Guest Risk Report post Posted May 25, 2002 We all know WWE needs improving. The following are my opinions and ideas on how to improve the company. First off, some talent needs to be let go. Either because of attitude problems, unsatisfactory work, or retirement. Here is the list for these individuals. Hulk Hogan Kevin Nash DDP Triple H Stephanie McMahon X-Pac Taker Crash Bob Holly Albert Big Show Billy Gunn Rikishi Godfather Faarooq Test Tazz Michael Cole The Rock Scotty 2 Hotty Maven Mark Henry Bubba Ray Dudley The Bossman Edge Justin Credible William Regal Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy Lita Terri Steven Richards Bradshaw Kane Brian Gerwitz Debra Shawn Michaels Now, we need to hire some wrestlers and bring in some developmental talent. Here is that list. American Dragon Low-Ki Michael Modest Joey Styles Don Callis Mike Tenay Super Dragon Lodi Lenny Lane Jerry Lynn Shark Boy Christopher Daniels Nova RC Haas Jamie Knoble Shannon Moore Mark Jindrak Sean O'Haire Reno Johnny the Bull EZ Money AJ Styles Ekmo Kimo Shelton Benjamin Next we need writers and bookers. No wrestlers on this list would wrestle again after joining. Paul Heyman Arn Anderson Raven Tommy Dreamer Ric Flair Steve Austin Johnny Ace Terry Taylor Dean Malenko Finally, we have the titles. I would only use four: Undisputed, IC, Cruiserweight, and Tag Team. Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted May 25, 2002 Hulk Hogan Kevin Nash DDP Triple H Stephanie McMahon X-Pac Taker Crash Bob Holly Albert Big Show Billy Gunn Rikishi Godfather Faarooq Test Tazz Michael Cole The Rock Scotty 2 Hotty Maven Mark Henry Bubba Ray Dudley The Bossman Edge Justin Credible William Regal Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy Lita Terri Steven Richards Bradshaw Kane Brian Gerwitz Debra Shawn Michaels Now, we need to hire some wrestlers and bring in some developmental talent. Here is that list. American Dragon Low-Ki Michael Modest Joey Styles Don Callis Mike Tenay Super Dragon Lodi Lenny Lane Jerry Lynn Shark Boy Christopher Daniels Nova RC Haas Jamie Knoble Shannon Moore Mark Jindrak Sean O'Haire Reno Johnny the Bull EZ Money AJ Styles Ekmo Kimo Shelton Benjamin Next we need writers and bookers. No wrestlers on this list would wrestle again after joining. Paul Heyman Arn Anderson Raven Tommy Dreamer Ric Flair Steve Austin Johnny Ace Terry Taylor Dean Malenko Finally, we have the titles. I would only use four: Undisputed, IC, Cruiserweight, and Tag Team. Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas? Listen: 1) laying off half the roster isn't the solution. With a roster this full and loaded with talent, there should be a way to use all of them affectively. Hell, even Nash's hair-flipping skills make him worth keeping. Hiring lots of no-name guys that no one knows about and expect that to make up for lossing their entire roster is a bit overzealous, to say the very list. 2) Several of those you mentioned are already under WWE contract, or are under contract with different promotions, so "bringing them in" is impossible. 3) Nova? Kimo? Good grief, if you're going to be irrational at least drop names of wreslters who can actually work. I mean, KIMO?! This hurts me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 25, 2002 The best bet to improve the product is simple. Give your wrestlers either gimmicks or charcters. Develop them. Allow them to work their own styles, develop an in-ring product that is diverse. Allow each feud ample time to build. Give them a good, logical pay-off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 25, 2002 They could also try pushing Angle... Okay, I should just forget about that ever happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted May 25, 2002 They could also try pushing Angle... Okay, I should just forget about that ever happening. Go ahead. Once you forget how to use rational thought there's no point, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 25, 2002 You're not calling the Maven feud a push, are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 25, 2002 Here is what I think of your list: Hulk Hogan-he definitely needs to retire, he should have a long time ago Kevin Nash-same here DDP-i think he still has a couple more years left in him if he works through this current injury Triple H-why fire this guy? hes young, charismatic, and a great star, the only problem is his girlfriend and himself are on the booking committee Stephanie McMahon-she doesn't need to be fired, just move her to the marketing department or something X-Pac-i agree, hes useless Taker-he needs to retire soon, his time is up Crash-useless, he should be released Bob Holly-useless also Albert-not over, never going to be over, release him Big Show-he is over with the fans, keep him Billy Gunn-useless, release him Rikishi-not bad for a big man, but i don't like his current gimmick, he really shouldn't be released Godfather-release him Faarooq-don't release him, its been reported that he wants to become a road agent, let him Test-best bigman in the businness wrestling wise, he just needs to get some charisma, send him to ovw, but don't release him Tazz-he sucks in the ring now, since becoming a fatass, but he rarely wrestles and is a commentator instead, i don't see a reason to fire him Michael Cole-he sucks, but who else does wwf have to put in the commentary position? The Rock-why is he on here?, hes the most famous wrestler today and is bringing in huge money Scotty 2 Hotty-pretty useless in his current gimmick, should wait and see how they bring him back Maven-why fire this guy? Mark Henry-they should release him even though he is a nice guy Bubba Ray Dudley-again, why fire this guy? he is entertaining The Bossman-he should be fired Edge-decent midcarder even though i find him boring, no reason to fire him Justin Credible-useless, fire him William Regal-people dont want to see this guy on tv, but he is a company man and has done what is asked, should send him to a developmental territory to help train Matt Hardy-why fire him? Jeff Hardy-why fire him? Lita-why fire her? she is the most over woman they have Terri-retire her Steven Richards-could be released, noone would care Bradshaw-sucks in the ring, cuts a good promo in his home state, not much else, release him Kane-still really over, they just need to alter his gimmick so he doesn't have the mask, no reason to fire him Brian Gerwitz-writes alot of the comedy stuff, some of it is hit and miss, i would have to know which segments he writes before i could give an opinion Debra-useless, release her Shawn Michaels-useless, release him guys you said to bring in: American Dragon-haven't seen him so i dont know Low-Ki-has a good look, good wrestling skills, and good mic skills, sign him Michael Modest-getting older, going bald, has a plain look, they shouldn't hire him Joey Styles-hire him, he could replace cole Don Callis-haven't heard enough on him on commentary to know Mike Tenay-signed with nwatna, can't bring him in Super Dragon-never seen him Lodi-should be brought in to do the current gay gimmick Lenny Lane-should be brought in to do the current gay gimmick Jerry Lynn-never really gave him a chance, rehire him and give him another Shark Boy-haven't seen enough to know Christopher Daniels-has a pretty good look and is an awesome wrestler, sign him Nova-he is coming in soon, they just signed him and put him in ovw RC Haas-never had a chance to see this guy wrestle Jamie Knoble-he was awesome in wcw and is sort of like a smaller benoit, he has already been brought up and is wrestling house shows now Shannon Moore-also brought up and already working house shows Mark Jindrak-this guy was really green and didnt really show any charisma or anything special in the ring, needs to stay in ovw for now Sean O'Haire-also really green, but has a great look and intensity, should be brought up soon Reno-sucks, dont bring him in Johnny the Bull-was really injury prone in wcw, but he seemed to be pretty good in the ring, i would like to see him continue his italian gimmick in wwf EZ Money-haven't seen much, but from what i saw he seemed like a RVD clone AJ Styles-has a decent look and works awesome matches, but he turned down wwe's offer and is now signed to nwatna Ekmo-dont know who this is Kimo-dont know who this is Shelton Benjamin-never seen him wrestle, but from his ovw pictures he looks like a cross between elix skipper and kenny from tough enough 2, i don't know if they should bring him up yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 25, 2002 You want to fire Michaels but keep test? Michaels is a bigger name, has more charisma, is OVER, has mic skills, and is a better wrestler than Test even now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 25, 2002 But they're never going to be able to tap into Michaels because he's too much of an egotistical ass. At least an occasion Test is of some worth and can wrestle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 25, 2002 At least an occasion Test is of some worth and can wrestle. ::Directs Brian to all the failed Test pushes over the last two and a half years:: He's of some worth, huh? ::Directs Brian to every match Test has had in the last two and a half years:: He can wrestle, huh? Michaels could be in traction and he is still worth more than test is healthy. Just lay the law down and everything will be fine. Or, they could just look away like they do with HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 25, 2002 Joey Styles-hire him, he could replace cole Im not 100% on this, but i think he means the wrestler. He's signed for NWA though; And anyway, the OTHER Joey said he'd never work for the Dubya-F. Nez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 25, 2002 There is no wrestler named Joey Styles. You are thinking of AJ Styles. Joey Styles has no problem working for the WWE either. He was going to go there during the invasion, but Vince wouldn't pay him enough money for it to be worth quitting his current job for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 25, 2002 Ah, yes, thanks for clearing that all up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 25, 2002 Test was on my firing list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 25, 2002 If Test hadn't been pushed like he had in the past, would you still react to him in the same way? Michaels brings along alot of extra responsibility from staff, a big mouth, a disruptive presence, a lot of swagger and arrogance, and a high price tag, plus the volatility that generally has made him almost unusable as an active talent. Geez, I'd take Test anyday over that, despite the fact that Test has decent mic work and ring presence, despite the fact he's failed as a main eventer. With all the risk factors and the bullshit that Michaels brings, it's never worth it. Compare that to Test, who isn't disruptive, who at least they can use. Michaels is next to inaccessable. And est is cheap in comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheyCallMeMark Report post Posted May 25, 2002 I don't think the answer is to fire everyone. I don't know how to fix it (though increasing match lengths seems OBVIOUS). But I think I'll follow suit and critique your picks for firing. I think the answer is to push RVD, Edge and Beniot when he gets back, personally. Maybe Jericho but I think it's going to take time to rebuild him. HHH must realize he's not doing well, The Rock is barley around, Angle is leaving in the winter to try out for the Olympics... The Main Event scene is dwindling. Hulk Hogan - He's over, and should be let go soon, but not immidiatly. Triple H - He works OK and is very, very over. Stephanie McMahon - She gets good heel heat... Taker - Over, have him give someone the rub before leaving. Big Show - Over, keep him. Billy Gunn - Billy & Chuck is a pretty good team and they have actually had a couple good matches. Rikishi - Very good for a big man, plus he's over. Faarooq - Road agent. Test - This whole Stacy angle seems to be getting him over; wait and see what happens. Tazz - I'm on the fence about this one. Michael Cole - Nobody else to put in his place. The Rock - He's the most over man in wrestling and one of... two proven draws the WWF has? Scotty 2 Hotty - He's over and can work decent matches. Maven - Over, getting alot better. Mark Henry - Good attitude, and I think he's getting over. Bubba Ray Dudley - Good midcarder. Edge - They've just worked for nearly six months pushing this guy and now he's one of the most over people in the company. He's a solid worker, also. William Regal - His promo's are good... Hardyz/Lita - I don't see the point. Kane - Over and can wrestle a good match. American Dragon - Nahh. He's not very charismatic. Low-Ki - Maybe but he's just like bringing in another Hardy. Michael Modest - Maybe. Jerry Lynn - Under contract with Jarret, and in his last interview didn't seem positive about WWE. Shark Boy - Maybe. Christopher Daniels - I don't know why he's not signed. Jamie Knoble - Green. Should go to OVW. Mark Jindrak - Green. Should go to OVW. Sean O'Haire - Semi-green but I thought he had alot of potential. AJ Styles - Just like another Hardy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Son of Sting Report post Posted May 25, 2002 Michaels - i would let him go because they are paying him something like 40G a month and for what? It is money that doesnt need to spent. Hulk Hogan - seeing as he can draw a live crowd but not a TV draw why not stick him on house shows only? and maybe 2 PPVs a year. Kevin Nash - cant decide could be usefull in puting young gys over. DDP - Been damaged to much Triple H - needs to lose some weight Stephanie McMahon - X-Pac - would be an asset in the cruiserweight devision if he got motivated Taker - Areturn to the dark side is that left for him to do and then he should retire Crash - Release Bob Holly - IC level feud maybe or a tag team Albert - will never get over Big Show - A guy his size is always worth having Billy Gunn Rikishi Godfather - never liked all three Faarooq - Test - young and big, i think sending him down to OVW could do him the world of good Tazz Michael Cole - Tazz and Cole are a bad commentry team. Hennan and Cole would much better or my wish would be Hennan and Styles. The Rock - He will proberly never come back so why pay him a wage? Scotty 2 Hotty - If they get serious about the cruisers he is usefull Maven - really needs to HWA or OWA to develop a personality Mark Henry - needs a manager to get over. Maybe pair him Brock and Heyman Bubba Ray Dudley - The fans like him and his work is solid The Bossman - ment to a great guy and isnt he a road agent? Edge - young and over Justin Credible - will never do anything worth while with him so release William Regal - Im a big fan of Regal, he might be better suited as a manger as not many wrestlers work his style Matt Hardy Jeff Hardy Lita - young and over. Im not a fan but it would be stupid to let them go Terri - i dont think she is worth anything wrestling wise Steven Richards - maybe a good paring with someone and could be a worth while tag team Bradshaw - not a fan, they never seem to know what to do with him Kane - Always over, just need to re-tool him Brian Gerwitz Debra - Only employed cause of who her husband his and cause of who it is you cant fire her. Shawn Michaels said already Now, we need to hire some wrestlers and bring in some developmental talent. Here is that list. American Dragon Low-Ki Michael Modest Joey Styles Don Callis Mike Tenay Super Dragon Lodi Lenny Lane - would be valuable in a tag devision Jerry Lynn - big fan Shark Boy - indy level Christopher Daniels Nova - under contract already RC Haas Jamie Knoble - under contract already Shannon Moore - under contract already Mark Jindrak - under contract already Sean O'Haire - under contract already Reno - nothong special Johnny the Bull - i think he is under contract EZ Money AJ Styles - signed with NWA Ekmo Kimo Shelton Benjamin - under contract already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 25, 2002 I thin Hogan's still worth a job to Austin and one person who he's willing to put over, most likely they're building up Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted May 25, 2002 It's seems pretty simple: 1) Longer matches/increased focus on the in-ring product 2) No more 20-minute promos (especially as a ME), except for very special occasions (i.e. Ric Flair actually retiring) 3) Push young/newer faces into the main-event 4) Give guys the freedom to deviate from the "WWE Style" (especially the cruisers) 5) AND BRING BACK ELIX SKIPPER!!! Jamie Knoble - Green. Should go to OVW What? Maven is green, Jamie Knoble is most definitely NOT green. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 26, 2002 My ideas Creative Team - Send Stephanie to the marketing department. She might actually be able to contribute a great deal there. Let Heyman have more influence. I also think it would be a great idea if JR and Flair were involved in the creative aspects. The best years WCW had creativly was the years Flair and Ross ran the creative team Lengthen televised matches. No match shown should be less than 8 minutes unless absolutely necessary (example: squash matches involving Lesnar) Place a greater emphasis on the "new blood" of wrestling, elevating them to top tier positions (Storm, Edge, Angle, a motivated RVD, Jericho, Benoit) Place Steve Austin in a higher position on the card Longer title reigns and a greater emphasis on how important a title means... even in the cruiserweight division. If a title changes hands, it should be treated by the announcers and wrestlers as a very big deal 4 titles: Undisputed, IC, Cruiserweight, Tag Team A greater emphasis on actual wrestling... only the greatest of wrestlers should be allowed to enter the top card (Benoit, Angle, Storm, Austin etc) Hulk Hogan: There is no logical reason to cut him. I don't like the guy either, but some of you are just biased against him (a little too biased actually.) Keep him, let him feud with McMahon for one or two pay per views, then allow him to actually retire. Hype the retirement heavily. Then once he finally rides away into the sunset, give him an office job or let him be a road agent... I actually wouldn't be against using his image on occassion to represent the "spirit" of the WWE (like they have done with Andre in the past) Kevin Nash: Yes, he's horrible in the ring, but he can be great on the mic. I say keep him as the spokesperson for the nWo, allowing him to step in the ring on special occassions but never for a long period of time, and preferably only in tag matches DDP: I like DDP, but I think he should just retire. I know it's heartbreaking because he truly loves wrestling. Whether you like him or not, he represents the best of the locker room because he has a passion for entertaining and I give him props for fighting this injury... but he should be realistic. He needs to retire so he won't risk any more permanant injuries. The WWE should actually make a nice tribute video to him or acknowledge his contributions in some way if he chooses to go this route. (I could even see him being commissioner of one of the brands someday, if they choose to keep him.) HHH: The guy that suggested that he be cut, obviously isn't looking at this realistically. Why? Because he hasn't been putting on **** since he's been back? Austin hasn't been doing that in 6 months or more and no one suggested he be cut. Sure, his matches lately haven't been classics, but they've been watchable, most averaging about *** stars. He has charisma and although no one likes how he never jobs to Jericho, he is still a draw and in the right role (heel) he can be very very useful in the main event. Stephanie McMahon: Moved to another department. There's no way Vince is going to fire one of his kids... I mean, who would? X-Pac: X-Pac has been getting a bad rap for a long time. I don't like him that much, like the average fan... but he's good in the ring and he works hard and can be useful if kept in a stable or a tag team Taker: Needs to retire within the next year (or this year.) Should start putting younger talent over. If they end up booking a Taker vs. RVD main event at King of the Ring (doubtful but Ross is hinting at shakeups to occur soon so it's possible) then he should indeed job the title to RVD and move to a feud with some other younger talent and begin playing the Angle role of "making" people Crash: Useful in comedy roles and in the cruiserweight division Bob Holly: Fans care more about Holly now than they ever have thanks to Tough Enough fame. He would make a good contender in the IC title division Albert: RELEASE him. I can't think of a single positive thing to say about him Big Show: Big Show could be used properly if they kept him in a stable or actually were serious about pushing him as the unstoppable monster... but they won't, so they should probably release him Billy Gunn: His teaming with Chuck Polumbo is the best thing Rockabilly has done in years. Keep him but only in the Billy and Chuck tag team role Rikishi: Release. I know the guy isn't bad for his size, but since some fat has to be cut (no pun intended) then I can only hope they release him if they truly want to cut expenses Godfather: He has no value anymore whatsoever. Release Farooq: He wants to retire soon anyway, so give him a nice sendoff and let him become a road agent Test: I honestly think sending him to OVW would not help. Why? Because he was trained by Bret Hart for God's sake! If Bret couldn't make a great worker out of him, then I doubt Skip will. I do think he's not as bad as everyone on this board thinks. If placed with the right worker, the guy can be carried to a good match (Guerrero at WM.) Keep him in the IC division Tazz: Keep him Michael Cole: Keep him The Rock: Why the hell would they be so stupid to release the biggest star in the company, and why the hell would anyone here want him released? Most likely he's going to quit anyway, but if he doesn't, the guy can be used sparingly. With Rock's popularity right now in the mainstream media, you better believe he would pop some monster buyrates Scotty 2 Hotty: They say his neck was in horrible shape before surgery (I think he's already had surgery... I could be wrong) so the jury is still out on that. If he can come back and can still wrestle watchable matches, I say throw him in the cruiserweight division Maven: Needs to develop a personality and work on vocal training to drop that horribly annoying accent of his. Other than that, he may be green, but he's actually not that bad in the ring. I see potential, and they say his attitude is really great backstage which is a plus Mark Henry: Drop him. Over a year in OVW and it looks like it got him nowhere besides losing weight. The WWF made a big mistake in offering him so much money in the beginning. Buh Buh Ray: I have no problem with him. A good lower midcard talent, and the fans like him, so I see no reason in cutting him. Plus he can always be reunited with Dvon which I would like to see soon to give the tag division a boost... because lets face it, their singles careers will go nowhere Bossman: The definition of "dead weight." Either release him or give him a road agent job Edge: Extremely over and talented (despite what Anglesault will have you believe... but he's just bitter.) Should be pushed to the moon if he can keep the heat he has Justin Credible: Release him William Regal: Should get his old commissioner job back or be used sparingly in the ring... what about using him as a manager? Matt Hardy: A good worker who knows more about psychology and ring work than his brother. Keep him Jeff Hardy: Of no use whatsoever other than to get an Nsync like pop from the stupid ass girls in the audience (and why? He's freakin ugly) Lita: I hate her... I despise her... but she's over. Wait and see what kind of reaction she'll get when she returns in 10 months or so. If she gets a good reaction, keep her, if the fans dont remember her... fire her ugly ass Terri: Release her Steven Richards: If pushed correctly, he would make a respectable IC candidate. Bradshaw: Of no use whatsoever. Release him Kane: Was just getting interesting... when he comes back, let him lose the mask, using the old Plastic Surgery excuse and let him explore his character Debra: She isn't used much anyway so I don't have a problem with her Shawn Michaels: They need to decide whether they're going to use him or not. If they choose not to, release him, if they can fit him into a good program that will draw, keep him. Wrestlers whom I think would be great additions AJ Style: Imagine the matches he could have with Van Dam Jason Jett: Remember this guy from the last month of WCW? Christopher Daniels Modest Kid Kash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bcu1979 Report post Posted May 26, 2002 I thin Hogan's still worth a job to Austin and one person who he's willing to put over, most likely they're building up Jericho. As much as I would love to believe they are building up Jericho to get some big win over Hogan, I just don't see it. The only thing they appear to be building Jericho up for is either a swift kick out the door or another run with the cruiserweight belt. The HITC match didn't even make him look tougher. They had him running around on Smackdown talking about how how Triple H kicked his ass and how he's afraid of a tub of lard like Mark Henry. Triple H wouldn't even put him over in an interview after the match. This is just a complete burial. As for ideas to improve WWE, they've all been said before. They have to get the old guys out now. Hogan and and Taker will not go out willingly and put young guys over on their way out. So just kick them out now and start rebuilding. They've got to get the Angle's, Jericho's, Edge's and RVD's in the main event scene now and put them on equal footing with Austin and Triple H. They have to make Benoit's return a HUGE deal. And like Meltzer said, to hell with the ratings for 6 months. If RAW is going to do a 3.5, then at least be doing a 3.5 while you're creating new stars and building for the future. Doing a 3.5 while you're still trying to squeeze a few more dollars out of Hogan, or Taker or another Vince feud is counter productive to the future of the company. They've got to start building up midcarders and mid-card feuds so people don't see them as a bathroom break until Hogan or Vince or Triple H comes back on. They have to do something to make RAW and Smackdown different from each other and they have got to stop cross-promoting every week. They've got to rid of this ancient idea of "paying dues" to keep the top guys happy and push people while they're hot. They have to take all active wrestlers off the booking committee. And they really need to overhaul the writing team but unfortunately Stephanie is going nowhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites