Campaign 2008

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Joe Biden. Dude hates jews more than anyone else in Washington.

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Who reacted with laughter? Was this one of those things that you thought you read somewhere?

 

People that I know. They thought the Palin effigy was hilarious, but decried the Obama version as soon as it occurred.

 

I can understand the points about it being different due to a southern state. When I visited Nashville four weeks ago, the differences in racial attitude were incredible.

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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/200...alin/index.html

 

"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told host Chris Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."

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I wasn't aware the media was attacking her first amendment rights?

 

As far as my observation goes, the media never said she wasn't allowed to use any form attacks she felt like doing rather they were making an observation that it was negative campaigning, which is pretty much an opinion and it is up to the people whether they choose to agree or not.

 

Mrs. Palin is doing a little too much stretching with claiming her "first amendment rights are being attacked"

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The First Amendment is actually not that complicated. It can be read from start to finish in about 10 seconds. It bars the Government from abridging free speech rights. It doesn't have anything to do with whether you're free to say things without being criticized, or whether you can comment on blogs without being edited, or whether people can bar you from their private planes because they don't like what you've said.

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I propose a new means of measuring:

 

THE PALINOMETER...gauges how many ways a statement is ignorant or irrational.

 

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/200...alin/index.html

 

"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told host Chris Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."

 

PALINOMETER SCORE: 3

-Incorrectly defines what negative campaigning is (attacking you opponent instead of pushes your own candidate/program).

-Shows fundamental ignorance about the Constitution.

-Shifts blame for people not caring about her use of "guilt by association" fallacy from the fallacy itself to the media.

 

 

 

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Heh:

 

Route 90 heading for Mentor, to the east of Cleveland Ohio. The police are blocking the entry ramps and the McCain convoy is slowing everyone down in the evening commute.

 

One woman parked on the entry ramp's confused. "Who is it," she asks excitedly, "Obama?"

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/ma.../confusion.html

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Well a former Chief of Staff for Ronald Regan endorsed Obama.

Clearly, like Powell, another case of the black folk sticking together.

 

He also probably had the best burn on Palin yet.

On MSNBC, he added a little insult to injury -- literally. Referring to John McCain's choice of running mate, Duberstein said, "What most Americans, I think, realize, is that you don't offer a job, let alone the vice presidency, to a person after one job interview. Even at McDonald's, you're interviewed three times before you're given a job."

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On the lighter side of things, Obama and Palin have apparently gone to Venezuela to improve their defense credentials.

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The Onion had an article in 1993 about Joe the Forklift Driver from Ohio

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Meanwhile, Obama's folks won't let back on their plane three newspapers' reporters who endorsed McCain. (The newspapers, that is...two of them being the Washington Times and the Dallas Morning News). The TV station in Orlando that Obama and Biden's folks pulled future appearances and interviews after the reporter asked about how Biden felt that people referred to Obama's programs as socialist. So much for freedom of the press and the 1st Amendment.

 

Welcome to Amerika, comrades.

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That has nothing to do with the first amendment. Or freedom of the press.

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1st Amendment? We just went over that. This absolutely does not fall under the 1st amendment no matter how you turn it.

 

And you're also wrong about the reporter. She didn't ask Biden how he felt about people referring to Obama's programs as socialist, she outright called them socialist. Furthermore, she insinuated that Obama's proposals were Marxist. Furthermore, the entire damn interview was a ridiculous sham of an interview; the lowest rungs of journalism.

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the lowest rungs of journalism.

 

Hey now, that's reserved for my articles.

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Lets see here is the text from the first amendment:

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

No where in there says anything about being called out for what you are doing, refusing private plane rides, or not wanting to do interviews with people because you find the interviewer to be retarded. Press is allowed to say and do what they please. Palin can say what she want on attacks. Obama/Biden are not taking interviews with idiots. Their staff is only going to shuffle around supporters, not people against them. It isn't like its Northwest denying someone because they are voting R. Even though each plane company can do so.

 

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It is still playing favorites among the reporters, though, and a bit of an eyebrow raiser. It's not like the Washington Times or New York Post are some tiny little backwater rags, they're established papers with fairly wide circulation, and their reporters were apparently among those told to take a hike. Is that a First Amendment violation? Absolutely not. Is it legal to kick them out just because you feel dissed that their papers endorsed McCain? Absolutely. No law was broken here. Still doesn't change the fact that it's a kinda shady move, and seems to imply a bit of passive blackmail ("don't help our opponent, or you won't get a seat at the table").

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The Onion had an article in 1993 about Joe the Forklift Driver from Ohio

It was actually from "Our Dumb Century," a fake 20th century retrospective book published in 1999.

 

 

My favorite eerily prophetic Onion article (which I'm sure that has been posted before): http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

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The Onion had an article in 1993 about Joe the Forklift Driver from Ohio

It was actually from "Our Dumb Century," a fake 20th century retrospective book published in 1999.

 

 

My favorite eerily prophetic Onion article (which I'm sure that has been posted before): http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

 

That's a great book. I immediately noticed that the "forklift driver" photo was reused for another article as well.

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So Schwartzenegger of all people made a point that Obama had so much money spent on the election he could've saved the banks, and paid off all out morgages.

 

Arnold who was a millionaire BEFORE making it as the biggest star in hollywood.

 

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Does anyone else just take all the republicans complaining about how much Obama raised as just simple whining?

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You know, because Obama should've just donated it back into the banks. That would've made everyone happy.

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And people say any white person voting for McCain is a racist?

 

Obama's potential victory represents a previously unimaginable triumph over centuries of racism. But beneath the hope and pride lies fear: of polling inaccuracy, voting chicanery, or the type of injustice and violence that have historically stymied African-American progress.

 

Um...try being in Ohio, where we've got audio of ACORN representatives saying "We're trying to encourage people to vote for Obama" when they're supposed to be neutral, where someone was interviewed saying "I registered to vote six times today", and federal judges claiming a park bench can be a residence...

 

Need I continue?

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You're still talking about ACORN?

 

Moving on.

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MONTREAL – A Quebec comedy duo notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state has reached Sarah Palin, convincing the Republican vice-presidential nominee she was speaking with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

 

In the interview, which lasts about six minutes, Palin and the pranksters discuss politics, pundits, and the dangers of hunting with current vice-president Dick Cheney.

 

The Masked Avengers, who have a regular show on Montreal radio station CKOI, intend to air the full interview on the eve of the U.S. elections.

 

The well-known duo of Sebastien Trudel and Marc-Antoine Audette have also tricked Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger, Microsoft founder Bill Gates and French president Jacques Chirac.

 

The call to Chirac was rated by the BBC as one of the top 30 best moments in radio history of all time.

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Where can I find this

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The article says they're waiting until Monday night.

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You know, because Obama should've just donated it back into the banks. That would've made everyone happy.

 

"Obama buying off the AMERICAN VOTERS~!"

 

-Sean Hannity

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You're still talking about ACORN?

 

Moving on.

I'm still talking about it because Ohio could end up being a key state and the shit is still happening.

 

Just because it's an old topic doesn't mean it's not a relevant topic.

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You're still talking about ACORN?

 

Moving on.

I'm still talking about it because Ohio could end up being a key state and the shit is still happening.

 

Just because it's an old topic doesn't mean it's not a relevant topic.

 

Fivethirtyeight has Obama's chances in Ohio at 85% likelihood of a win. Furthermore, I'm going to stick by the NYT article I posted some time ago that writes, with resolve, that virtually never in history have ballots been actually falsely cast. Something like that.

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You're still talking about ACORN?

 

Moving on.

I'm still talking about it because Ohio could end up being a key state and the shit is still happening.

 

Just because it's an old topic doesn't mean it's not a relevant topic.

 

Fivethirtyeight has Obama's chances in Ohio at 85% likelihood of a win. Furthermore, I'm going to stick by the NYT article I posted some time ago that writes, with resolve, that virtually never in history have ballots been actually falsely cast. Something like that.

I wish I could find the article, but there was a case last week in Lorain County (which got some play on the local talk radio station in Cleveland, 1100AM) where a man the courts have deemed unfit to vote due to Alzheimer's was recruited by ACORN and cast a ballot. When the family saw the "I voted today" sticker and asked who he voted for, he said "I have no idea."

 

And that's just one they caught.

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Voter fraud is a valid concern, which is why anyone in ACORN or any other organization that breaks the laws should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

 

I don't think the tiny amount of voter fraud that might occur will change the outcome of this election, though.