Guest Arnold_OldSchool Report post Posted March 19, 2005 (I hope we can get better discussion out of this thread than the usual Blah Blah conspiracy BS putdowns. History is written by the winners and if the Bush administration has proven anything, its that the Government lies, and says the right things publicly, in a veiled attempt to avoid being exposed.) The Assassination Of General George Patton 3-18-5 'Los Crimenes De Los Buenos' by Joaquin Bochaca Published January 1, 2001 An excerpt... (Note: The translation of the passage below from Joaquin Bochaca's book, "Los Crimenes De Los 'Buenos' " was prepared by a participant on Liberty Forum who writes under the name of "Mugwort." The Book by Bochaca, an Argentinian, appears to be a major writing. I hope it soon becomes available in english translation. The short passage below addresses the assassination of General Patton.) The abuses committed by the Forces of the Occupation in Germany reached such bestial extremes that various people in the Allied command structure opposed it--or tried to. ... Lindbergh mentioned how the American soldiers burned the leftovers of their meals to keep them from being scavenged by the [starving] Germans who hung around the garbage barrels. He also wrote: "In our homeland the public press publishes articles on how we 'liberated' the oppressed peoples. Here, our soldiers use the word 'liberate' to describe how they get their hands on loot. Everything they grab from from a German house, everything they take off a German is 'liberated' in the lingo of our troops. Leica cameras are liberated, food, works of art, clothes are liberated. A soldier who rapes a German girl is "liberating " her. "There are German children who gaze at us as we eat ... our cursed regulations forbid us to give tham anything to eat. I remember the soldier Barnes, who was arrested for having given a chocolate bar to a tattered little girl. It's hard to look these children in the face. I feel ashamed. Ashamed of myself, my people, as I eat and look at those children. How can we have gotten so inhumane?" So wrote Colonel Lindbergh, national hero of the United States, who was proposed as a candidate for the presidency of his country, who fought in the air force of his country, who was not a nazi. Many decent American and British citizens can see that. General Patton, perhaps the most popular of the American generals, immediately opposed the total or partial application of the Morgenthau Plan in his sector of occupation. Soon, he had a run-in with another general of higher rank: General Eisenhower. It's well-known what extremely violent debates they had about how the civilian population of Germany was to be treated. Patton was SENTENCED TO DEATH by the directors of the scenario. One day Patton's car was run into by a military truck in what seemed like a very strange accident. The General was taken by ambulance to a hospital, where he was observed to have serious, but not life-threatening injuries. But some days later he died of a heart attack. Patton's death, in any event, was extremely opportune. The General had annnounced that he was thinking of moving to the United States, where he was going to denounce publicly what was taking place in Germany. But he didn't have time. He had fought with too many important people. General Eisenhower had had to pick up the telephone and order that he be halted before he reached Berlin. At Yalta the new "masters of the world" had agreed that the Soviets would be the first to enter the German capital. Patton wanted to prevent the Vandal-like entrance of the Red Army into the capital of the Reich, and made an enemy of Eisenhower. A month before, he could have entered Prague, but was also detained by Eisenhower, leaving him nailed to the ground by an order. Patton's difficulties with the WAR POWERS over the occupation of Germany were so great that Eisenhower stripped him of his position as Commander of the Third Army, and stuck him with the command of a secondary unit. Patton knew he was in danger of death, and confided as much to his family and close friends. He was feared because of his prestige-he was the most renowned American General, while Eisenhower was nothing more than a political soldier-and his words could alert the public to the reality of what was happening in Germany. Thus the accident was set up, which was not by any means the first. On the 21st of April 1945, his airplane on which he was being transported to General Headquarters of the Third Army in Feldfield (England) was attacked by what was assumed to be a German fighter-bomber, but it turned out to be a "Spitfire" piloted by an inexpert Polish pilot. Patton's plane was shot up, but was miraculously able to land. On the 3rd of May, some days before the end of the war, the General's jeep was charged by an ox-drawn cart, leaving Patton with light injuries. October 13, 1945 was when the collision with the truck occurred. When Patton appeared to be getting better from the accident, the "heart attack" occurred. The fact is that after October 13 only the doctors saw Patton, forbidding any other visitors. Until recently, it was only speculation that Patton had been assassinated. Now it is known for a fact. And it is know for a very simple reason. Because an agent of the well-known OSS (Office of Strategic Services) or American military spy, a certain Douglas Bazata, a Jew of Lebanese origin, announced it in front of 450 invited guests; high ranking, ex-members of the OSS, in the Hilton Hotel in Washington, the 25th of September, 1979. Bazata said, word-for-word: "For divers political reasons, many extremely high-ranking persons hated Patton. I know who killed him. Because I am the one who was hired to do it. Ten thousand dollars. General William Donovan himself, director of the O.S.S, entrusted me with the mission. I set up the accident. Since he didn't die in the accident, he was kept in isolation in the hospital, where he was killed with an injection." The tragic fate of Patton convinced other colleagues and their honorable compatriots of the uselessness of fighting against the WAR POWERS. And if any doubts remained, the "Morgan case" was enough to dissipate them. (To be continued .) http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres4/Bochaca-Crimines.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatinumBoy Report post Posted March 19, 2005 (I hope we can get better discussion out of this thread than the usual Blah Blah conspiracy BS putdowns. History is written by the winners and if the Bush administration has proven anything, its that the Government lies, and says the right things publicly, in a veiled attempt to avoid being exposed.) Huh? So Bush is the first politican to be shady in your eyes? It comes with the teritory, and I think sometimes the whole "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE WINNERS" argument goes a bit too far--you can't totally fake everything. Also, this book was published in 1982, not 2001. Google the guy's name who wrote it and the supposed agent who killed Patton, and you find white supremacy group forums. Tons of them. Concidence it was a JEWISH agent... and all this is on these insane hate group forums? Not to mention this book and Mugwort think AMERICA was the "bad guy" in World War II and JAPAN the good guy. Here's more from the book... The refinement of the American provocations against Japan reached a virtual paroxysm. It is known that when, at the last moment, Marshall Tojo and even Admiral Yamamoto appeared to have doubts about whether to launch the attack on Pearl Harbour or not, several American ships penetrated deep within the China Sea, war-zone of the Chinese-Japanese war, and launched depth charges at Japanese submarines, on at least two occasions. Japan was basically dragged into the war. Its earlier plan of directing its attack against the USSR was derailed by Roosevelt and his men, and the attack on Pearl Harbour was launched. And, at the same time as the attack on the American naval base, a million and a half Soviet soldiers were rapidly transported from Siberia and Outer Mongolia to Russia’s European front. The double maneuver by the war-powers established in the US to put the United States into the war and prevent a second front against the USSR in Asia was crowned with success. Roosevelt then delivered himself of the following statement before Congress: “In spite of the fact that Germany and Italy have not made a formal declaration of war, we consider them to be as much at war with the United States as with England and Russia.” Further on in the speech, the president added: “Naturally we will take measures against the totalitarian powers, whom, despite the fact that they haven’t formally declared war, we consider to be at war with us.” The following day Germany and Italy, justifying themselves by the “constant violations of neutrality committed by the government of the United States”, sent declarations of war. Declarations of war which had no effect except to permit, finally, Doenitz’ submarines to respond to the attacks of the Yankee ships, which had been going on openly for six months.. * * * One last word on the subject of the Pearl Harbour trap: leaving out those men who were part of the afore-mentioned war-powers, there were only three men who, at every moment, knew everything about the conspiracy—for it was a conspiracy, nothing less—and about the contents of the Japanese messages, deciphered by “Magic”. These men were President Roosevelt, General Marshall, and Admiral Stark. We’ve already spoken enough about the personality of the first of these men. As for General Catlett Marshall, future Nobel Prize winner—for having financed the socialist governments of post-war Europe—he would later distinguish himself as ambassador to China, where he brought to fruition a task as pleasant as organizing the fiasco of Pearl Harbour: the formerly protected Chiang Kai-Chek was routed, and the Communist Mao took his place. George C. Marshall was Jewish, and was the son of Louis Marshall, who was the confidant of Theodore Roosevelt. I realize that is not a hate forum, but the people there are idiots still. Here is some of the people on the forum and their remarks... From PatrickHenry: Hi Hayseed, The Elites controlling the U.S. Gov have made Slaves of Americans (this was what Lincoln's War was all about), why would They give a Rats Ass about what happened to 30 million Chinese (or 12 million Ukrainians)? As far as; "Rape and murder is a sign of the good guys" What part of "War is Hell" don't you understand? Yours in War is State Sponsored Rape and Murder sanctioned by Law and veiled with Propaganda/Deception, P.H. P.S. Have a peek at Sun Tzu's "Art of War" (studied in every U.S. War Collage), your Opinion on the matter should become more coherent. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I love how this guy tells us about Collage. Those were fun to make in 1st Grade. Now for Mugwort... This book isn't about the Japanese; it's specifically called "The Crimes of the "Good Guys". And however heinous the crimes in Nangking were, they don't come anywhere close to the crime of launching a world war that takes 50 million lives. Moreover, most of the claims about the rape of Nangking are likely to have been war-propaganda, as the photogrphs and other evidence do not back them up. What definitely happened there was that Chinese soldiers mixed with civilians, having changed into civilian clothes, which is contrary to the rules of land warfare. In executing them there is no doubt that some innocent civilians also met their death. I'll post a piece about the alleged Rape of Nangking and flag you to it. As I believe the book Los Crimenes deals with fairly extensively, much of the horror of WWII was (deliberately) caused by the fact that illegal and destructive partisan warfare was extensively encouraged by the war-plotters and the countries in their thrall. In addition, many things of which the Japanese were accused, such as cannibalism, were not Japanese, but Chinese customs. Here we see the same phenomenon as in Europe, where Axis soldiers were accused of atrocities of the type practiced on German civilians just after the war by Czechs, Russians, and others. It is a dictum of Karl Marx that one should accuse one's enemy of the crimes one commits onesself ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just read that. Honestly. The Chinese were the ones WRONG IN WW II?!!?!?!? Fucking idiot. Look up the author of this book, you can't find much, not even on Amazon. The guy who claims to kill Patton also doesn't exist based on what I could find and is just a Jewish strawman they thought up to incite, "JEWS KILLED PATTON OMG" talk--some sites think Patton wanted to go to war aganist the Jews and keep the SS as his backup. So yeah... this is bullshit. Just because it's written and in a book doesn't make it true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2005 I believe the Patton thing now, except the parts about him having the SS. That was just made up. He was going to blow the whistle, whattaman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2005 blah blah conspiracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cosbywasmurdered Report post Posted March 19, 2005 PattonWasMurdered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2005 Patton WAS murdered. By God. That bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2005 Is this the same guy who said Hitler wanted peace? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted March 20, 2005 There Was No Need For World War II By Alex S. Perry, Jr 2-23-5 http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?...67490&hl=hitler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites