Usa basketball team

[Guest Redhawk]

Here's the team that will win -- um, I mean, compete at -- the World Championship this summer:

 

FRONTCOURT

Antonio Davis

Raef LaFrentz

Shawn Marion

Jermaine O'Neal

Paul Pierce

 

BACKCOURT

Ray Allen

Michael Finley

Jason Kidd

Andre Miller

Reggie Miller

Jason Williams (Duke University)

 

There are still three open spots. I'm wondering who thought of Raef LaFrentz. What about Ben Wallace as the other center? Other than that, I don't see why they can't just scrap the Dream Team stuff and go with college players in the international competitions. America would still win all the time, and even if they lost every now and then, it would help these future pros prepare for the League.

[Guest starvenger]

I wonder how many other Mavs are playing?  Steve Nash is almost certain to - he's Captain Canuck, after all - but what about the Nowitzkis, Wangs etc?

[Guest Redhawk]

Najera's from Mexico, right?

 

Tariq Abdul-Wahad is from France.

 

Shawn Bradley got dual citizenship with either Germany or Australia, I'd heard, so he could play in international competition.

[Guest alfdogg]

Looks like they have plenty of guards to me.  I say get one more forward and two centers.

[Guest]

I am not glad to see the most overrated player ever to come out of duke make the squad.  Doesn't anybody realize he won;t even be as good as hurley on the nba level, and thats pretty bad

 

--Rob

[Guest starvenger]

>Doesn't anybody realize he won;t even be as good as hurley on the nba level, and thats pretty bad

 

I thought that Hurley was just coming into his own, when he had that accident?

[Guest]

I don't remember that.

 

--Rob

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Why is Reggie Miller still making these teams.

[Guest starvenger]

>Why is Reggie Miller still making these teams.

 

Just in case there's a close game...

[Guest DrTom]

Look honey, it's another Dream Team.  The rest of the world should give us credit for making international basketball as much of a shitty joke as the NBA.

 

<yawn>

[Guest]

regiie Miller is still the man, did you see him shit on like 4 people in that double overtime game.  Come on.

 

--Rob

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

This team could probably mop up the court with any of the other teams, but I have the feeling that this isn't the best team that could have been assembled.

[Guest alfdogg]

Why is Reggie Miller still making these teams.

I think Rob explained it nicely.

[Guest]

Why-the-Fuck-is-Antonio-Davis-on-this-team?

Replace-him-with-Ben-Wallace(The-Fucking-defensive-player-of-the-year)

 

Remaning-spots:

 

1.Tracy-Mcgrady

2.Tim-Duncan(The-Phony-MVP)

3.Kenyon-Martin

 

And-Why-the-Fuck-is-Raef-Lafrentz-on-this-team?

[Guest Redhawk]

Most of the premier players -- Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, etc. -- were surely invited but probably turned down the offer. After playing an 82-game season, followed by the playoffs, I can see why they don't want to spend their summer playing even more. I think most guys who do accept do it for the exposure -- Andre Miller, Antonio Davis, etc. -- or they just really love to play.

[Guest alfdogg]

Most of the premier players -- Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, etc. -- were surely invited but probably turned down the offer. After playing an 82-game season, followed by the playoffs, I can see why they don't want to spend their summer playing even more. I think most guys who do accept do it for the exposure -- Andre Miller, Antonio Davis, etc. -- or they just really love to play.

Right.  Tim Duncan I think was indeed invited but turned it down.

[Guest]

I think someone questioned antonio davis's spot on the roster.  First off, he will be the leader of the team.  He consistantly goes 10 and 10 and plays his ass off 48 minutes a game.  I'll admit I wasn't a fan of his on indiana but now with the raptors he gets my full endorsement.  Now... Raef LaFrentz, I know he doesn't put up the numbers but, he is one of the most diverse players in the league like novitski.  He can stroke the 3, play inside, go 10 and 10, what more do you want?  Looking at this team again I think this will be a fun team to watch.  Andre Miller is coming along nicely and in a few years he will have jason kidd's role in the nba.  Who is the coach?  Assuming they get a running coach like adelmen or nelson this will definitly be must see tv.

 

--Rob

[Guest Redhawk]

How can you compare LaFrentz to Dirk? The only similarity they have is their height. Dirk is better in every aspect of the game, except for maybe blocking shots.

[Guest]

I was comparing the way they play, not the skill that goes along with it.  Dirk has more skill in his toe than lafrentz does but, they ar both deverse.  I think I made it clear but I guess not so I will explain again, 1. They are both tall

2.  They are both quick.

3.  They both can shoot from long range

4.  They both can drive

5. They both can rebound

 

How are they not similar?

 

--Rob

[Guest Vern Gagne]

A possible college team

 

G-Jay Williams

G-Juan Dixon

G-Steve Logan

G-Casey Jacobsen

G-Dan Dickau

F-Carlos Boozer

F-Lonny Baxter

F-Drew Gooden

F-Caron Butler

F/C-David West

F/C-Carlos Boozer

C-Chris Markus

 

players like Dunleavey, Prince, Clancey, Haslem, could easily be on the team these are just the 12 that came to my head first.

[Guest]

Why is Reggie Miller still making these teams.

I was thinking the same thing bro. Rob's reason make sense but it is still wierd seeing Miller with all these young guys.

[Guest]

A possible college team

 

G-Jay Williams

G-Juan Dixon

G-Steve Logan

G-Casey Jacobsen

G-Dan Dickau

F-Carlos Boozer

F-Lonny Baxter

F-Drew Gooden

F-Caron Butler

F/C-David West

F/C-Carlos Boozer

C-Chris Markus

 

players like Dunleavey, Prince, Clancey, Haslem, could easily be on the team these are just the 12 that came to my head first.

vern, I am just going to guess your a dukie fan cause you mentioned boozer twice,  put mr overrated as #1 and then even mentioned dunleavys name.  Let me tell you about dunleavy, he has a lot of skills, he never figured out how to put them together.  He is a jackass for going to the nba cause he is going to crash and burn hard.  I dunno bud, I just hope you don;t become the gm of usa basketball or any sport for that matter.  Why in the hell does everyone suck dukes cock?  Their players are overrated, on top of that, I saw a documentary somewhere, that they coast their players through school to get a high percentage rate to brag about.  Coack K is a good college coach, he understands how to manipulate to immature players, but when his guys go to the nba they don;t knwo how to play the real way.  This is duke in a nutshell, 1 good/great college big man in the middle, 4 perimater shooters, then just chuck em up and let the big man rebound for them.  WHY WOULD YOU LIKE THAT SHIT, ITS FUCKIN BORING.  Personally I am a St. Johns fan by nature because I grew up in queens, but I also like the way john chaney coaches and I try to check out temple as much as possible.  You know what, I am done ranting about this, it's not worth it, duke is way fuckin overrated and you will still continue jerking them off.

 

--Rob

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Bitter much?

[Guest Redhawk]

Okay, I hate Duke as much as anyone, but you can't say Dunleavy isn't a talent. I don't see why he shouldn't have gone pro. I bet Dunleavy will be better than Wally Sczerbiak is at the same point in their careers. I hate Dunleavy, but he's broken teams' backs so often that I respect him. And Jason Williams might be overrated -- Duke Vitale called him the 2nd best PG on the planet behind J. Kidd -- but he's pretty damn good.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Let's see listing Boozer twice by mistake, having Williams name first because he's the first guard I thought of, and Dunleavey because I heard is name on the radio. Makes me a Duke fan? These are 3 well known players. Nothing more nothing less.

[Guest franchise632]

So is Rob a Carolina fan or something, it must be something of that nature to hate Dukies like that. To say the JAY Williams, and yes we are to be callling him Jay so as to not confuse him with the EX NET headed for the booty house or the Grizz white chocolate PG, will not even be as good as Bobby Hurley is just plain iggnorant. He may never be a 1st team all NBA or one of the greatest players of all time but he has all of the tools to be a great player, he isnt afraid to take a big shot and enjoys getting his teammates involved. Now I understand all the hating on Duke because i hate the Yankees for the same reason, THEY ARE JUST THAT GOOD. People tend to hate on those teams that are continually sucessful especially if that team repeatidly beats on a favorite team (i.e. Braves for me)and develops the ability to get great players. Dick Vitale takes a ton of shit from people that have there heads up there ass because he doesnt talk about there team, because quite frankly most of peoples teams arent deserving of his hype. Coach Vitale has earned the right to speak his mind about who he thinks the best is, that is what he is paid to do and its something he is good at and passionite about. He would be the first to say the if a Duke squad wasnt as good as another team and has no problems discussing other great teams.

 

In regard to Mike Dunleavy i have had the fortune of living near the city where he played high school baseketball and have been able to watch him grow and develop, he is going to be a great player and may be one of the best players to come out of Duke ever. You need to look no further then his basketball pedegree. His dad was a great player and even better coach, who got shit on by a bunch of whinning bitches here in Ptown. He may not be done growing physically and has gotten nothing but stronger and better. He will be good.

 

Now back to Rob for a second, apparently that isnt the style of basketball that you like to watch, and thats fine and your opinion, but when was the last time that St. Johns or Temple won anything?? Sure John Chaney develops great defensive game plans and can get a team to play a zone defense like no one else but he hasnt been to a final four with that. I respect Coach Chaney and what he has done but I dont enjoy a game that ends 48 to 44. I am a fan of run and gun and shoot and play full court defense, and Im guessing a majority of fans feel the same way, wether it be Duke or Maryland or whatever the case may be. Coach K is probably the greatest college coach ever or will be. The reason not all of his players go on to great NBA success has more to do with the type of game they play that is much more team oreiented, in that manner he falls into the same line as Arizona coach Lute Olsen, he has great college teams but when they get broken down and go to the next level its a different style . As far a coasting players through college, that is something i would highly doubt, Duke is on the same level as a Stanford type school, just shy of Ivy league. You dont just coast players thru class, and i dont think Jay Williams coasted thru four years worth of classes in three years. So that hold no water, maybe that documentary was on right after Jerry Springer or something. Anyway, Im done now. I gotta get of the speed balls or something.

 

LATE

[Guest]

no seriously man, hey were speaking about how bob huggins has 0% graduation rate at cincy, but duke has 100%.  They take coaster classes, I saw it on behind the lines or whatever that show is with bob ley.  Fuck duke, just because my teams don;t win consistantly does not make me want to like them less, thats some bandwagon bullshit.  Duke is overrated like a motherfucker, coack k is not that great.  Also a reason why my teams don;t compete every year is recruiting, everyone wants to go to duke because they have been hyped up like no one else, its almost like a monoploy the way it happened.  Besides elton brand who doesn;t even count name duke players that went to the nba and becamse consistant all-stars.  None, hill doesn;t count cause he is injusred every other year, think about that.  Please stop sucking coach K's cock, PLEASE

 

--Rob

[Guest franchise632]

Hey Rob if you would have read what I wrote as opposed to telling me to stop preforming oral sex on another guy, which you seem to be infatuated with, you would have seen that I put Duke players in with players from schools like Arizona where they are great players in the college system but that doesnt always equate to great NBA players, because of the much more team oreiented style of play in NCAA and a difference in competion at the next level. These players tend to not be great NBA players because they have devolped team skills which arent has highly looked upon in the NBA because of so much isolation play.

 

In regard to the graduation rate has more to do with the fact that prior to Elton Brand and in subsequent years players like Corey Maggette, William Avery, and now Dunlevey. Players did not leave Duke early, you just didn't do it. Huggs lets his players go if thats what they want and they feel they are ready and he also doesnt bring in players that are known for their character as much as there basketball skill. That is the major difference, also because of bogus NCAA rules like not being able to count players that come from JC's or players that transfer to other schools, both of those count against a school negitivly. Until Chris Duhon, Coach K had not allowed a player to transfer to his team so he doesnt have to worry about that rule and Duke is a school that most kids dont transfer from.

 

Your argument is that your teams struggle because everyone wants to go to Duke, well there are always more players then scholarships and if you dont have a program that looks like it can win or hasnt been successful your not going to get the great players most of the time. While I agree with part of your argument, that they struggle do to recruiting, its not all Duke's fault, there are so many big time college programs for kids to choose from and its all about exposure and getting to the next level, why would a kid go to a so-so program that is not big on the national level or hasnt been as of late, when they could go to a Duke, Kansas, Maryland, Florida, Arizona, UCLA, teams that are in big basketball areas and get the most TV exposure and the better chance to be seen by scout to improve draft position and possible future indorsements.

 

LATE

[Guest alfdogg]

I'll admit I wasn't a fan of his on indiana but now with the raptors he gets my full endorsement

Hey!  Them's fightin' words where I come from!