Guest Report post Posted May 23, 2002 there is a pretty interesting argument going on that Raw Is Crap, and people are using the shit ratings to back it up. look, Raw was fresh and pretty original, but that doesn't mean it was good. But my point is, do you want to know why this week's rating was so bad? It's because after the two-headed aborted fetus that was last week's RAW, people immediatly put big post-its on thier TV screen that said "Don't watch that shitty wrestling show next week". Meanwhile, if nest week gets high(er) ratings, it will probably be becuase people by and large enjoyed this week's show, and decided to see where they go with it next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Great Wesuke Report post Posted May 23, 2002 By all accounts ratings should increase just because of the fact that most shows have gone into repeats for the summer. If there is a ratings jump you will know why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Yeah, but in Rollerball, whenever something "exciting" happened, the viewer numbers increased. See, audiences are telepathic, and since they ignore RAW, it means that RAW is crappy and they sense that telepathically. Right? Right? Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted May 23, 2002 I agree, more or less. The rating would have been in that general vicinity regardless of how good the show was. It's the same with the WrestleMania buyrate; two years ago, a Rock-Hogan main event would have shattered all records, good undercard or not. But there simply isn't the same interest in wrestling right now. They're basically just going to have to accept that the ratings aren't going to be in the 5s for a while and try to build something despite that. All of this changing directions, dropping feuds, etc. just because they don't pop a good rating the first week out is going to ensure that they never get good ratings ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Eric Bischoff has brainwashed the internet as a whole into thinking that TV ratings are the be-all, end-all of a wrestling company. The fact is that they matter little except to the networks themselves since they sell advertising based on them. And of course, despite the "bad" ratings, the WWF is still the #1 show on TNN and #1 or 2 (depending on Enterprise's weekly numbers) on UPN. The WWF at this point should be much more concerned with declines in PPV buys, house show attendance, and merchandising (although I'm not sure if there even are any there, I'm guessing there are though) since those are higher profit revenue streams for them than TV is. I'll hold out on any more specific statements until I see their quarterly earnings report, although I imagine it will be good with WMs massive numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest y2jailbait Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Yeah, ratings cant be the measure of success for a company, its should be ONE of the determines, but not the be-all, end-all of your companies success. I mean Raw was putting out some good shows in late 96 with some good quality main events, but the ratings were crap. Sunday Night Heat has put together a good number of great matchups latley, but the ratings will never show that. If the ratings were everything, like they are in Network TV, then we'd see great shows like Dark Angel being taken off the air! Oh wait, nevermind................................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Ratings don't mean a thing, just buyrates, sales, and attendance. That said, rating are usually a good reflection of how well you're doing in that end, even though 2000 proved differently. But ratings are reflective of trends, so you can't just take the ratings from one night and compare it to that night, you have to look at trends. The handicap on a show is usually at least a week, maybe even more when people are doubtful that changes are really going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted May 23, 2002 I wish for the days when you didnt know what a buyrate was and you didn't care about what a ratings point equaled. Those were the days.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 23, 2002 I wish for the days when you didnt know what a buyrate was and you didn't care about what a ratings point equaled. Those were the days.. Ditto.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted May 23, 2002 What's a buyrate? (continues enjoying feigned ignorance-slash-bliss) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Ratings don't mean a thing, just buyrates, sales, and attendance. Yes, but rating TRENDS and post-PPV ratings do mean something. The Raw ratings have been on the decline for at least the past 4 weeks...indicating waning interest. This week's post-PPV rating was lower than last week's. This means people didn't care enough to find out the results or see the new storylines. While buyrates, sales, and attendance have a more immediate impact, rating trends can predict the impact in the long-run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 23, 2002 Ratings don't mean shit to us the fans and they shouldn't. The problem is Vince cares about them. Lets just hope he doesn't see ratings dropped then decides to scrap the good start at making changes and do something drastic for ratings right now. Vince doing something as nothing but a ploy for ratings that just aren't there could be a bad thing for us all. Sure Raw was nothing amazing but it was a step in the right direction. So hopefully they just build from this decent start and don't go for quick "solutions" that won't help that much. :coughnwocoughhogancoughcoldbeercoughcough: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sykotic2002 Report post Posted May 24, 2002 Ratings do mean something. If ratings are done, then buyrates will be down. But, that's a company problem. I just want to see a good show and we aren't getting that from Raw right now. I don't see ratings going up in the summer with all the shows in rerun if the product is better. Smackdown isn't that bad, but Raw is horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted May 24, 2002 Two things: 1. Lower ratings mean less advertising dollars. Less advertising dollars means TV networks are less likely to keep a show running. 2. Summer could be a good time for ratings to pick up. Since most networks show reruns now, RAW and Smackdown (being fresh and new programming) could see a steady rise in viewership, depending on the quality of the shows. Of course, more people, especially you young'uns are more inclined to enjoy the night sky than sit at home watching half-naked men throw each other around. So it could go either way. As long as they do one thing: DON'T SIGN GOLDBERG!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
