CanadianGuitarist 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 I don't like the way the tap looks to old school submission holds like the figure four or the Sharpshooter. It doesn't give the same emotional vibe to me than hearing the man scream "YES! YES!" and shaking his head in a verbal submission. Dames <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites