IGN gives RAW a 9.1...Gamespot a 6.5..who's right?

[Guest Badd Company]

Now that I am FINALLY getting some offers from people wanting to trade their X-Box for my PS2, (if you're interested, let me know) I'm really interested in how this game is.  My hopes were sky high with IGN's review, but they've been grounded a bit with Gamespot's...it shipped today, so how is it guys?

[Guest jimmy no nose]

According to Scotsman's preview Gamespot got it right here.  IGN stated all of the game's flaws making it seem like a 7 tops, but then gave it a 9.1.  Gamespot stated all of the flaws making it seem like a 7 tops then gave it a seemingly earned 6.5.  I do not have the game and I'm going strictly based on what I've heard, so maybe it'd be better if someone with the game replies.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

IGN needs to have its hands caught in the cookie jar one of these days.  

 

Cookie Jar=Bill Gates' Wallet, among other things..

 

Their X Box favoritism is disgusting.

 

And why the heck would you want to trade a PS2 for an X Box?

[Guest fazzle]

They're game reviews.  They're based on how much you liked the game.  Therefore, they're opinions.

 

In other words, NEITHER are right!  There's no such thing as a "correct" review.

 

Oh, and, Marvin, their "X-Box bias" is complete bullshit.  They're equal opportunity whores for ANY game that gets decent promotion, so long as it doesn't 100% completely suck.

[Guest KoR Fungus]

There's definitely such a thing as a graphics whore, X-Box shill review, however.  The xbox.ign.com DOA 3 review is a perfect example.  GameSpot reviews, from my experience, tend to be more in depth and *much* more objective than IGN reviews, so I'd take GameSpot's word for it.

 

Hehe and I have the same question as Marvin, why would you want to trade a PS2 for an X-Box, bog?

[Guest thevertex]

There is definately a bias. Sonic Adventure 2 got a 6.9. Raw got a 9.1.

 

That pretty much speaks for itself, those scores should be reversed. IGN is clearly overtly pro x-box.

[Guest Badd Company]

In my experience, IGN seems to be too generous, whereas Gamespot seems to be too strict.  I'm a fan of Scots, but I think he was somewhat harsh considering it was a beat copy, though I won't be the least surpirsed is Sanders Keel continues his assault on the legacy of good WWF games.  Oh well, as soon as somebody has the game, please post your thoughts.  As for the IGN X-Box bias comment, I don't think they are getting bribed, but I do think that the editors for some sections of IGN are a little too zealous about whatever system or company there section represents, and such stupidity tends to spawn fanboy tendencies in its readers.

 

I am trading the PS2 away because it has more games I am interested in than the PS2 does, and I like the fact that it takes better advantage of the technology available.  I'm one of those guys who can't seem to figure out what all the fuss is over the Final Fantasy series (though to be fair the only RPG I've ever truly liked was the original Shining Force), and I've never cared for the Metal Gear Solid games either.  I also like the fact that Microsoft actually used some forward thinking with the X-Box, so that the games have actual real time 5.1 sound, and that the HD and ethernet components are already built in.  The only negative is that the idiots didn't include progressive scan ouput for DVD movies, just games.  I've got no beef with the PS2 in any way, I just don't have a lot of interest in their game selection these days (Maximo and State Of Emergency being the sole exceptions).  My brother has a Cube, and while I think it is a stellar system, its game selection is rather thin....the only games I would consider buys for it are Rogue Leader, maybe Pikmin, and a couple of ports that are available on every other system.  To be fair to Nintendo though, they currently hold the title of being the makers of my favorite current system, the GBA (Fire Pro today, and tomorrow afternoon, Super Mario World Advance...it's old school heaven, says I).  Marvin, don't even start your normal spiel, as I have posted before my thoughts on your pointless, baseless, (and done to get attention) bias against the X-Box before, and judging from your lack of response, I think I hit the nail on the head.  Why can't people realize that all three systems are great consoles?

[Guest KoR Fungus]

Hehe I don't like that example since I hate Sonic Adventure 2, but I agree that X-Box games tend to get overgraded.  Different people review the games for each system, right?  If so, it makes sense that they're not all graded on the same scale.

[Guest fazzle]

There is definately a bias. Sonic Adventure 2 got a 6.9. Raw got a 9.1.

 

No..Sonic Adventure 2 got a 9.4.  Sonic Adventure 2 Battle got a 6.9.  And, although I haven't read the review, I'd be willing to bet it's because it's a port of an 8 month old game with nothing more than a few new multiplayer options.

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

I'd probably lean more towards Gamespot. If only because it seems as if IGN's reviews are forever locked away for the "Insiders" and I can never actually read what they say.

[Guest Badd Company]

Yeah, I would say it's more due to the fact that it's an 8 month old port, and also, I got the vibe that the reviewer didn't really care for either of the Dreamcast Sonic games to begin with, which kind of makes me wonder why they had him review it to begin with.

[Guest Sakura]

I've only played it for a couple hours so far, but I would have to say the Gamespot review is closer. No matter how much you tell yourself that the lack of modes doesn't matter, once you sit down and play the game, you really miss them. The game is just bare bones. That's pathetic.

 

The gameplay could have made it great anyway, but it doesn't. It's messed up. It's harder than hell to do a finisher.

 

 

As for Sonic Adventure 2....I liked the Sonic levels but everything else was crap. Maybe it's just me, but when I buy a game called "Sonic Adventure" I expect Sonic style action, not hunt and gather levels while I play as some bat or whatever. LAME.

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Are the graphics really all that great?

And just what hell are the controls like?

[Guest Sakura]

The graphics are good except some of the animation. The walking animation is god-awful.

 

The controls are kind of like No Mercy and kind of not. It's got the grapple system but there is this weird "Voltage meter" at the bottom that is based on how much the crowd likes you. If you do the same move over and over it goes down. If you are beating the opponent it goes up. To do a special you have to have them groggy and have the meter flashing. This like, never happens.

[Guest]

Maybe they just love Xbox man......it is not like they get paid to say good shit bout it.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

There is definately a bias. Sonic Adventure 2 got a 6.9. Raw got a 9.1.

I've been a huge Sonic fan since the old days and was completely and totally disappointed by SA2. It wasn't a very good Sonic game, but the fact that it was made by Naka and Sonic Team makes it just too much for me to bear.

[Guest fazzle]

Yeah, Sonic Adventure 2 is the worst Sonic game ever, IMO.  I can just picture the planning meetings on this one.

 

"Well..a-yup, SA1 was a fucking great game.  And, all those characters to play as were great, but we think it might have been just too darn confusing for the customers, so..they get no choice on who to play as.  It'll be FANNNNNtastic!  And to prove it, I've brought my son Billy in to test it for us.  So, what do you think Billy?"

 

"Weeeeeee!  This is great!  Wow..that stage was really good dad!  Wait..what's this?  I wanna play as Sonic!"

 

"You can, you can, just sit back and do these other stages first, then you can get back to Sonic."

 

"But..but..I wanna be Sonic!"

 

"Shut up Billy!  You don't know what you want!"  *smack*  "See, gentlemen, obviously, this is going to be a huge hit."

[Guest thevertex]

well, I personally loved the Sonic levels, they were much better than SA1 which was already good, and though the Knuckles levels were pretty fun, but absolutely hated the Tails levels. They should have given everyone seperate quests like in 1, but it's not like it's overtly hard.

 

It's pretty obvious that a 6.9 is bs though, they have given other ports MUCH higher grades that were in the same class.

[Guest jimmy no nose]

Well, the new Game Informer gave it a 6.5 as well, so take that for what it's worth.  And on the subject of IGN's reviews being biased, there is one thing that must be said that has yet to be mentioned.  That is that IGN has different groups of guys that do reviews for each system.  The X Box guys really love the system and have given all of the early releases a good score.  Each crew grades in a totally different way.  For example, the DC people gave SA2 a 9.4, but the GC version got a 6.9.  It's just the guys who do the reviews, not the site as a whole.

[Guest CED Ordonez]

I played it at my friend's house and I was really disappointed at the controls, which suck large. The graphics are good and everything, but what's the point if you can't play the game? I'm going with Gamespot and giving it a 7 tops

[Guest redbaron51]

To me neither.

 

I would say IGN, but the bastards (actually snowball) is all insider thingy.

 

So EGM gets my vote.

 

 

But between IGN, and Gamespot, IGN.

[Guest One Bad Apple]

Like Dave Mustaine is the Allah of the music world.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Raw sucked.

 

A classic example of style over substance.  The entrances are the best part, and that is truly a sad thing.

 

The only good things are the stamina bar and the crowd getting pissed off when you do a move too many times.  Both could be used (and improved upon) if they were on the No Mercy engine, which for my money is the best ever. (and a lot of ppls money for that matter).

 

The fact that you can hit a musclebuster and have the guy totally no sell it shows how bad the AI is.  You cannot have a 'great match' with this game.

[Guest Zero]

I'd say, GameSpot is right.

 

Collecting the weapons and stuff is fun, but, only for so long. The actual wrestling alone, will not hold you, even though they tried "so hard" making it perfect.

[Guest converge241]

Gamespot without a doubt.

What a disapointment