight. Still under same rules of 225-230 and lower)

- Tag (May be defended by any two members of a group)

- Womens

 

RAW Titles:

- IC (Holder will get a designated title shot at least once during a reign)

- European ("Stipulation" Belt)

 

Smackdown Titles:

- US ("Ironman" Belt. A minimum time limit for each match)

- TV Title (Defended every week)

OK, you have Jr. Heavyweight title, which is just about the least prestigious name I have ever heard in my life, bringing back WCW titles that no one has cared about in well over a year. (I still maintain that the US belt almost destroyed Angle) and The return of the Triad-esque defenses. Okay. And why exactly would a WWF wrestler want to be known as the WCW Television champ?

[Guest Anglesault]

No matter how much people want to say that Trish is "improving" ( on what scale, I have no idea! ) she's still one of the sloppiest female wrestlers I've ever seen in the ring. ;p

::shows Mach Lita match::

[Guest converge241]

We really need the WCW titles back? And we need a US AND American title?

 

well each show needs their own so its either that or

American and National

or the Raw title and the Smackdown title

[Guest papacita]

Not to be a nitpicker, Paps, but you forgot Fully Loaded/Invasion/Whatever the July PPV is called these days.

 

Actually I think it's no need for that PPV. I think 3 PPV's in the summer somewhat cheapens the importance of the SummerSlam PPV. Same with No Way Out, too. The last few years they've been trying to build that as a major PPV it seems, and all it does is make Wrestlemania seem less important. If possible, I'd like to limit PPV's to every other month for both brands.

 

And why exactly would a WWF wrestler want to be known as the WCW Television champ?

 

What wrestler would want to be known as the WWF European Champ? My whole thing with the TV Title is that Smackdown needs an important secondary title on the show, but it seems to me that the damage done to the belt over the last few years would make it hard for fans take the belt seriously. I'm not exactly sure if I'd use the name TV title, but I'd definitely rename the belt for no other reason other than to generate some intrigue with the fans. Hell, maybe they could call it the Entertainment Title just to piss people off.

 

US Title...I don't know about anybody else, but I really just threw that in my post just to keep the number of titles equal...and because the WWF doesn't seem to like the term "North American Title". Smackdown really needs a title like the US Title on it's show, because it would give guys like Angle and Edge a good reason to feud instead of having them fight over a damn t-shirt. The US Champ would get an automatic shot at the International Title, and I'd use the belt to transition upper midcard guys that they're serious about pushing to the main event. I mean, say Edge gets the belt, and you've got a bunch of guys...say HHH, Jericho, Angle, and the Rock all fighting to get a shot at Hogan's title. They'd look at the automatic World Title clause for the US Title and then go after Edge (or whoever), who would continually retain the belt against the main event guys (maybe by crook, since I can't honestly say I'd put Edge over Jericho or Rock right now) and build enough momentum/fan support til the point where he could believable face the Champ.

[Guest Will Scarlet]

What I would do:

Raw

Intercontinental or International

Trade Ivory to Raw, and give them the Women's title.

 

Smackdown

North American

Cruiserweight

 

Both

Unified

A tv title of sorts that is only defended on tv shows and not PPV.  Basically to get those not in the title hunt on the shows something to go after.  Perhaps, they could give it a more "Attitude" sounding name. Though I cannot think up one.  To borrow King of Old School's idea they could have it defended under differing stipulation matches or something.  It could lead to such things as the champion or challenger being, say, a primarily Hardcore wrestler who has to have a match under "scientific" rules or something.  It might work for a little while anyway.

Tag Team - even though it is pretty useless at this point.

[Guest]

::shows Mach Lita match::

LOL, so true! ;p

[Guest El Satanico]

Floating Titles:

 

Unified Title

 

Unified is a much better description of this belt then Undisputed is.

 

Tag Titles

 

They desperately need to rebuild the division but i believe they need to keep the division around.

 

 

Raw:

 

Intercontinental Championship

This name should remain just for the sake of tradition.

 

No Holds Barred Championship

Ok i fully admit that's a terrible name but i couldn't think of anything else at the moment. Basically this title would be like ECW was. All the matches are no dq so everything is allowed but not every match will involve being "hardcore" or using "illegal" tactics.

 

 

 

Smackdown:

 

United States Championship

No WCW reference implied but it's a decent name and they already own the name so no reason to not use it. But since they have the WCW footage they could bring up it's history if they wanted to.

 

Junior Heavyweight Title

I also like the sound of the title and it works just fine in Japan so there's no reason that it can't work here. But i wouldn't make it a title for "only cruisers". It would feature a good amount of cruiser matches but the division is open to anyone except for the big and slow guys(anyone like Undertaker and Big Show).

[Guest evenflowDDT]

You don't really need any extra belts (although changing the Euro champ to a TV Champion that would only defend on free TV and not PPV would be nice, though not necessarily every week).  Just make the European title a serious belt (easier said than done, I know), and get rid of the tag titles (yes, I'm serious; there are no serious tag teams anymore except for Billy & Chuck and the Hardyz... everything else is six-man feud filler matches with a bunch of heels against a bunch of faces with no reason or rhyme).  Put the Hardcore belt on Metal, the Cruiserweight belt on HeAT, the IC (Intercontinental is nothing compared to INTERNATIONAL WORLD CHAMPION anyway!) belt on RAW, and the Euro/TV belt on Smackdown! with the women's and world champion of course travelling between shows.  This way, shows can also be more tailored by match/champion type for a specific audience, and each show would have at least one "big" name so people would watch the "lesser" shows more often.

[Guest chirs3]

Maybe this is just stupid, or maybe it's a good idea that would become a joke (aka the Hardcore title)...

 

... but how about, totally ripping off some e-feds, a third tier-title, just below IC, which is named by the wrestler currently holding it, as are the stips under which it's defended.

 

Meaning if Lance Storm held it, he could change its name to "The Canadian Championship" and say it's defended only in "Random Stip" matches.

 

Anyone else like to see that maybe?

[Guest Cataclysm911]

This is what I wrote my first column about, titles & ppv's.

 

If you haven't read it already, you can read it here:

 

http://thesmartmarks.com/artman/publish/article_41.shtml

[Guest netslob]

ok, here's what i would do.

 

combine the the Euro, Hardcore and Cruiserweight into a Triple Threat championship, defended in only 3-way matches.  the belts would be in this order of importance:

 

Undisputed World title (makes it sound even MORE important)

World Tag Team Titles

Intercontinental Title

Triple Threat title

and

Women's title (since their gonna keep it anyway)

 

and i'd have ALL these belts be floating titles.  basically, if you have one of these titles, you can move and feud freely with anyone from either brand. in the case of the Triple Threat title, you can even have the champion defend against two opponents, one from each brand, on a PPV.

[Guest]

Can we not use the name IC (Intercontinental) title in this thread?  The name is so damn stupid.  World means the entire planet and so does Intercontinental!  IT'S A DAMN CONTRADITION!  This concludes my rant.

Intercontinental means North American. Inter-Continent. The person holding the Title is considered North America's Champion, while the person holding the WORLD title speaks for itself.

[Guest DrEvil]

Raw

WWE Intercontinental Champion - too much history to scrap it, defended weekly except for the occasional tag match.  Held for many months to bring some prestige back to it.

 

WWE Hardcore Champion - occasionally good filler matches, so you need a champion.  Keep the 24/7 rule, but only use it under special cheap win circumstances, no 10 title changes/minute.

 

 

Smackdown

WWE European Champion - the smackdown intercontinental title

 

WWE Cruiserweight Champion - because I believe that one day they'll see the excitement of this division

 

Exclusive to Champion's show

 

World Heavyweight Champion

WWE World Tag Team Champions

WWE Woman's Champion

 

My idea here is to keep the champion on the show that owns their rights.  This way they can focus on one fued without having the crossover problem (HHH/Undertaker).  They will fight the blow off match at a PPV while theres another match to determine the number one contender for the next PPV.  The good and the bad of this is that there would be no interaction when the champions and the #1 contenders are on opposite shows.  Good because they don't give away matches on free tv that they expect you to pay $40 for.  Bad because the competitors don't get a good hate on for each other.  But that could work in the favour as it would make the PPV match a fight for the belt, not a fight over someones dog.

[Guest Ace309]

Quoth Fearhavoc:

Intercontinental means North American. Inter-Continent. The person holding the Title is considered North America's Champion, while the person holding the WORLD title speaks for itself.

 

That'd be IntRAcontinental. IntERcontinental means between or among the continents, however many may be involved.

[Guest Risk]

Quoth Fearhavoc:

Intercontinental means North American. Inter-Continent. The person holding the Title is considered North America's Champion, while the person holding the WORLD title speaks for itself.

 

That'd be IntRAcontinental. IntERcontinental means between or among the continents, however many may be involved.

Thanks, Ace.

[Guest]

Quoth Fearhavoc:

Intercontinental means North American. Inter-Continent. The person holding the Title is considered North America's Champion, while the person holding the WORLD title speaks for itself.

 

That'd be IntRAcontinental. IntERcontinental means between or among the continents, however many may be involved.

Thanks, Ace.

Shit! You're right. My apologies.

 

Maybe, it was meant for North America and Canada then? Canada was the only other country the WWWF/WWF went to back then. I think?

[Guest Risk]

Maybe they should call it the Can-Am title, heh.

[Guest]

What been a running complaint by me is the Title names

 

you got the World title

thats self explainator

 

in the WCW and NWA they had the US title... Representing obviously the United States

 

WWF has the IC belt  which from what Im assuming represents the American Continent  and of course

the WWF European Title...

 

Why not a Asian title???

 

You can't base the arguement that because there aren't any Asian/ Japanese wrestlers...

I mean how many Europeans in the WWF?

William Regal?

WWF had Taka,  Has Funaki and Tajiri..

 

Who knows a Asian title could spark interests in joint ventures with NJPW or other Promotions.

 

so if you gonna have these large territoral Titles

Intercontinental

US

European

What about the rest of the globe and put in

Asian title?

[Guest Risk]

IMO, these two options are the best for the WWFE(I'm not calling them WWE).

 

Option #1

 

Heavyweight title

Light Heavyweight/Cruiserweight/Junior Heavyweight(whatever you wanna call it)title

Tag Team titles

 

Option #2

 

Undisputed title

Entertainment title

Tag Team titles