Bored 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 Nothing too interesting this week. 1. USC 2. Texas 3. Alabama 4. Miami 5. Penn State 6. Virginia Tech 7. LSU 8. Ohio State 9. Georgia 10. Oregon 11. Notre Dame 12. Texas Tech 13. Florida 14. West Virginia 15. UCLA 16. Wisconsin 17. TCU 18. Colorado 19. Florida State 20. Auburn 21. Michigan 22. Fresno State 23. Georgia Tech 24. Minnesota 25. Louisville Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 What is the cutoff for Notre Dame to be BCS at-large eligible? I'm thinking it's not Top-6 like every other school, but I can't remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 Indys and non-BCS conferences need a top 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 They also need to win out to be eligible (9 wins is the minimum for at-large consideration). If they do that, there's no way they're not in the top 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 Penn State/Notre Dame would make whichever BCS bowl gets it very happy. That could pull in some insane ratings with the two schools followings and history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 Nothing to interesting? Did you see how close Miami was to Alabama? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2005 The Miami/Alabama situation is funny to me. I think it only exists because there are still more than two undefeated teams. If Texas or USC had lost by now, I don't think anyone would have the two major conference unbeaten teams remaining anywhere but #1 and #2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2005 For those clamoring for the Notre Dame/Penn State Fiesta Bowl as things stand right now it would be surprising if it were to happen and here is why. If the season were over here would be the curretn automatic bids: #1 USC (Pac-10 Champ) #2 Texas (Big XII Champ) #3 Alabama (SEC Champ) #4 Miami (ACC Champ) #5 Penn State (Big Ten Champ) #11 Notre Dame (automatic at-large) #14 West Virginia (Big East Champ) The order of priority this year is Orange, Fiesta, Sugar. Right now USC and Texas obviously go to the Rose Bowl so the Fiesta Bowl then gets first pick by losing their automatic bids (that being in the Big XII and Pac-10 as the Pac-10 champ goes to the Fiesta Bowl when the Rose Bowl is the national title game). Fiesta Bowl obviously picks Notre Dame. Then Orange is next and they obviously take Miami (required to take ACC or Big East Champ). Sugar then is required to take Alabama. Now it gets interesting because the Orange Bowl gets the next pick, not the Fiesta. So along with Penn State and West Virginia they have these at-large options: Virginia Tech, LSU, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Texas Tech. LSU and Ohio State might interest them but most likely they are going to pick Penn State. Then it goes back to the Fiesta Bowl in which they would probably take Oregon. Fiesta prefers west coast schools and has no interest in the ACC or SEC although they would probably strongly consider Ohio State. Then the Sugar gets left with West Virignia. So as these stand right now this is how the BCS looks: Rose: USC vs. Texas Orange: Miami vs. Penn State Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Oregon (or Ohio State) Sugar: Alabama vs. West Virginia Obviously the rankings won't be staying the same with the SEC title picture still very unsettled. Anyways I just think Notre Dame/Penn State in the Fiesta might be a longshot unless the Orange Bowl does something surprising with it's 2nd pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2005 I'd be down with that but I don't know if Oregon could hang with ND after losing Clemens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *KNK* Report post Posted November 8, 2005 For those clamoring for the Notre Dame/Penn State Fiesta Bowl as things stand right now it would be surprising if it were to happen and here is why. If the season were over here would be the curretn automatic bids: #1 USC (Pac-10 Champ) #2 Texas (Big XII Champ) #3 Alabama (SEC Champ) #4 Miami (ACC Champ) #5 Penn State (Big Ten Champ) #11 Notre Dame (automatic at-large) #14 West Virginia (Big East Champ) The order of priority this year is Orange, Fiesta, Sugar. Right now USC and Texas obviously go to the Rose Bowl so the Fiesta Bowl then gets first pick by losing their automatic bids (that being in the Big XII and Pac-10 as the Pac-10 champ goes to the Fiesta Bowl when the Rose Bowl is the national title game). Fiesta Bowl obviously picks Notre Dame. Then Orange is next and they obviously take Miami (required to take ACC or Big East Champ). Sugar then is required to take Alabama. Now it gets interesting because the Orange Bowl gets the next pick, not the Fiesta. So along with Penn State and West Virginia they have these at-large options: Virginia Tech, LSU, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon, Texas Tech. LSU and Ohio State might interest them but most likely they are going to pick Penn State. Then it goes back to the Fiesta Bowl in which they would probably take Oregon. Fiesta prefers west coast schools and has no interest in the ACC or SEC although they would probably strongly consider Ohio State. Then the Sugar gets left with West Virignia. So as these stand right now this is how the BCS looks: Rose: USC vs. Texas Orange: Miami vs. Penn State Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Oregon (or Ohio State) Sugar: Alabama vs. West Virginia Obviously the rankings won't be staying the same with the SEC title picture still very unsettled. Anyways I just think Notre Dame/Penn State in the Fiesta might be a longshot unless the Orange Bowl does something surprising with it's 2nd pick. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I can't see how Fiesta could resist the temptation for the ND/OSU showdown. That would a much bigger ratings draw then ND/Oregon-anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2005 Its not necesasarily about the ratings. Oregon was in the Fiesta a few years back and the Fiesta Bowl committee might like how the fans traveled (I dont remember but I think it was a pretty good traveling crowd). Bowl committees look at boosts to the local economy too. For example a member of the Holiday Bowl (located in San Diego) committee said they would be more inclined to take a 1 loss Oregon team over a 1 loss UCLA team because more Oregon fans would sleep in hotels and such. Of course I'm sure OSU travels well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2005 According to local reports over the last couple weeks, the Fiesta committee is in love with Penn State. While I would be surprised to see any bowl pass on ND as it's first choice, I wouldn't be shocked if Fiesta goes PSU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2005 Hey I was convinced two years ago that the BCS would talk the Orange Bowl into taking Ohio State over Florida State to play Miami in a rematch of the title game from the year before but geography won out. If UCLA had gone undefeated into the USC game and lost I guarentee they would have been picked for the Fiesta Bowl. Now it's slightly less likely with Oregon but really don't be surprised if it happens. Of course if Ohio State loses Michigan they won't be in the BCS and I'm sure Oregon State would love to ruin Oregon's BCS chances in the Civil War. One scenerio that could lead to Notre Dame/Penn State is if Florida wins out (South Carolina and Florida State left). They'd crack the Top 12 and the Orange Bowl then would probably then take them leaving Penn State for the Fiesta Bowl. According to local reports over the last couple weeks, the Fiesta committee is in love with Penn State. While I would be surprised to see any bowl pass on ND as it's first choice, I wouldn't be shocked if Fiesta goes PSU. That'd be good news for Oregon if that happened as Notre Dame would fall into the Orange Bowl's lap and then obviously the Fiesta wouldn't match-up two teams from the same conference in Penn State/Ohio State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2005 According to local reports over the last couple weeks, the Fiesta committee is in love with Penn State. While I would be surprised to see any bowl pass on ND as it's first choice, I wouldn't be shocked if Fiesta goes PSU. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I could see all of the bowls wanting Penn State because of the way that their fans travel. After ND, PSU fans might be the best at traveling to games. Even for the minor bowls they've been in, the fans fill the stadiums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites