bob dylan

[Annabelle 0]

we should start talking about this now. with the new pbs special which came out on dvd today. hype for an oscar for this movie? there's going to be a bob dylan rennaisance, and rightfully so. maybe everyone should buy or download an album to talk about him. especially watch the documentary. not only does it discuss dylan's life up until 1966, it summarizes his significance in american culture. how he adopted his revolutionary spirit for the nyc beatniks & brought to the mainstream which led to this influx of watered down political singers. he kinda defines the baby boom culture in america. but anyway, heightened awareness should be given to this man. much of his work is still relevent today with many contentious world issues & events raging on. discuss this man.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Saw today that the soundtrack is Bootleg Series #7. Worth it?

 

Everytime I listen to Blood on the Tracks or Blonde on Blonde, it is my favorite album for as long as I'm listening to it.

[Annabelle 0]

actually, yes.

 

the second disk actually has notable alternate versions of popular songs. like an electric version os desolation row & acoustic subterranean homesick blues. plus it has several notable live tracks from his infamous 1966 tour. its a good starting place for people to check out before jumping into any of his other bootleg offerings. you'll get a better idea of what i am talking about after watching the pbs show next week. you'll hear many of the tracks in that. and it helps explain the significance of many, especially like a rolling stone from the royal albert hall.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I have 4 and 5 (Live 1966 and Live 1975), which are both superb. Actually, #5 is probably the Dylan album I end up listening to most often.

[Hank Kingsley 0]

"Like a Rolling Stone" will always be my favorite Dylan, but "Buckets of Rain" and "Girl from North Country" are moving up there.

[Annabelle 0]

I have 4 and 5 (Live 1966 and Live 1975), which are both superb.  Actually, #5 is probably the Dylan album I end up listening to most often.

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i used to like that one the most, too. but since i have been listening to his older stuff, i find some of his 1975 interpretations to be lacking. especially the lonesome death of hattie carroll. the '75 version is atrocious. but i still really like desire, so the songs from that version sound nice. they have like a rollingstone from 1966 complete with the JUDAS yelling at the beginning, as opposed to scrolling through the song before it to get the entire vibe of the track. i really enjoyed vol. 6 1964 as well. its bob at his most lucid & jovial. all of his greatest acoustic tracks are on it, although the second disk starts to suffer with too much baez.

[Ravenbomb 0]

hype for an oscar for this movie?

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Scorsese directed it, no way it's gonna win anything

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Did it play in theaters first? If not, it won't get any Oscar attention.

 

I'll definitely watch this when it airs next week, but a small part of me fears it's going to turn into one of those talking head pieces where a bunch of people praise Dylan's genius without adding anything else of note. I'm sure Marty won't go the cheap route, but still.

[Annabelle 0]

Did it play in theaters first? If not, it won't get any Oscar attention.

 

I'll definitely watch this when it airs next week, but a small part of me fears it's going to turn into one of those talking head pieces where a bunch of people praise Dylan's genius without adding anything else of note. I'm sure Marty won't go the cheap route, but still.

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it played at select theatres, but no actual release.

 

the entire thing is actually narrated by Dylan himself. its all from his point of you, rather than the regurgitation of other critics opinion. in fact, there are no critics interviewed whatsoever. just Dylan & his fellow artists. you never even hear scorcese ask any questions. its surreal hearing bob tell his own story, his mindset, and his goal - even if at may be from a revisionist point of view. even more surreal is that bob smiles, laughs, and jokes a bit in it. not a lot, but really, has there ever been a film or anything that has made Dylan seem human? as opposed to this deranged, drug addled, eccentric asshole which is he is mostly characterized as.

[Annabelle 0]

i finished this last night. the most comical part is a visibly wrecked johnny cash duetting with dylan for about 20 seconds. he's about to tip over with each word he sings.

 

the film itself is actually quite powerful. i am eager to discuss it with everyone once they see it.

[The Czech Republic 0]

I respect Bob Dylan for his songwriting prowess and undeniable impact on American culture, but I don't really like to listen to him.

 

 

 

"czech republic is the worst poster ever. never come in the music folder again. unless you talk about the smiths. faggot."

[Annabelle 0]

i've never made a single snipe at you about the smiths. the rest is all true. actually i wouldn't have said anything bad because your first sentence states the truth while the other is a preference. while the thin line between the two can be blurred, especially when i am judging, i can understand why people don't like to listen to his folk stuff. blonde on blonde? you have to like that.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Yeah. I play "I Want You" and "Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again" for people who tell me they don't like Bob Dylan, and that changes things pretty quickly.

[The Czech Republic 0]

Yeah, but then I hear "Everybody Must Get Stoned" and it undoes everything.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

You mean "Rainy Day Women #12 and 35." Which I like, but I'll admit it's an acquired taste.

 

Czech, listen to Highway 61 Revisited. Again and again.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I need more Dylan. I've got some double disc greatest hits ordeal which has ones I like and ones I don't. I need a complete piece of something. Go.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Depends on what era Dylan you prefer.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

The pissed off one.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Well, then you can't go wrong with any of his pre-electric material, with specific focus on The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and The Times They Are a Changin'. Personally, I'd go with Another Side of Bob Dylan (my favorite pre-electric album, though it isn't such a pissed-off album).

 

Bringing It All Back Home still finds him damning the man, and is a great album, to boot. Then there's the aforementioned Highway 61 Revisited, which, among many, many highlights, features the angry stomp of "Tombstone Blues," a song that's both country and punk fucking rock. Ya know, cow punk.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

"Idiot Wind" is the biggest "fuck you" Dylan ever put to wax, though the album from which it's culled, Blood On the Tracks, is more sad than angry. Still, it's really, really good.

[Annabelle 0]

i'd say highway 61 revisted is his angriest album. his angriest song is masters of war. his best album is blonde on blonde. and his best song is sooner or later from blonde on blonde. close with sad eyed lady of the lowlands & the aforementioned iiiiidiot wiiind.

 

favorite albums in order

 

1. blonde on blonde

2. highway 61 revisted

3. blood on the tracks

4. bringing it all back home

5. the times they are a-changin

 

another side of bob dylan & nashville skyline are about being in love. blonde on blonde, blood on the tracks, & desire are about being out of love. freewheeling & times are a-changing are political. john wesley harding & nashville skyline are just plain old country. bringing it all back home combines it all.

 

there's all of his best shit right there.

[Annabelle 0]

highway 61 revisted is both his loudest & angriest, to boot. lyrically, for an amateur like me, its the most confusing & complex.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Yeah, but then I hear "Everybody Must Get Stoned" and it undoes everything.

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There's not a song on this earth that can undo "I Want You."

 

Which, incidentally, makes me want to start a thread.

[Annabelle 0]

so simple, yet so effective. pretty much summizes that entire album. it seemed so effortless.

[godthedog 0]

1. blonde on blonde

2. blood on the tracks

3. another side of bob dylan

4. highway 61 revisited

5. time out of mind

 

dylan's overall roughness seems to be the thing that turns people off the most initially (not JUST his voice, but that his albums tend to sound thrown-together without any regard for polish or anything), but that's what i love most about him. by nature the approach is going to be pretty hit-or-miss, but there's a cool mercurial energy to it that you can't capture if you do it another way. all through the 60s dylan was just a fountain of pure unregulated talent and sheer energy who didn't really seem to care about anything other than just creating something. didn't matter what: just keep writing, record it as quickly as you can, move on without thinking about it. 'another side of bob dylan' and 'blonde on blonde' both sound like they were recorded in like 3 days.

 

something really rare to find in a studio record, especially with the rise of phil spector, the beatles, etc. dylan cared about that rawness; it's just as important an element of his songwriting as his recording (especially once he gets to his period of spewing out imagery indiscriminantly like "desolation row" and "stuck inside of mobile"), and i don't think it gets enough attention.

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'another side of bob dylan' and 'blonde on blonde' both sound like they were recorded in like 3 days.

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For the record, 'Another Side Of' was recorded in a single night in June 1964.

 

Where's the love for 'John Wesley Harding'?

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

This is on at 9. I'm pledging my time.

 

 

 

ZING!

[Annabelle 0]

This is on at 9.  I'm pledging my time.

 

 

 

ZING!

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bob dylan jokes are fun.

 

watch this, people.

[Hank Kingsley 0]

Blood on the Tracks was my first Dylan and probably my personal favorite, but I agree with Blonde on Blonde as his best work.

 

And I'm liking the documentary so far.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Fuck, I missed this.