Rewriting History

[Guest jm29195]

After being entertained and inspired by the excellent WWF rewriting history thread, I have decided to have a go at my own WCW version... I'm hoping to have it running from Starrcade 89, through to the 90's and beyond....anyway here's my first effort:-

 

Starrcade 89

Atlanta, GA

December 1989

 

This PPV follows the original’s Iron Man of the 90’s format- only the singles tournament is featured due to time constraints- changes I have made are that Steamboat is still with the company, having not had a contract dispute and walked out, The Skyscrapers were not injured at Clash 9 and are thus on the card, replacing the SST, the main event of Clash 9 was Sting/Flair vs Funk/Luger…. The four wrestlers in the Iron man tournament are Flair, Funk, Steamboat and Sting….

 

 

 

- The Rules: Competitors get 20 points for a pinfall or submission, 15 for a countout win, 10 for a DQ win, and 5 for a time-limit draw. Whoever has the most points after wrestling the other three people in the tournament wins. All matches are 20 minute time limits.

 

- Sting beat Ricky Steamboat (10:39) following a superplex reversal ***1/2

 

- Doom beat The Skyscrapers (6:27) following interference by Women- Sid powerbombed Nitron following the decision **

 

- Ric Flair beat Terry Funk by submission (18:33) using the figure four ****1/2

 

- Brian Pillman beat Lex Luger for the US title (12:53) with a flying cross-body block- Luger destroyed Pillman with a chair after the bell ****

 

- Ricky Steamboat and Terry Funk didn’t happen after Funk destroyed Steamboat’s leg with a chair, and the spinning toehold, Sting made the save and also took a beating from Funk. Funk is disqualified from the tournament and Steamboat gets 10 points off a DQ win,

 

- The Steiners pinned the Road Warriors (18:49) to retain the tag straps after Rick powerslammed Hawk off Animal’s shoulders, countering the doomsday device ***

 

- Ricky Steamboat and Ric Flair went to a time limit draw which went down to Steamboat not submitting to the figure four, despite being in the move for 5 minutes and already working hurt

 

- Dr Death Steve Williams pinned The Great Muta (15:00) following a doctor bomb ***

 

- Sting pinned Ric Flair (19:59) after reversing the figure four- the horsemen celebrate in the ring to close the show ***1/4

 

- Final points in the Iron Man Tournament Terry Funk- 0 points, Ricky Steamboat- 15 points, Ric Flair- 25 points, Sting- 40 points and the Iron Man of the 90’s!

[Guest jm29195]

Clash of The Champions X: Texas Shootout

January 1990

Corpus Christi, Texas

 

- Dr. Death Steve Williams pinned Mean Marc Callous (9:43) with a doctor bomb **

 

- Horsemen Angle with Sting getting kicked out and subsequent beatdown by Flair, Ole and Arn

 

- Kevin Sullivan pinned Cactus Jack Manson (7:10) after Cactus took the Nestea Plunge off the apron in a falls count anywhere match **

 

- Lex Luger was interviewed and invoked his rematch clause for the US belt at Wrestlewar 90, Pillman accepted and a brawl occurred

 

- The Skyscrapers pinned Doom (10:04) after a double chokeslam on Butch Reed, as a consequence of their loss, Doom was forced to unmask *1/2

 

- The Road Warriors beat The Steiner Bros (15:46) to lift the Tag Straps in a Texas Deathmatch after the doomsday device was used on Rick Steiner ***1/2

 

- Ricky Steamboat cut a promo on Terry Funk to a very negative reaction, challenging him to an I Quit the NWA (loser leaves town) match at Wrestlewar

 

- Terry Funk, Buzz Sawyer and the Great Muta beat Ric Flair, Arn and Ole Anderson (13:32) in a cage match when Funk pinned Ole Anderson- Flair attempted to make the save but was stopped by Sting who scaled the cage and blindsided him with a leaping clothesline from the top, all six men bled heavily ***

[hitman2003 0]

I really what you're doing here. Very good booking so far. I'm glad to see that someone is finally doing a WCW fantasy booking thread like the the WWF one that I've been doing. If you ever need any help with this thread feel free to ask. I'd love to help out.

[Guest jm29195]

Wrestlewar 90

February 1990

Greensboro, North Carolina

 

 

- The Rock and Roll Express beat the Midnight Express (23:10) after Gibson cradled Lane on a failed Flapjack attempt ****

 

- Brian Pillman beat Lex Luger (12:15) after Luger tried to KO Pillman with a pipe and Pillman stole the pipe and KO’d Luger with it, after the decision Luger again went nuts, attacking the ring crew and putting one of them in the human torture rack **1/2

 

- The Steiner Bros pinned the Road Warriors (25:46) in a Chicago Street Fight to regain the WCW tag belts after Scott Steiner frankensteinered Hawk off Rick Steiner’s shoulders ****

 

 

- Ricky Steamboat forced Terry Funk to submit and therefore leave the NWA

(23:52) The Great Muta was at ringside and frequently interfered on Funk’s behalf, at one point Muta went to mist Steamboat and instead got Funk in the face with the dreaded black mist- Steamboat then choked Funk out with a television camera cable ****

 

- Ole and Arn Anderson beat The Skyscrapers (7:56) after a low blow by Ole on Sid during a chokeslam attempt. After the match, The Horsemen put Dan Spivey out of commission by ‘breaking his legs’ with repeated strikes from tyre irons **

 

- Sting beat Ric Flair (35:45) after a pin reversal to win the NWA Heavyweight Championship. After the decision Ole and Arn Anderson run in to beatdown Sting but are seen off by the Steiner Bros. However Dr Death Steve Williams also runs down and reveals he is the new Fourth Horseman as he levels the new champion – and sheer weight of numbers overwhelms the tag champions leaving the horsemen standing triumphant and stealing the championship belt back as the PPV closes ****

 

 

 

NB: I have decided not to ahead with a US Tag Title Tournament, as I feel that one tag title for the company at present is just fine....

[Guest jm29195]

Clash of The Champions XI- Coastal Crush!

March 1990

Charleston, SC

 

 

 

- The Rock and Roll Express beat The Southern Boys (12:57) after Ricky Morton pinned Tracy Smothers with a victory roll. After the bell The RnR’s issued a challenge to the Steiner’s but were interrupted by a retooled Doom who performed a beat down and issued their own challenge for the belts***

 

- Brian Pillman pinned Tom Zenk (6:33) to retain the US title. After the match Pillman issued an open challenge for the US belt at Capital Carnage*1/2

 

- A promo video aired for newcomer Big Van Vader, he will debut at Capital Combat against the winner of the next match

 

- Barry Windham pinned Bam Bam Bigelow (6:23) on a fluke roll up, Bigelow dominated throughout the match and was caught off guard when arguing with Nick Patrick over a perceived slow count **

 

- Ricky Steamboat pinned Cactus Jack (12:56) after a flying crossbody from the top rope. Cactus was accompanied by his new manager/tag partner Kevin Sullivan. After the match The Great Muta ran in and assaulted Steamboat ***

 

- Lex Luger lost to Junkyard Dog by DQ (1:56) JYD was treating the match as a comedy match which didn’t go well with Luger, who beat him badly with a chair and choked him out with a pipe, referees and officials pulled Luger off.

 

- Dr Death Steve Williams pinned Rick Steiner (5:23) following the Oklahoma Stampede *

 

- Hype video announcing Flair/Sting the Rematch at Capital Combat

 

- Sid Vicious pinned Arn Anderson (6:22) following a chokeslam. Following the decision Ole and Williams beat down and ‘crippled’ Sid with the tyre iron and a doctor bomb, and a massive brawl erupted with the Steiners and Sting on one side and all the Horsemen on the other to close the show1/2*

[Guest JMA]

I second my partner's opinion. I'll definitely be reading this thread.

[Guest jm29195]

NWA Capital Carnage

March 1990

Live from Washington, DC

 

 

 

- Southern Boys beat The Midnight Express by pinfall (19:23) after Beautiful Bobby wiped out on a Rocket Launcher and Sweet Stan gets sun-set flipped for the pin****

 

- Big Van Vader beat Barry Windham (6:23) in a virtual squash after a vader bomb. After the match Bam Bam Bigelow came out and the two monsters brawled their way through the crowd and out of the arena**

 

- Brian Pillman beat ‘Mean’ Marc Callous (12:19) to retain the US belt Callous dominated the match and gave a good showing but ultimately Pillman pulled off the victory with a rope assisted swinging implant ddt (The Pillmanizer) ***

 

- The Rock and Roll Express beat Doom (16:22) to gain no.1 contendership status for the tag belts when Ricky Morton school boyed Butch Reed. They did the respect handshake deal afterwards despite Women’s protests- Doom fired her to a big pop from the crowd***

 

- Lex Luger beat Cactus Jack (9:11) by forcing him to submit to the torture rack. After the match Luger again tried to cripple Jack but he was saved by Sullivan. The announcers speculated who was going to stop Luger’s rampage*

 

- Dr Death Steve Williams beat Johnny Ace (5:33) with a doctor bomb. **1/2

 

- The Great Muta beat Ricky Steamboat (20:49) following a moonsault ****1/2

 

- The Steiner Bros beat Ole and Arn Anderson (13:33) to retain the tag belts when Scott frankensteinered Ole. Following the decision Steve Williams assisted the Anderson’s in roughing up the champs with various foreign objects until the Rock and Roll Express made the save. After the heels had been run off the Steiner’s abruptly turned on the new no.1 contenders, levelling Morton with a lariat into a release german suplex***

 

- Sting beat Ric Flair (26:29) to retain the NWA heavyweight title following the scorpion deathdrop. At one point Flair obtained a visual submission on Sting after working over his leg throughout the match, including chair and post shots, and then locking on the figure-four, unfortunately Nick Patrick did not see this****

[Guest jm29195]

WCW Free event Special (2 hours) Showcase of The Champions

To be run opposite Wrestlemania VI

Late March 1990

Atlanta, GA

 

 

- Video showcasing the champions of WCW

 

- Brian Pillman beat Barry Windham (12:53) to retain the US belt following a Pillmanizer ***

 

- Video hyping ‘battle of the behemoths’ Vader vs Bam Bam Bigelow at The Great American Bash

 

- Dr. Death Steve Williams beat Tom Zenk (3:23) with the Oklahoma Stampede in a squash match *

 

- Video showing the descent of Lex Luger into madness, who will his opponent be at the GAB?

 

- Prior to the next match Ric Flair states that he was cheated at the last ppv and wants Sting in a submissions rematch at the Great American Bash

 

- Sting and the Steiner Bros beat Ric Flair and The Andersons (23:45) Ole and Iron are incapacitated with a flying bulldog and frankensteiner respectively and Flair is made to submit with the Scorpion Deathlock. After the match Sting accepts Flair’s challenge ****

 

Commercial for NWA Great American Bash 1990

 

- Lex Luger beat Paul Orndorff (4:16) with the human torture rack, again crippling his foe with a chair 1/2*

 

- Steamboat/Muta feud recap video

 

- Ricky Steamboat beat The Great Muta (57:45) Incredible match fought at a fast pace with numerous back and forth action and near falls. Steamboat wraps it up by reversing a pinfall combination that Muta has already gone for earlier in the match. Muta gets his full Tokyo Skydome Entrance ie WCW Japan Supershow 91. After the match Steamboat helps Muta to his feet and warily shakes his hand. On commentary Jim Ross says that some men don’t need to hold a belt to be a champion.****3/4

[Guest jm29195]

Great American Bash 1990

June 1990

Live from Baltimore, Maryland.

 

 

- The Great Muta and Dr Death Steve Williams beat Ricky Steamboat and Barry Windham (22:32) when Great Muta performed the handspring elbow on a dazed Steamboat who had just been hit by a Williams corner splash. After the match Williams brawled out through the arena and Steamboat accepted that Muta was at least his equal and challenged him to a best of 3 series of varying stipulations at the next 3 high profile NWA events***1/2

 

- ‘Lariat’ Stan Hansen beat Lex Luger (5:23) with the Lariat clothesline. Luger had been going ballistic in the ring prior to the match, issuing an open challenge and putting the ring announcer in the torture rack until his demands were met. Hansen was a surprise debut, totally dominating the match and destroying Luger in the aftermath. All the victims of Luger came out to celebrate afterwards but Hansen destroyed them with lariats, finishing with a tope suicida onto Junkyard Dog at ringside**

 

- Debutants the Nasty Boys fought Cactus Jack and Kevin Sullivan to a DDQ (8:00) when the match went totally out of control and the two teams brawled back into the concession stands and locker room***

 

- Mean Marc Callous beat Brian Pillman for the US title (12:45) Pillman had the match won but Callous’s new manager Paul E Dangerously ran down and hit Pillman with his phone allowing Callous the cheap victory**

 

- The Steiner Bros beat the Rock and Roll Express (30:01) in a clean face/face technical classic ending with the Steiner body vice elbow smash on Morton. The teams shook hands afterwards.****

 

- Big Van Vader beat Bam Bam Bigelow (14:08) with the vadersault

***1/2

 

- Ric Flair beat Sting via referee’s decision (22:01) after Sting passed out due to blood loss and was counted down in the figure four. At one point in the match Sting rolled out to floor and was smashed in the face by a tyre iron wielding Arn Anderson who had been hiding under the ring….The show ended with Flair and the horsemen posing triumphantly over the bloody body of Sting****

[Carnival 0]

I love the idea of the rewriting WCW history thread. The WWF one is interesting, and i wanna see how this one turns out too.

 

Kudos.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

I'll be reading this as well.

 

Loss and I have been batting around ideas for something like this, based on Ric Flair being able to lure the WWF names he was after, as head booker, and being able to keep Steamboat.

[Guest jm29195]

Clash of The Champions XII

August 1990

Asheville, NC

 

 

- Opening interview, the Horsemen came out and Ole said that now Flair is Champion once again, he was going to kick back and take it easy, Ole is stepping down from active competition to fulfil a spokesman role and a new member of the horsemen will be revealed by the end of the programme

 

- ‘Lariat’ Stan Hansen beat The Junkyard Dog (5:23) with the lariat Clothesline. After the match Hansen challenged any champion in the company for a match at Halloween Havoc*

 

- Steiner Bros beat The Master Blasters (1:29) Both the Blaster’s are hit by Steiner lines within seconds of the opening bell, and Blaster Steel takes the frankensteiner moments later to mop this squash up. The (unbeaten) Nasty Boys came out and issued a challenge for Halloween Havoc, the Steiner’s accepted and the 2 teams went at it in the ring in the obligatory pull apart brawl(DUD)

 

- The Southern Boys, with newest member Brad Armstrong issued a challenge for a 6-man tag match later in the programme. The Freebirds, Michael Hayes, Jimmy Garvin, with manager DDP accepted with the Southern Boys confident that the Freebirds will basically be wrestling a handicap match with their manager in the team

 

- Flair, surrounded by the Horsemen accepted Hansen’s challenge, noting that Halloween Havoc may be held in Texas this year but even with a home town crowd, that filthy redneck’s got no chance.

 

- Big Van Vader beat Mean Marc Callous (12:59) for the US title after an avalanche splash and a powerbomb. After the match Paul E Dangerously turned on Callous and seemed to leave with Vader**

 

- The Great Muta pinned Brian Pillman (15:47) following a moonsault. After the match Muta accepted Steamboat’s challenge made at the Bash and the first stipulation was decided upon as being a ‘Martial Arts Challenge’ match***

 

- Cactus Jack and Kevin Sullivan beat The Rock and Roll Express (9:49) after Jack DDT’d Gibson on the floor and threw him back into the ring to be pinned by Sullivan***

 

- The Freebirds beat The Southern Boys in a 6 man match (15:00) when debuting member Bam Bam Terry Gordy forced a submission from Tracy Smothers with the Asiatic Spike**1/2

 

- Ric Flair and Dr Death Steve Williams beat Ricky Steamboat and Barry Windham (12:00) The main body of the match was a big heat section on Steamboat with Flair and Williams keeping the ring cut firmly in half. When Steamboat finally got the hot tag, Windham made the horseman sign and turned on him, hitting the implant ddt and allowing Flair to make the arrogant cover (Williams was distracting the referee) Stan Hansen ran in and tried to get at Flair but was held at bay by Williams.***

[Guest jm29195]

Halloween Havoc 1990

October 1990

Austin, Texas

 

 

- Johnny Ace beat Mean Marc Callous (9:46) following his new finishing manoeuvre, the Ace Crusher, Callous was stretchered out as the announcers speculated as to his future with the company.**

 

- Jim Cornette was baited into adding the stipulation of ‘Loser leaves the NWA’ by The RnR express with regards to the later match.

 

- Bam Bam Bigelow beat Cactus Jack (12:33) following greetings from Ansbury Park. After the match it was revealed that Harley Race was Bigelow’s new manager.***

 

- Barry Windham/Arn Anderson went to a double countout with Doom (15:36) both teams were counted out as they brawled outside the ring.****

 

- The Great Muta beat Steamboat in a martial arts match (24:03) with a running knee to the head . For this match the ropes and turnbuckles were taken down, and as such the match contained a huge amount of chain wrestling, with the obvious lack of highflying moves countered by Steamboat and Muta’s reliance on stiff chops and kicks.****

 

- Rock’ n Roll Express beat the Midnight Express (17:18) in a looser leaves the NWA match. After the match the RnR’s were assaulted at ringside by the Southern boys.****

 

- An interview with Lex luger aired, he claimed he was a changed man and issued a challenge to Sting for the next Clash of the Champions

 

- Big Van Vader beat Brian Pillman (4:49) in a virtual squash following the Vader bomb*

 

- Steve Williams beat Bam Bam Terry Gordy (26:29) following a doctor bomb. It was a very hard fought power match and the two did a mutual respect angle when the match concluded.***

 

- A segment aired with the horsemen arguing backstage that Williams should have destroyed Gordy after the match to remove a future threat instead of helping him to his feet.

 

- The Nasty Boys beat the Steiners (12:01) to capture the tag belts following a double team bulldog on Rick Steiner.**3/4

 

- Ric Flair beat Stan Hansen (26:24) with a roll up with his feet on the ropes. Both men bled heavily throughout the match, and Hansen at one point fought off interference from Windham and Williams who left ringside arguing. Hansen had Flair down with a lariat only for Ole Anderson to Flair’s foot on the ropes. The show closed with a bloody Flair lying in the ring with Hansen having stormed off, ‘who’s next for the champ?’ pondered Jim Ross****

[Guest jm29195]

Clash of The Champions XIII

November 1990

Jacksonville, Florida.

 

 

- Ricky Steamboat beat the Great Muta in a Falls Count Anywhere match. (12:59) Muta tried to perform the handspring elbow onto a dazed Steamboat who was lying against the ring barrier, but Steamboat countered it by german- suplexing Muta into the railing, getting the 3- count***

 

- A segment aired promoting the Pat O Conner Memorial Tag Tournament, happening at Starrcade. Entered in the tournament are Doom, Arn Anderson/Barry Windham, Dr Death Steve Williams/Bam Bam Terry Gordy, Johnny Ace/ ‘Lariat’ Stan Hansen, the returning Road Warriors and a mystery tag team that will be revealed by the end of the programme.

 

- Lex Luger beat Sting (9:00) Luger acted as a face throughout the match but abruptly clocked Sting with a foreign object and scored the pin, Luger acted bemused as to why Sting was not getting up after the match.**

 

- Cactus Jack/Kevin Sullivan beat the Freebirds (6:29) after Cactus ddt’d Hayes, this match was for no.1 contendership for the tag belts at Starrcade*

 

- Ric Flair cuts a promo saying that during the last 10 years, he has exhausted all viable US opponents for his belt, therefore for Starrcade he will be fighting NJPW’s Tatsumi Fujinami for the NWA Heavyweight Title at Starrcade

 

- Brian Pillman pinned Bam Bam Bigelow (6:26) following a pillmanizer. Bigelow entered the overconfident after witnessing Pillman’s performance at Haloween Havoc. After the match Pillman challenged Vader at Starrcade**

 

- Johnny Ace beat Ron Simmons (7:56) following the ace cutter **

 

- Arn Anderson/Barry Windham beat The Rock and Roll Express by dq (17:43) The Southern Boys tried interfering at one point but were held off. It looked like The Horsemen were going to cripple Morton and Gibson with tyre irons, but they were foiled by the returning Skyscrapers who wound up in a massive brawl with the other teams involved in the Starrcade tournament- the show ended with Sid and Spivey standing mid ring triumphant.***

[Carnival 0]

poop on that starcade ME! haha

 

I like that this gets updated very fast. never post nitros and crap like that, just put up PPVs and give a little background, keeps things moving. keep up the good work.

 

What happens when you reach 99 and guys like Jericho leave? Are you gonna book it so they actually leave or are you gonna use them properly and then they don't want to leave? I would suggest booking it as if they were leaving anyways, but it will get hard if you ever get to late 00 and the roster is pretty much crap.

[Guest jm29195]

What happens when you reach 99 and guys like Jericho leave? Are you gonna book it so they actually leave or are you gonna use them properly and then they don't want to leave? I would suggest booking it as if they were leaving anyways, but it will get hard if you ever get to late 00 and the roster is pretty much crap.

 

 

hmmm I may have them leave at the times that they really did leave, only achieve more with them before they go... maybe a Jericho who won the US title at Starrcade 98 would be more likely to return to WCW in early 2000 after becoming dellusioned by having to job to Chyna repeatedly in late 99.....

 

poop on that starcade ME! haha

 

 

Just out of interest, given my booking, who would you have had as Flair's opponent? I wanted to start using the NJPW connection sooner rather than later and figured using one of their top guys in a major part of Starrcade would keep NJPW sweet and leave them open to more talent swaps in the future......btw I'm also a major mark for NWA using tag teams as main event draws, maybe Flair/Fujinami won't be the main event?

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

I did the NWA, WWF, and AWA, and Mid South/UWF from 1980 -1993(?) month by month super cards. i should dig out my note books and post those. They all played off each other with Free Agents and such.

 

I think I did another AWA one where I based the booking around who Verne had in charge. That one fell to pieces once Eddie Gilbert got the book in 91 and had himself as World champ going over Stan Hansen.

[Guest jm29195]

NWA Starrcade 1990

December 1990

(3 1/2 hour long show)

St. Louis, Missouri.

 

 

- The Skyscrapers beat Doom (7:29) following a double chokeslam. A typical Skyscrapers match.*1/2

 

- Big Van Vader beat Brian Pillman (10:33) following 2 powerbombs and a chokeslam from the top rope. Pillman went through the match getting the piss beaten out of him by Vader but getting occasional hope spots, including along a long two count after he used Vader’s momentum to semi- powerbomb him off the top rope. Shortly afterwards Vader hit the Vaderbomb but Pillman kicked out. A visibly shocked Vader then pulled the barely conscious Pillman to his feet and hit the chain of finishing moves. Vader Raised the unconscious Pillman’s hand after the match in a show of respect.***1/2

 

- The Nasty Boys beat Kevin Sullivan/Cactus Jack (9:33) in a falls count anywhere match. The 2 teams brawled around the arena and utilised many different weapons. Brian Knobbs got the pin after beat Cactus Jack around the head repeatedly with a shovel. After the match The Nastys’ announce that they are using their clout as champs to challenge the winners of the next match in the semi final of the Pat O Conner Memorial Tournament.****

 

- Sting beat Lex Luger (7:43) after making Luger submit to the scorpion deathlock **

 

- Johnny Ace/’Lariat’ Stan Hansen beat The Road Warriors (12:33) after Johnny Ace hit the Ace Crusher to counter a mid-air Hawk’s attempted Doomsday Device. Ace then picked up the pin on Hawk as Hansen lariated a shocked Animal from behind. Jim Ross called ‘it one of the biggest upsets I’ve ever witnessed by God!’. ***1/2

 

- The Great Muta beat Ricky Steamboat (46:29) in a best 2/3 falls match. Steamboat picked up the first fall after reversing the shining wizard into a roll up. Muta picked up the second after powering out of the double chickenwing and dropping Steamboat on his head. Muta clinched the match by reversing the original reversal that Steamboat had used to get the first fall. Both men shook hands after the match

 

- A promo video by the Steiners aired wherein they challenged the winners of the tournament

 

- Dr Death Steve Williams/Bam Bam Terry Gordy beat Arn Anderson/Barry Windham (12:29) Anderson initially expected Gordy to lay down for him, but was shown the error of his ways with a punch to the head. An even match which ended when the Skyscrapers ran down the ramp but stopped short of the ring, shocking Anderson and allowing Gordy to hit a piledriver for the win,***

 

- Johnny Ace/Stan Hansen beat the Nasty Boys (6:15) after Ace hit Saggs with a top rope ace crusher. Jim Ross said that it ‘could well be Johnny Ace’s lucky night.’*1/2

 

- Steve Williams/Terry Gordy beat the Skyscrapers (4:14) in a sprint of a power match, with both teams stiffing the shit out of each other, and hitting big moves throughout its very short duration. The finish was Williams performing the Oklahoma Stampede on Spivey but first bouncing him off a dazed Sid. **1/2

 

- Ric Flair beat Tatsumi Fujinami (18:39) after reversing a roll up ****

 

- Dr Death Steve Williams/Terry Gordy beat Johnny Ace/Stan Hansen (26:49) after Gordy and Williams hit a second rope spike double doctor bomb on Hansen. A very stiff njpw strong style match, with both Gordy and Williams powering out of Ace’s many cutter attempts. Hansen hit the lariat on Williams but he kicked out. Show ended with Gordy and Williams celebrating in the ring with the trophy, with no sign of William’s horseman colleagues.****

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I would have kept sting in the hunt, and have him get his rematch after getting screwed out of the title. Or would have had the winner of the Steamboat/Muta feud go on to get a title shot.

 

I like the NJPW connection, but i wouldn't book a virtual uknown to the current WCW fans in the main event of the biggest PPV and expect people to want him to beat Flair. It would be different if NJPW guys were appearing on shows before this and the fans really took to Fujinami.

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

What happens when you reach 99 and guys like Jericho leave? Are you gonna book it so they actually leave or are you gonna use them properly and then they don't want to leave? I would suggest booking it as if they were leaving anyways, but it will get hard if you ever get to late 00 and the roster is pretty much crap.

 

hmmm I may have them leave at the times that they really did leave, only achieve more with them before they go... maybe a Jericho who won the US title at Starrcade 98 would be more likely to return to WCW in early 2000 after becoming dellusioned by having to job to Chyna repeatedly in late 99.....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Jericho couldn't come back until either 2001 or 2002, has he signed a two or three year deal.

 

This has been interesting to read, but the booking hasn't been very realistic or logical in places, and I'd take issue with these points:

 

A Texas Death match would never be given away on free tv, especially on the same show as a falls count anywhere match.

 

The back-to-back-to-back World tag title changes would never have happened. One short term title reign might happen, but not two.

 

The Road Warriors losing a Chicago Street Fight would never happen. They really didn't like doing jobs as it is, but there is zero chance they would have agreed to lose a Chicago Street Fight.

 

Similar deal in regards to the Skyscrapers losing to the Andersons. No way Sid does a job without being protected a lot more than that. His ego wouldn't allow him to lose off of just a lowblow. He'd have thrown a huge fit, and demanded more.

 

If Zenk is not a heel, then there never would be a babyface v babyface title match.

 

Bam Bam would never job on tv, over working in Japan. He'd lose by countout or DQ, but he'd never agree to lose via pinfall, even if it was a fluke loss.

 

Sting using the Scorpion Death Drop. I can see why you did it, but it wouldn't have happened in 1990.

 

Muta going 57 minutes would never be ****3/4. Muto, yes, but not Muta.

 

The Hansen debut on Luger would never happen like that, and he absolutely would not have used a tope suicida.

 

Cactus/Sullivan v Nasties? Again, I can see why you did it, but it just reeks of booking stuff from the future for no reason other than because you can.

 

Bam Bam wouldn't job on tv, and he absolutely wouldn't job on PPV. With the guys in from Japan, like BBB and Hansen, they would never job clean, and the best you would be able to get out of them is a highly disputed finish. like with the Hansen v Luger Texas Lariat match at Starrcade 1990.

 

Johnny Ace using the Ace Crusher? Pass. He didn't use that until Japan, and again it's that booking future stuff now just because you can.

 

 

Like I said, it's been interesting to read, but there have been too many booking decisions that have been unrealistic or illogical for me to really get into it.

[Guest jm29195]

Ok cheers for the constructive criticism, especially HTQ, just out of interest what is/was the move that Hansen used to move, I'm pretty sure it was the diving headbutt through the ropes that Benoit uses but I've probably got the name wrong in tope suicida... I'll take what you've said on board and use it towards booking in 91 (never done this before so you'll have to expect one or two glitches!)

cheers

James

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

It was a diving headbutt/lariat like move, but he wouldn't have done it in the US. He didn't have to. All he had to do was brawl away, so he had no need to pull out the big stuff.

[Guest jm29195]

Clash of The Champions XIV

January 1991

Gainesville, GA

 

 

 

- Opening interview with Ric Flair and NWA Governing Board, whoever got the winning pinfall in the tag main event that evening would receive a World Heavyweight Title Shot at the inaugural Superbrawl PPV

 

- Lex Luger/Bam Bam Bigelow w/Harley Race beat Doom (9:44) in a

match to decide top contendership for the tag belts. Match ended when Bigelow moonsaulted Reed. Doom broke up after the match with Simmons accusing Reed of not pulling his weight.**

 

- The winners of the next two matches would then wrestle each other at Wrestlewar to gain a shot to wrestle US Champion Vader later on the same card

 

- Brian Pillman beat Cactus Jack (12:57) after hitting the pillmanizer. Again Pillman took a lot of punishment from the bigger man, but this time managed to pull off the victory.**

 

- Vader was shown looking on from the backstage area

 

- The Great Muta beat Barry Windham (11:52) after a moonsault***

 

- Sid beat Arn Anderson (4:23) following a powerbomb. After the match the Skyscrapers challenged Windham and Anderson to a match at Superbrawl, if they lost, then they would never team again, but if they won then they would get five minutes with Ole Anderson and a tyre iron.1/2*

 

- An interview aired with The Road Warriors, Hawk challenged Ace and Hansen to a match at Superbrawl to prove that their defeat at Starrcade was just a fluke, and that Animal would also show this in the next match.

 

- Johnny Ace w/Hansen beat Road Warrior Animal w/Hawk (5:45) with the Ace Crusher. Ace held his own through the match and got the win by countering a shoulder tackle into the crusher.

 

- The Steiner Bros beat Steve Williams and Terry Gordy (15:00) after Scott Steiner frankensteined Gordy. Scott Steiner now receives a shot at NWA World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair at the first Superbrawl PPV

[Jericholic82 0]

What happens when you reach 99 and guys like Jericho leave? Are you gonna book it so they actually leave or are you gonna use them properly and then they don't want to leave? I would suggest booking it as if they were leaving anyways, but it will get hard if you ever get to late 00 and the roster is pretty much crap.

 

hmmm I may have them leave at the times that they really did leave, only achieve more with them before they go... maybe a Jericho who won the US title at Starrcade 98 would be more likely to return to WCW in early 2000 after becoming dellusioned by having to job to Chyna repeatedly in late 99.....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Jericho couldn't come back until either 2001 or 2002, has he signed a two or three year deal.

 

This has been interesting to read, but the booking hasn't been very realistic or logical in places, and I'd take issue with these points:

 

A Texas Death match would never be given away on free tv, especially on the same show as a falls count anywhere match.

 

The back-to-back-to-back World tag title changes would never have happened. One short term title reign might happen, but not two.

 

The Road Warriors losing a Chicago Street Fight would never happen. They really didn't like doing jobs as it is, but there is zero chance they would have agreed to lose a Chicago Street Fight.

 

Similar deal in regards to the Skyscrapers losing to the Andersons. No way Sid does a job without being protected a lot more than that. His ego wouldn't allow him to lose off of just a lowblow. He'd have thrown a huge fit, and demanded more.

 

If Zenk is not a heel, then there never would be a babyface v babyface title match.

 

Bam Bam would never job on tv, over working in Japan. He'd lose by countout or DQ, but he'd never agree to lose via pinfall, even if it was a fluke loss.

 

Sting using the Scorpion Death Drop. I can see why you did it, but it wouldn't have happened in 1990.

 

Muta going 57 minutes would never be ****3/4. Muto, yes, but not Muta.

 

The Hansen debut on Luger would never happen like that, and he absolutely would not have used a tope suicida.

 

Cactus/Sullivan v Nasties? Again, I can see why you did it, but it just reeks of booking stuff from the future for no reason other than because you can.

 

Bam Bam wouldn't job on tv, and he absolutely wouldn't job on PPV. With the guys in from Japan, like BBB and Hansen, they would never job clean, and the best you would be able to get out of them is a highly disputed finish. like with the Hansen v Luger Texas Lariat match at Starrcade 1990.

 

Johnny Ace using the Ace Crusher? Pass. He didn't use that until Japan, and again it's that booking future stuff now just because you can.

 

 

Like I said, it's been interesting to read, but there have been too many booking decisions that have been unrealistic or illogical for me to really get into it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There have been face vs face title matches before. heel pillman beat zenk in a lightweight title match at wrestlewar 92 with both of them faces.

 

But I will admit he is relying on moves that people didnt use then like sting using the scorpion deathdrop (he didnt do that until he was crow sting) and bigelow using greetings from asbury park.

 

but since this is fantasy booking, we shouldnt be too harsh on him.

 

in any event its been a great read and you showed some brilliant ideas IMO.

[Guest jm29195]

Notes taken from last week in January 1991 Wrestling Obsever Newsletter

 

 

Rhodes/Rhodes heading back to WCW?

 

 

After what many saw as an unsatifactory run in the WWF, it is almost certain that Dusty and Dustin Rhodes will be returning to the NWA. Talks, headed by chief booker Jim Ross, have already taken place with the onle opposition so far being from reigning heavyweight champion Ric Flair. If everything is sorted out, expect the pair to return as soon as the Superbrawl PPV

 

Doubles Champs defecting?

 

 

In a shocking move, WCW Tag champions The Nasty Boys, have entered negotiations with the WWF about entering for Wrestlemania 7. It seems that the Nasty Boys were working on a short term contract and have been offered a considerable raise and push to jump ship. It is unknown as to what WCW's response will be for this but expect the champs to at least honour their upcoming ppv booking.

 

Scott Steiner to recieve major long term push?

 

 

There has been considerable interest from both Jim Ross and Ric Flair , in having the ultra talented Scott Steiner work an extended program Ric Flair. It is unknown if this will result in Steiner winning the belt, and Steiner himself is undecided as to whether he will give up his tag role with brother Rick. His decision, it is said, comes down to how Rick is treated as a singles player if Scott is pushed to the moon.

 

More NJPW Talent Inbound

 

 

Both NWA and NJPW officials were very happy as to how the Japanese participation at Starrcade went so expect more NJPW wrestlers over during the Summer months, whilst NJPW has expressed a strong interest in luring the already popular Gordy/Williams team over for a few months.

[Guest jm29195]

If anyone could answer these queries for me I'd be very grateful:-

 

When did Bigelow start using 'Greetings from Ansbury Park' and what was his finisher before then, a moonsault?

 

Has Keiji Mutoh ever wrestled as himself outside of Japan?

 

Did Ricky Steamboat have a regualr finsihing manouver?

 

When did Steve Austin first enter WCW, I belive it was around 1990, but that he wasn't used much although he was the TV Champ- does this belt exist around the period I am booking and if not, when and how did it come into existance?

 

 

To clear up the Johnny Ace thing with the Ace Crusher, I am using a move that he made famous to make Ace a star in much the same way that DDP used it in 96/97- the difference being that Ace originated the move, him using it a bit earlier doesn't change that much but I thought it would be a nice touch to justify the push I'm giving him, rather than just giving him a made up move (as I am with Pillman)

 

cheers

James

[Hunter's Torn Quad 0]

Bigelow started using the GfAP in ECW in 1997.

 

I don't believe Muto as ever wrestled as himself outside of Japan, but I might be wrong on that.

 

Steamboat's finisher was usually a flying bodypress off the top rope.

 

Autin debuted in WCW in June of 1991, and won the TV title almost right away. The TV title was around in this time period.

[Guest jm29195]

Superbrawl 1

February 1991

Detroit, Michigan

 

 

- In the opening interview, a fired up Scott Steiner, to a booming hometown crowd reaction, said that he would win the belt tonight for the people of Michigan, it was noted that Steiner’s family was in the front row.

 

- The Great Muta beat Brian Pillman (26:23) following the moonsault. Muta is now the recipient of a match with US champ Vader later on in the card. After the match, Pillman turned on Muta and levelled him with the pillmanizer, angrily leaving through the crowd before security could catch him.****

 

- Video aired for Ricky Steamboat, he will be making his televised return at the next Clash

 

- Lex Luger/Bam Bam Bigelow beat The Nasty Boys (4:24) for the WCW tag belts after Luger Racked Saggs and Bigelow moonsaulted Knobbs. A total squash anticipating the Nasty Boy’s impending departure to the WWF *

 

- Rick Steiner beat Cactus Jack (8:23) following a modified powerslam suplex. Cactus Jack was his usual bumping-maniac self and made Steiner look like a million dollars on the way to victory.**

 

- Johnny Ace/’Lariat’ Stan Hansen beat the Road Warriors (20:19) after Ace Ace -Cuttered Animal. (Hansen and Hawk had brawled out through the crowd. After the match Animal raised Ace’s hand to show that he had gained his respect.***

 

- Interview segment with the Debuting Marc Mero, he has the amateur boxer turned pro wrestler gimmick (Jim Ross TM)

 

- Sting beat Ron Simmons (8:24) after Butch Reed interfered and allowed Sting to unknowingly pick up the tainted victory. After the match Sting was attacked by the returning Nikita Koloff**

 

- Barry Windham and Arn Anderson beat The Skyscrapers (15:24) after Windham pinned Spivey following the jumping implant ddt. Despite the loss, Sid went nuts and delivered chokeslams and powerbombs to Windham, Anderson, Ole, and then his partner Dan Spivey. Steve Williams ran down to the ring and the 2 big men squared off before being separated by security**

 

- The Great Muta beat Big Van Vader (15:14) following a moonsault, to become the new US Champ. Vader destroyed Muta’s leg throughout the match and Muta was very much played as the underdog. However Muta sealed the win with a last gasp desperation moonsault. ***1/2

 

- Scott Steiner beat Ric Flair (45:23) with a frankensteiner to become the new NWA World Heavyweight Champion. The show ended with Scott being joined by his brother and family in the ring and both celebrating with the belt in front of their hometown crowd. *****

[Jericholic82 0]

Michigan, Ohio?

 

anyhow you mean superbrawl in 91 and wm 7 when talking of the nasty boys. no bigee just an obvious typo.

 

I'm liking this more and more, epsecially cool to have the observer notes.

 

and nice tease of animal and ace.

 

the steiner/flair match would have been truly awesome.

[Guest jm29195]

Michigan, Ohio?

 

anyhow you mean superbrawl in 91 and wm 7 when talking of the nasty boys. no bigee just an obvious typo.

 

I'm liking this more and more, epsecially cool to have the observer notes.

 

and nice tease of animal and ace.

 

the steiner/flair match would have been truly awesome.

 

 

 

Cheers man, it was really late over here when I did that one and my knowledge of US Geography is somewhat shaky at the best of times!

 

 

NB:Have corrected those mistakes now!