Wwe shooting itself in the foot

[Guest easye46]

Is it just me or did Ross mention something about elevating new stars? I watch smackdown and I'm watching Storm job to HHH.. ok. So HHH just finished HITC, and really does putting him over Storm do anything for him? It certainly wouldn't hurt the guy to lay down, considering HITC was less than a week ago.. and give Storm some credibility.. but noooo.. I though this split was supposed to give talent more opportunity..

[Guest papacita]

Why does it matter? Losing one match to HHH isn't gonna make the man look any worse, and it looks like he's got a push in the works anyway. No offense to anyone, but sometimes you guys complain too much.

[Guest]

If the push they have planned for Storm is a fued with HHH i dont see how that is much of a push, just look what its done for Jericho. Im sure we can expect to see Storm going back to jobbing to new stars like Maven because we all know that he has so much more talent than Storm and so deserves to be pushed down our throats every week.

[Guest Anglesault]

Im sure we can expect to see Storm going back to jobbing to new stars like Maven because we all know that he has so much more talent than Storm and so deserves to be pushed down our throats every week.

No, Angle took over for Storm in that department.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

If the guy is on tv, having matches with hhh and hhh is selling for him then it's better than nothing. I don't doubt that the match will have been forgotten by next week, but there we are.

[Guest One Bad Apple]

Is it just me or did Ross mention something about elevating new stars? I watch smackdown and I'm watching Storm job to HHH.. ok. So HHH just finished HITC, and really does putting him over Storm do anything for him?

It doesn't make him look like some jerk that can't beat Lance Storm.

 

It certainly wouldn't hurt the guy to lay down, considering HITC was less than a week ago.. and give Storm some credibility.. but noooo..

Storm should've beat Hunter?  Er ... yeah.

 

If they want to make Storm credible, they're going to build him up instead of immediately giving him wins against main-eventers.  I guess maybe it's that you really like Storm, so it's unfair for him to lose to those guys because they had a big match at the last pay-per-view.

 

Storm isn't anywhere near Triple H, yet was allowed to control the whole match and only lost after a desperation Pedigree.  

 

And if the Judgment Day match should've prevented Triple H from getting a pin ... why aren't you complaining about Mark Henry losing to Jericho?  I mean, Henry would be more of a threat to Jericho than Storm is to Triple H.

 

I know ... it's 'cause you're a pathetic whiner.

 

I though this split was supposed to give talent more opportunity..

Kidman, Dreamer, Orton, Hurricane, D-Von and Steven Richards to name a few.

[Guest Anglesault]

I know ... it's 'cause you're a pathetic whiner.

 

And an idiot-fag. Can't forget the idiot-fag.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Personally I'd have liked to see HHH and Jericho lose to play up the effect of HIAC.

 

Jericho had to cheat to win anyway...and HHH could stand to lose too...but NO...

[Guest]

I kind of agree that some of you tend to complain too much (no offense.) HHH jobbing to Storm wouldn't have really done anything for Storm. Why? Because the fans would've cared less, believe me. We Storm fans would've marked out I'm sure, but the casual mark isn't going to care, so therefor Storm will not be elevated. Right now, it's just not Storm's time. Maybe someday it will be. Maybe someday it won't. I'm not saying the WWE hasn't misused Storm because believe me, they have. But he's looking alot better now than he was during the invasion, when people like Molly Holly pinned him during 6 man tags.

 

I know this has been thrown around before... but think about this for a second. Storm and Test are on the same page right now, and they of course are on the same page with Jericho. Test interfered in HHH's match on Smackdown. Some people are saying that this might lead to a Test vs. HHH match, but I'm getting the feeling that there MIGHT be another stable forming... possibly another Team Canada. It probably won't happen, but it would make sense if they were to go in this direction

[Guest Anglesault]

No on wants Test in Team Canada. Hell, no one wants Team Canada. nd actually, no one wants Test...

[Guest]

I wouldn't mind seeing another Team Canada if it were set apart creativly than the other versions (WWF Hart Foundation, WCW's TC) and of course actually elevated Jericho and Storm. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Test in it as long as he doesn't play the leader and has a minimal impact. I would love to see Benoit, Jericho, Storm, and Christian be the main focus of it, with all of them just destroying anyone in their path (similar to the idea we talked about with Benoit, Angle, and Jericho) ... but alas, I can only dream

[Guest One Bad Apple]

Personally I'd have liked to see HHH and Jericho lose to play up the effect of HIAC.

The effects were already played up nicely, at least in HHH's case.

 

Jericho had to cheat to win anyway...and HHH could stand to lose too...but NO...

Jericho always cheats.  It'd be nice if he could a win a few fairly, but whaddaya gonna do.  

 

Besides, him and Henry are closer to each other on the card than Hunter and Storm.  Not on the same level ... but closer.

[Guest bcu1979]

Personally I'd have liked to see HHH and Jericho lose to play up the effect of HIAC.

The effects were already played up nicely, at least in HHH's case.

 

Jericho had to cheat to win anyway...and HHH could stand to lose too...but NO...

Jericho always cheats.  It'd be nice if he could a win a few fairly, but whaddaya gonna do.  

 

Besides, him and Henry are closer to each other on the card than Hunter and Storm.  Not on the same level ... but closer.

How exactly are Henry and Jericho closer on the card than Triple H and Storm? Granted, it looks like Jericho is being shoved down the card rapidly in the direction of the mid-card after JD.

 

But Jericho has been one of the company's best workers and most entertaining characters so far this year. Jericho was also the Undisputed Champion just two months ago and has competed in several PPV main events. Mark Henry is a tub of lard who's biggest contribution to the company this year is doing dreadful skits backstage to showcase his great strength.

 

I don't see how Mark Henry should be anymore likely to beat Jericho than Storm is to beat Triple H.

 

And I have an easy solution to the problem of Jericho never winning any matches clean. Book him to win matches clean. Problem solved.

[Guest Rick001]

The WWE is fucked plain and simple.  HHH is too much of a boot licker to job to anyone but Main Eventers.  Why the hell is Maven almost becoming a Main Eventer?  Look at him!!  In the WWE not even a year and he got a title shot at Jericho, Feud the The Taker (which would have been better if Taker oh I dunno DECIDED TO JOB TO HIM) and he was Hardcore champ!  The kid is getting good not THAT good though, meanwhile the likes of Lance Storm, Jericho, Angle are getting de-pushed!  Look at Angle a Hair vs. Hair match at the last PPV, Jericho jobbed to HHH in HIAC, Storm jobbed to HHH.  The WWE needs to straighten out or go out of buisness

[Guest One Bad Apple]

How exactly are Henry and Jericho closer on the card than Triple H and Storm? Granted, it looks like Jericho is being shoved down the card rapidly in the direction of the mid-card after JD.

You answered your own question.  Jericho is not on Triple H's level; otherwise he'd beat him once in a while.  Not to mention that Henry's higher up on the card than Storm right now.

 

But Jericho has been one of the company's best workers and most entertaining characters so far this year. Jericho was also the Undisputed Champion just two months ago and has competed in several PPV main events. Mark Henry is a tub of lard who's biggest contribution to the company this year is doing dreadful skits backstage to showcase his great strength.

And all of this has something to do with what I said how, exactly?

 

I don't see how Mark Henry should be anymore likely to beat Jericho than Storm is to beat Triple H.

Jericho is in the lower tier of the main events; Triple H is in the upper.  Storm gets fucking thrown around by Randy Orton; Mark Henry crushes Christian (who'd I'd say is currently around where Storm is).  Henry's also featured on Smackdown more and has some built-in credibility with the strongman competition.

 

 

And an idiot-fag. Can't forget the idiot-fag.

Geez ... at least put a little creativity into it.  

 

I explained "idiot-fag" to you before, so you're either a total moron, or just desperate to hold on to this can't-miss material.  I'd have to go with the latter, especially when your sorry arguments are considered.  The former I'm already aware of.

 

It's all so pathetic.

 

Tell you what, pal of mine ... maybe sometime I'll do you a favor and mistype "moonlight" as "moonlihgt."  That should be enough to keep something in your insult bucket for the next five or six months.

[Guest TheyCallMeMark]

Wwe shooting itself in the foot

 

I think it's about time to reload.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I think its about time to aim for the head

[Guest easye46]

I know ... it's 'cause you're a pathetic whiner.

 

And an idiot-fag. Can't forget the idiot-fag.

Well, if it makes you feel good to flame me with nonsense then fine. I'm happy to engage in friendly debate. Perhaps you could make your point with tact and not act like a troll.. If you don't like my posts, then don't reply..

[Guest easye46]

Is it just me or did Ross mention something about elevating new stars? I watch smackdown and I'm watching Storm job to HHH.. ok. So HHH just finished HITC, and really does putting him over Storm do anything for him?

It doesn't make him look like some jerk that can't beat Lance Storm.

 

It certainly wouldn't hurt the guy to lay down, considering HITC was less than a week ago.. and give Storm some credibility.. but noooo..

Storm should've beat Hunter?  Er ... yeah.

 

If they want to make Storm credible, they're going to build him up instead of immediately giving him wins against main-eventers.  I guess maybe it's that you really like Storm, so it's unfair for him to lose to those guys because they had a big match at the last pay-per-view.

 

Storm isn't anywhere near Triple H, yet was allowed to control the whole match and only lost after a desperation Pedigree.  

 

And if the Judgment Day match should've prevented Triple H from getting a pin ... why aren't you complaining about Mark Henry losing to Jericho?  I mean, Henry would be more of a threat to Jericho than Storm is to Triple H.

 

I know ... it's 'cause you're a pathetic whiner.

 

I though this split was supposed to give talent more opportunity..

Kidman, Dreamer, Orton, Hurricane, D-Von and Steven Richards to name a few.

 

As I mentioned before, if you don't like my posts then don't reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.

[Guest]

Here's the deal...

 

And this is coming from a man who is a young smark (17)...

 

I know two things about wrestling: The shit in the ring, and the shit out of the ring. It's the shit out of the ring that makes sure the shit in the ring is entertaining. Right now, Vince is having a problem with how entertaining his shows are, as RAW and Smackdown! haven't scored in the 4s for quite some time. Now, I'm down for pushing the new talent...but guys...realize that Vince has dug himself a hole so deep that he only has the OLD talent to back himself up on, since he hasn't focused on the future, and only the present.

 

Right now, it isn't a good time for Vince to take a chance with someone new...now, if the ratings dip even lower...well, he has no choice. He would need something new and fresh. Right now, in his little mind, Vince thinks it will turn out right in the end...while us smart marks think it won't. Now, as much as I wanna see RVD, or Storm, or Jericho as your WWE Undisputed Champ...Vince won't let it be unless a bolt of lightning strikes him and changes his entire thinking on wrestling as a whole. So, let the great virtue of patience be your guide, and grit your teeth until you guys need to strike in protest. Until then...just wait and see if Vince lets the good times roll. If not, we can all say we told him so.

[Guest bcu1979]

But Jericho has been one of the company's best workers and most entertaining characters so far this year. Jericho was also the Undisputed Champion just two months ago and has competed in several PPV main events. Mark Henry is a tub of lard who's biggest contribution to the company this year is doing dreadful skits backstage to showcase his great strength.

And all of this has something to do with what I said how, exactly?

It relates because we're discussing how wrestlers are portrayed by the bookers. Regardless of how poorly Jericho's title reign was booked he was still Undisputed Champion for 3 1/2 months and holds PPV victories over both Rock and Austin.

 

Mark Henry hasn't done anything but perform a bunch of strongman stunts while all the wrestlers not good enough to wrestle on Smackdown stand in the background and watch.

 

Jericho should be able to beat Mark Henry clean. (The same Mark Henry who jobbed clean to Test the week before.)

 

Not only did the match make Jericho look weak, but it also makes the belt look weak and it certainly doesn't do much for the images of Austin and Rock.

 

I also disagree with the idea that Henry is higher on the totem pole than Lance Storm. Storm has been getting more tv time in the last couple weeks and has been interacting with the likes Angle, Edge, Triple H, Jericho and Vince.

 

Mark Henry, on the other hand, has seen his television time decrease and, before his match with Jericho, has never interacted with anyone higher up on the card than Christian and Test.