Guest Report post Posted May 21, 2002 I mean i used to like the King, but now i just really don't like him anymore. I definitely think Raven would be much better, I mean he's funny in commentating, and he's half a decent wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted May 21, 2002 I should have known something was up when Raven hit the commentary table. All just a set-up to get Lawler over in his hometown. I knew it was too good to be true... they finally get a good colour man to save us from PuppyMania, and it's all a ruse. And they couldn't even give us a proper payoff to the match! WWE -- where the "E" stands for "E"laborate Nonsense. Feh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Everything tonight had so much potential: - Booker T finally turning face by giving the nWo the finger instead of doing that hand sign - the commentary team finally getting someone who talks about wrestling. I didn’t want Lawler to be replaced, but a 3-man team with Raven wouldn’t have been too bad - RVD finally getting that push to the top level I thought the WWE had listened to their audience and were going to change, but yet again they dissappoint and it's the same old shit. At least I’m looking forward to Eddie vs. Stone Cold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Whoever came up with Raven's lines could've written them from quotes on this board over the last few weeks. That was great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted May 21, 2002 It could have been MUCH worse. Imagine if Lawler got a DEAFENING pop in Memphis? World Champion Jerry Lawler is such a terrifying proposition. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Since when is Raven a good commentator? All he said tonight was "You know nothing about wrestling, all you talk about is puppes." He repeated that sentiment MORE THAN KING SHOUTS PUPPIES. Any time Raven tried to attack King, it came out as this. "Y... you just... wel... y... you don't know anything about wrestling anymore, y..." Not stuttering, just pausing because he couldn't think of anything else to say. THIS is your idea of a good commentator? Fuck that. Gimme Lawler over Raven any day of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Hmm. Well at least we know one thing. The WWE has at least figured out what most of us have known for a fact: Lawler sucks. But you know, a 3rd man at the table, ie Raven, would be pretty cool maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted May 21, 2002 I read that Raven actually is going back to wrestling and wants to give up announcing as he feels he still has some years left in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Raven is waaay better than lawler on the mic. I really, really think they should have him as the cornerstone of the hardcore division for the time being, give him booking duties there as well. Most of the spots in the rhyno match last year were his, and that was the best HC title match in the wwf ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Everything tonight had so much potential: - Booker T finally turning face by giving the nWo the finger instead of doing that hand sign Huh, did I miss something? Didn't see that part. I saw him do the hand sign with X-pac, Show & Nash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Everything tonight had so much potential: - Booker T finally turning face by giving the nWo the finger instead of doing that hand sign Huh, did I miss something? Didn't see that part. I saw him do the hand sign with X-pac, Show & Nash. He was saying that the segment had the potential to be that way and could have been better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted May 21, 2002 - Booker T finally turning face by giving the nWo the finger instead of doing that hand sign Patience, my boy, patience. The payoff is always sweeter when you have to wait for it. And I'll wait as long as it takes for the nWo to finally die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 21, 2002 I think the comentary on Raw could be freshened up by Raven who, if you ever listen to him on Heat, is a real Heel anouncer he glorifies the heels and puts down the faces like the heel anouncers of old which i like move the King to Heat and have him do PPV's with Ross and let Raven do comentary on Raw Too bad Raven doesn't want to do comentary and would much rather wrestle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Anyone elese KNOW THIS IS A REDO OF AN OLD ANGLE? Raven vs Lawyer, when raven was a jobber had to beat lawyer to get a date with missy hayatt, before the crack, raven lost and the angle was over after that night....glad to know people have read missy's book.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Anyone elese KNOW THIS IS A REDO OF AN OLD ANGLE? Raven vs Lawyer, when raven was a jobber had to beat lawyer to get a date with missy hayatt, before the crack, raven lost and the angle was over after that night....glad to know people have read missy's book.... I read the book but forgot all about that. This was way before Raven made a name for himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 21, 2002 I hate Jerry Lawler too. All he ever does is talk about are those ugly divas that look like grandmothers. I think Jerry should retire and get powerbombed 6 times by Brock Lesnar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Anyone elese KNOW THIS IS A REDO OF AN OLD ANGLE? Raven vs Lawyer, when raven was a jobber had to beat lawyer to get a date with missy hayatt, before the crack, raven lost and the angle was over after that night....glad to know people have read missy's book.... Missy Who? Even if it was for a cheap pop for Lawler (I cringe at the thought), I can't believe the one time I miss RAW my man Raven dishes out my... uhh... un-man Lawler, with stuff I say all the time! ??? At least the news that Raven wants to get back into wrestling more often is good though. Maybe he can make the Hardcore Belt semi-credible like last year when he had all those matches with Rhyno. Who's Hardcore champion now anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted May 21, 2002 Stevie Richards is the Hardcore champ, so that's perfect. And Raven may have said 'You know nothing about wrestling anymore, you just scream about puppies' but at least that was true. Lawler had nothing better to say than 'Why don't you get outta here?' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 22, 2002 Don't forget the line, "what do you know about puppies anyway? Is that why your wife left you?" Something like that. Lawler looked like he was gonna cry. That was some old school, Memphis Shoot style stuff there. btw, when was that Lawler/Raven/Missy angle? Was that USWA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muswp1 Report post Posted May 22, 2002 If there was a better commentator out there, then yes I would say Lawler has to go. Everyone else that's availble is much worse than he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted May 22, 2002 If there was a better commentator out there, then yes I would say Lawler has to go. Everyone else that's availble is much worse than he is. >>> Raven and Heyman are both better right now. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Stevie Richards is the Hardcore champ, so that's perfect. And Raven may have said 'You know nothing about wrestling anymore, you just scream about puppies' but at least that was true. Lawler had nothing better to say than 'Why don't you get outta here?' That shows you that no one made an effort to actually write the segment. They just told Raven and King to go out there and do something that leads to a match. You could also tell it was hastily thrown together because: 1) Raven's comments about King's wife would never have been approved by King if he knew about them beforehand. 2) Lawler's not THAT good of an actor. He was legitimately taken aback. 3) Raven ran out of material real quick. Lawler's responses weren't very diverse, either. 4) For coming out there to "properly call the match," Raven didn't say much. 5) During the Raven/Lawler match, Raven said he'd "see [JR] next week." JR said "in your dreams," but it's not like King's announcer spot was said to be on the line or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
