Guest Report post Posted May 13, 2002 HOGAN'S TITLE RUN, by Dave Scherer Updated: 5/13/2002 2:50:02 PM The way it stands right now, I expect Hulk Hogan's title run to end at Judgment Day. That is not confirmed by anyone, but talking to people in WWE, all signs point to them getting the title off of Hogan this week. Now, I don't know how much better putting it on the Undertaker is, but if they do it, and he doesn't hold it long, at least it's a step in the right direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 13, 2002 Are two one-month title reigns really a step in the right direction? Is Taker the right guy to put over Hogan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted May 13, 2002 No, but that hasn't ever stopped Vince from moving the title to someone before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted May 13, 2002 At this rate, by SummerSlam, Spike Dudley will be the WWEUndisputed Champion... twice. And Angle will still be fighting Edge, to the chagrin of Angle marks everywhere... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted May 13, 2002 At this rate, by SummerSlam, Spike Dudley will be the WWEUndisputed Champion... twice. And Angle will still be fighting Edge, to the chagrin of Angle marks everywhere... LOL! You forgot, James... It's "PSYCHOTIC" Angle marks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted May 13, 2002 It's not a bad idea for Hogan to drop the title. The Undertaker always is involved in pretty interesting and entertaining feuds so if the title is on him I would be happy. Hogan is looking pretty banged up and his title reign was good for a month but it's time to get the title off him and onto someone like Taker who can hold it until he is ready to retire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted May 13, 2002 Are two one-month title reigns really a step in the right direction? Is Taker the right guy to put over Hogan? no, no.. it would be better to build up an Austin - Hogan match at KOTR to get a buyrate if they want to get everything they can out of Hogan before they put him out to pasture. Even better would be to CLEANLY drop it to someone who has never had a world title before, AND put it over as a big deal.. if they do go with Taker, as much as i hate to say it, they NEED to keep the title on him for a long time and have various faces chase him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 13, 2002 I agree that 2 one month title reigns are a garbage idea. And how long do you think Taker will hold it for? This does piss me off a little...to be quite honest... HHH didn't deserve it...Hogan didnt deserve it (not that he wasn't over...just that hes old and bad)...Taker doesn't deserve it (expecially not to be the guy put over Hogan). Those 3 were at the bottom of my list of people who should win the belt (only taking into account those who realistically had the chance too someday soon...IE: no spike dudley) I am becoming more and more disenfranchised with this WWE product. Its getting to the point that I don't want to watch anymore...(don't pull out the "yes you will, smarks always watch line yet and let me explain) It's not that I don't still like wrestling...but it is getting to the point where...quite frankly...there are better things to watch on at the same time. I've already started flipping channels during the show (which I only used to do during unooposed Nitros) How stale is this product? despite how low ratings were in the infamous mid 90's WWE...I still enjoyed the show. I'm not enjoying much of anything at this point. In my 17 years of watching the WWE...I can't remember the company being in much worse shape than this...product wise. Ratings may not reflect that...but if the product remains crap...they sure as hell will soon enough. Give us something new. I don't want the nWo...I don't want Bradshaw and Austin teaming up... I want you to fire half the roster and start over. Quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted May 13, 2002 I like Taker now, so I could live with him as champ, but I cannot see how this will help ratings. A month ago, Taker wasn't over enough to main event Backlash, and now they are giving him the Undisputed Title? Expect the belt to be back on HHH by KOTR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted May 13, 2002 Ok if UT wins it that'll make 4 champions in it's 5 month history. Wow.......that's awful. It should be 1 or 2 champions not 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 13, 2002 What really pisses me off is, you see or read about the these wrestlers like Edge, Angle, Jericho, etc, in interviews saying "Wrestling is different today from years ago. Wrestlers get over and get pushed by how hard they work today." Um, Triple H, Hogan and Now (maybe) Taker as World Champion? What the Hell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 13, 2002 Yesterday my friend and I were talking wrestling as always when it both hit us like a ton of bricks......Hulk Hogan is the WWF Champion! It hadn't really sunk in that he was the freakin' CHAMP until yesterday. That just goes to show you what the WWF has done to its top belt the past few months, the fact that Hogan of all people could become champ and the wrestling world barley makes a peep is bad news. Remember when Foley won his first championship or when Angle finally got it from Austin? Those title wins were big and actually meant something because of the storyline magnitude and personnel value for the superstars involved. Hogan's win lacks both of those qualities because of the writer's poor storyline given to his win (the feud with HHH was built around the two accidently bumping into one another). I can see the match on Sunday going either way because both men will end up being transitional champions as it is. What the writers are transitioning to is anyone's guess as the WWF title picture is freakishly bleak. Which is too bad considering I thought the pre-Backlash storylines about number 1 contendership helped make the title seem important again. Now is the best time for the WWF to try something radically different in the title scene ( a la Benoit vs. Rock from 2 years ago.) With Austin feuding with Flair and Big Show, Rock busy with movie stuff, HHH in a program with Jericho, and Angle feuding with Edge, the WWF should try something off the wall like Taker vs. RVD. They can allow RVD a chance to main event (although he should job semi cleanly) while killing time in between a real feud for Taker. This would be fresh from a storyline perspective and it can push RVD further than any IC title reign ever could. Even if RVD jobbed cleanly, he'd still come out of the fued stronger than going into it as the fans will have enjoyed rallying behind his run at the belt. Just some strewn together thoughts, as I feel the WWF title picture hasn't been worthwhile since Austin was feuding with Angle during the Invasion. Mostly because that was fresh and the matches were rewarding. But months of Jericho looking like a fool, HHH feuding with Stephanie, and Hogan getting a ho-hum victory has made the belt, and the current product pretty lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted May 13, 2002 Undertaker still has it in him from what I have been able to see. He freshened up just a bit with the heel turn and new hair. His promos are better and he's not so mediocre. He really has been trying as seen in matches with RVD, Flair and others. Hogan is going to axe that. Taker can work a good match if he has someone upbeat or just someone good. (Yeah Austin was an exception but that match was booked horribly) Taker sucks when working with the likes of Kane, Show, Test, Dudleyz and others he has worked with a lot in the past. WWE kind of got him away from that and hid his weaknesses while bringing out his strong points. Hogan will totally crush that and any tolerance we havd of the Dead Man may be shattered. Rock made Hogan look decent. Jericho did as well. HHH tried. The better you make Hogan look the better it looks on you. I don't think Taker can do that. Add to the fact that the nWo is still VERY high profile and we may see THEM in the mix with him, his title reign will tank. I hate that for Mark, but Hogan is going to drag him down right there with him. It's kind of sad. Lose/Lose if you ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted May 13, 2002 The Undisputed title is worthless. It has already changed hands too much. Jericho should still be the champ, or a heel turned Triple-H. Fuck this bullshit with Hogan and Undertaker... they had the same main event 11 years ago, and it sucked cock then too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted May 13, 2002 No, Taker deserves the title! Takers the KING HOSS~! and he's an INTENSE~! Locker room leader with a HAIR CUT~! and he's really been stepping up his game lately because he's got SOUP BONES~! and he's BOOGER RED~! But seriously, Austin should have gotten the title shot so he could do the Jake Roberts match from KOTR 96 on Hogan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 13, 2002 I doubt they would put the title on Austin this quickly...despite how overplayed it seems, the concept of Flair vs. Austin will draw because Flair's a much stronger character than McMahon and Austin, well he's Austin. They need to put the title on a SmackDown person, a heel, because the sides are really uneven (I mean, how do you balance a side with Austin without the Rock). Angle is my choice, Jericho is my number two and fall-out (though I think Jericho would benefit much more from a Hogan job and the title again). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted May 13, 2002 I don't think the Undertaker should get the title. At least Hogan can generate heat and merchandise revenue. The 'Taker can't do either of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mastermind Report post Posted May 14, 2002 The Undisputed World Wrestling Entertainment Champion. I'm sorry the title has gone to the crapper. Just the name alone sounds corny. Does it sound prestigious to wear an entertainment belt or a Federation belt? My point exactly. Someone said it perfectly the title is worthless. Forget Hogan, forget Trips, forget Jericho. The title was deemed unimportant compared to the championship in 2000 or 1998 when the wwf failed miserably to promote how big an event it was to unify the titles. As some have said Hogan has regained the title and the response SHOULD be bigger in terms of the media. This has nothing to really do with his age, but how Hogan was trounced from the title scene in the first place. I remember the National Enquirer reporting about what Russo did to Hogan. How many people actually know that Hogan was the true wcw champ who had legit beef to throw back the claim the title ISN'T undisputed? The wwf screwed THAT up. Hogan's first wwf title match since 1993 and look how they build it up. It was basically one smackdown with an "accidental" bump. What crap. Now as for Triple H. I can't believe he allowed himself to be booked so garbage. A title defense against Stephanie? Come on! Jericho was doomed with his booking the night after he won the title in that cage match with Austin on RAW. The titles have been crap since Invasion plain and simple. The watered down wcw title victories by Angle, Rock, Jericho, and Booker T. The wwf didn't build that portion of the undisputed title. Onto to Sunday. UT regaining the title! HELL NO!!!!!!!!! The title should stay on Hogan to have Austin/Hogan at KOR. That will help at least give the damn title some kind of importance historic wise. JR always sells both men at the top two wwf champs of all-time respectively. Give Taker the title and then what? Another hot storyline with a crappy match. He was lucky with Flair at WrestleMania. Hogan 6 time wwf champ vs. Austin 6 time wwf champ for the UNDISPUTED title gives some kind of worth to the title. Hogan has good history for the wcw portion of the belt which the wwf never plays up. Play up the wwf and wcw history of the belt and proclaim the current title the unification of the old with the winner being the champ of the new lineage. Last, but not least. CHANGE THE DAMN WWE crappy name PLEASE. It sounds corny as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 14, 2002 HHH will win at KOTR because he can't bear Austin, Rock and Hogan being six time champions and not him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted May 14, 2002 Huh? Hogan is the champ and he's defending his title on Sunday? Against Undertaker? Dude, no way... Seriously, ever since the split, like, none of the belts matter... Jericho will always be undisputed champ in my mind, why? Because he made the belt seem important by constantly shoving it down people's throats that he was the champ as part of his character. Hogan (who I don't believe has even acknowledged that he's the undisputed champ once since winning it, though I wouldn't know, I've been flipping the channels whenever the Orange Goblin shows up) will be milked in the main event scene and will draw with or without the belt, so to paraphrase a wrestler who proved that at Wrestlemania, "It doesn't matter if Hogan loses the belt or not!" Austin v. McMahon III (Flair? who?) will be played out, and after that if Hogan is still around they can still have their "dream match" (given how Austin's really sucked ever since his feud with Angle last summer, who in their right mind is still dreaming of this?!), of Austin vs. Hogan title or not. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Taker win on Sunday because he hasn't really been meaningful since the Ministry of Darkness, and maybe they could do something with him now if he has the belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 14, 2002 This whole situation makes me want to cry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 14, 2002 Man...after that Raw, i don't think i can go on WATCHING THIS BULLSHIT! ARGH, wrestling SUCKS so much right now, and only ONE SMALL MEANINGLESS SEGMENT WITH THE UNDERTAKER!!! I *NEED* either Taker or Kane to get my wrestling mark-out, and I DIDNT GET EITHER! Okay..better talk about the subject eh? Taker as champ would certainly make me very happy, plus i TRULY HONESTLY BY GOD I SWEAR i believe that Taker has up'ed his workrate. He realises the situation he is in and i can see Taker PUSHING himself to get the best outta his matches. His last match was with RVD on RAW, which im pissed about because Taker SHOULD BE WRESTLING MORE, that RVD Match is proof, brotha! ( and no 'But RVD Carried that match, Taker Mark' replies! ) Plus Hogan SUCKS, you saw the moron in there with Ric Flair on Raw, it was bloody terrible...Taker had a GREAT match with Flair at Wrestlemania, Hogan really blew it, again... So...Taker, HERE'S TO YA BROTHER! This has been the Taker Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 14, 2002 I say hogan goes over at judgment Day. And then jobs to the winner of Jericho/HHH at the following smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted May 14, 2002 I hope HHH and/or Y2J at least miss one week of TV due to "injuries" suffered during HIAC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted May 14, 2002 Not only will we have another title reign but we'll have another awful title match. Then we'll have another Champ that no one wants to see wrestle. At least Undertaker has potential, but they need to avoid a HHH - Undertaker match. I think right now Undertaker would work better with smaller guys he could use power moves on like RVD or Edge. Get some fresh faces in the main event and have Undertaker wrestle like a monster. People they should not have him wrestle: Hogan, HHH, Austin. Unless someone like RVD is moved up though then options are limited. We've seen Undertaker and Austin too many times. In my mind there last match was one of the worst of the year. Flair as ref didn't help much, but it still was terrible. I'm dreading Hogan and Taker this Sunday so lets hope there is no rematch. Also, considering that match will probably follow HIAC the crowd will most likely be dead. HHH and Undertaker don't have a history of burning it up, I hope we're not subjected to this. How long until Benoit comes back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 15, 2002 I've-Got-An-Idea-For-The-WWE-Bookers, Why-don't-we-give-the-Undisputed-Championship-to-"Wacko"-Steven-Richards.That's-a-HUGE-step-in-the-right-direction! Am-I-right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted May 15, 2002 I agree that the main event scene is extremely limited right now, but that's not going to be fixed whether Hogan retains or not. Think logically... who else could Hogan face? Triple H in a rematch? Austin? Do you really want to see Austin vs. Hogan? I want to see Undertaker win the title, because I haven't been watching long enough to see Undertaker vs. all the present main-eventers enough times to be sick of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted May 15, 2002 I want to see Undertaker win the title, because I haven't been watching long enough to see Undertaker vs. all the present main-eventers enough times to be sick of it. Consider yourself lucky... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 15, 2002 Here's an idea... they've been planting the seeds for a Hogan/Angle feud for a while now. If I were booking it, I would have Hogan retain and go on to feud with Angle, dropping the title to him and having Angle hold the title until he leaves the WWE to train for the Olympics... Dropping the title to Taker is a terrible idea. Taker hasn't drawn in over a year. It's kind of a no win situation. You keep the title on Hogan... and the ratings drop. You give it to Taker and the situation isn't going to get any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 15, 2002 I have Hogan beat Taker at JD, beat Angle at Vengeance and lose to Austin at Summerslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
