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[Guest areacode212]

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[Guest bob_barron]

Damn- cant call in. Its busy.

[Guest areacode212]

Yeah, I'll go out on a limb here and predict that this will probably be their most listened-to show so far.

[Guest]

I just started listening 10 minutes ago and so far he's not coming off as a bitter fool. He's saying some very nice things about Davey

[Guest bob_barron]

Good for Bret- he's not trashing him.

[Guest areacode212]

Yeah, it's nice to know that they sort of buried the hatchet. For those not listening, Bret said that he met Davey at his parents' house after Helen died, and he told Davey that he thought that the things that Diana wrote about him were unfair.

[Guest bob_barron]

Damn- this is so depressing.

[Guest art_vandelay]

I can't listen to the show.  Any comments from Bret about Confidential?

[Guest Ozymandias]

No, but Dave just said they'll get to it next.

[Guest art_vandelay]

Great.  Thanks.

[Guest areacode212]

He just said that his issues with Davey didn't have to do with DBS's returning to the WWF, but that Martha's lawyers asked the family to remain neutral about the lawsuit, and not to make any statements, but that Diana convinced Davey to go on the news and say that Owen's accident was just that, and that it wasn't anyone's (read: not Vince's) fault.

 

Bret doesn't have any closure over Owen's death. He doesn't know who was responsible, and that an explanation of his death was never released.

 

He just said that the idea of "refusing to drop the belt under any circumstances" is untrue. He refused to drop the belt to Shawn until Shawn showed him that he would be willing to job to him, or anyone else. He offered to drop the belt to anybody, including STEVE LOMBARDI (which actually could have been kind of cool), who he was scheduled to wrestle at Madison Square Garden.

 

Commercial break.

[Guest areacode212]

Dave explains what was discussed on Confidential last night. Bret thinks that Hunter was in on it. He knows that Brisco orchestrated the whole thing. He doesn't blame Earl Hebner as much anymore, since he knows that Earl was put in a tough situation, but he wishes that he had a little more courage as far as telling him. He thinks it's a shame that Shawn turned into a "worm" and a "rat", since he has some good memories of him, and is proud of their matches. He says he bent over backwards to cooperate and work with Shawn and Vince. He takes great satisfaction in punching Vince in the locker room, and can still remember the looks on the faces of DBS, Owen, Neidhart, Undertaker, and Rick Rude after he did it.  

 

Shawn was supposed to lose the European title match to DBS at One Night Only, and Davey was very upset because he was supposed to dedicate the win to a sick relative. This was the main reason why DBS left the WWF, not because of the Bret screwjob.

 

In the locker room, all the officials were trying to get all the wrestlers out of the dressing room, but DBS refused to leave Bret in there alone, and he brought up what happened to Bruiser Brody. Bret admires Davey for doing that.

 

He doesn't blame Shawn as much as he blames Vince.

 

Another commercial break.

[Guest areacode212]

He wants to believe Brisco's assertion that Patterson wasn't in on it, but doesn't because the sharpshooter spot was something that Patterson apparently introduced to Bret.

 

He enjoyed doing the WWA work, especially going to Australia and seeing his fans. Jeff Jarrett is a good friend of his, and would love to help him out, but feels that he's too burned out from being on the road for 23 years. He'll be working for Jacques Rougeau in August, and thinks it'll be his final wrestling appearance. He'd like to find a new path in life that has nothing to do with wrestling. He wanted to open a wrestling school, but physically isn't up to it, due to the concussion. He'll probably just make up for lost time with his kids. Aside from the family in-fighting, he's pretty happy. He's doing a little better regarding the concussion, but can't jerk his head around, and has problems spinning around (looking over his shoulder, etc). He gets headaches.

 

He tells a story about Rock and Shawn & Hunter, that all the HHHaters will love. "Hunter wasn't a team player, at least I didn't think so at the time". Shawn and HHH wanted Bret to beat the Rock in a match, but he said that there wasn't a reason for him to, especially since Rock's stock wasn't very high at the time. Rock was often picked on by Shawn & Hunter, and they'd tear him apart in the dressing room, telling him all the things that he did wrong in the ring, etc. (Dave: "He'll get the last laugh") After they'd leave, Bret would tell Rock "don't pay any attention to them, you didn't do anything wrong". Later on, after Owen died, Rock thanked Bret profusely for sticking up for him, and had kind words for Owen as well. Bret is very proud of all of Rock's success. He doesn't know him that well anymore, but he always thought Rock was a good kid and had a great attitude.

 

Caller asks if there's truth to the rumor that Hogan sabotaged his career in WCW. Bret doesn't really believe it, but seems unsure. He considers Hogan a friend. He goes over the proposed angle where he was supposed to feud with him leading up to SummerSlam 93. Vince told Bret that Hogan told him that Bret wasn't in his league, but Bret doesn't believe it (but I do, given the reports that Hogan told Goldberg that Jericho wasn't in his league).

[Guest areacode212]

Caller asks if the HBK admission was something that was designed to draw ratings. Dave says "absolutely". Caller rants a little about the WWE writing. Dave (trying to make it relate to the guest on his show) asks Bret about what he thinks of the WWE writing, but Bret doesn't watch the product anymore. Bret thanks his fans and the armed services, saying it's nice to talk to them again.

 

End of show.

[Guest Anglesault]

and can still remember the looks on the faces of DBS, Owen, Neidhart, Undertaker, and Rick Rude after he did it.  

Wow, what a group. How scary is it that the majority of those guys are no longer with us?

[Guest Army Eye]

Liked this show a lot, but that last caller should be banned from the show.  For the final two minutes he just yakked about the WWF's writing problems, something he could call in about ANY WEEK!  Why he chose this week, and in the process wasted a possible question to Bret, I have no idea.

[Guest graph9]

My opinoin of both HHH and HBK has sunk..2 a all time low..considering how i never liked them anyway..And that incident where they where always picking on Rock goes to show you..how you never know..because now The Rock is a bigger star than both of them combined. and making more money 2...I can just imagine how both of them..especially..HHH..are jealous of him and his success..i heard that remark Bret made when he first got into the beef about him and Shawn, when he mentioned that he was insecure..thats probably the reason why he felt the need to constantly be unprofessional..not dropping that Euro title 2 davey..and hold people down..because he couldn't stand seeing someone else successful..

 

I thought it was interesting when he said that maybe Vince likes the tension between the top 2 stars..so he could play them against each other..hmm..Vince was probably fanning the flames between Bret and Shawn....He didn't come across bitter to me..and i thought it was very funny how he said he was going to beat Shawns ayz that night..wish he did..and that Vince is trying to save face with the ankle story..that a rocket launcher punch from bret..made him buckle and injure his ankle..hee

 

But does anyone think that something would have happened to Bret if not 4 davey insisting that they stay in there ?.but i liked the show alot also..i thought alot of the right questions where asked..i was ticked at dude at the end also..is there someway that i can hear it again..

[Guest]

I was pleasantly surprised at Bret... he didn't come off as bitter as he did a couple of years ago. That's good. I'm also glad that he said he wasn't as pissed at Hebner as he once was. This was a good interview, and I have alot more respect for him now than I did just a few hours ago.

[Guest Army Eye]

i was ticked at dude at the end also..is there someway that i can hear it again..

I heard Dave say it was gonna be replayed but I didn't catch the time.  The audio stream kind of skipped as he was saying the time.  

 

If anybody heard that, please post it.

[Guest art_vandelay]

Sounds like a good show.  Thanks for the recaps areacode212.

[Guest wolverine]

6 a.m. ET/3 a.m. PT

[Guest graph9]

Thanks 4 the time..oh my dayum..i am in the pacific time zone..oh what the hell..i will have my tape recorder ready..

[Guest]

Bret came off a lot better than I expected. I was sure as soon as HBK was mentioned, we'd here the simultaneous death of Bret Hart and Dave Meltzer from an explosion of rage. Kudos to Bret, unlike Vince, he sounds like he's legit trying to put it behind him.

[Guest y2jailbait]

This information is quite shocking. The things he's said about Micheals and Hunter were so true to life it seems like this is a hate that goes beyond human compliance. He wouldnt bring that all up if he didnt wanna drag there characters into the ground and yet still uplift his and The Rocks. It is very pety of this all to go down with the recent deaths of Davey Boy Smith and the anniversary of Owen, with the confidental special bringing memories almost forgotten back up again. It is a strane, cruel world we all live in isnt it?

[Guest bcu1979]

He tells a story about Rock and Shawn & Hunter, that all the HHHaters will love. "Hunter wasn't a team player, at least I didn't think so at the time". Shawn and HHH wanted Bret to beat the Rock in a match, but he said that there wasn't a reason for him to, especially since Rock's stock wasn't very high at the time. Rock was often picked on by Shawn & Hunter, and they'd tear him apart in the dressing room, telling him all the things that he did wrong in the ring, etc. (Dave: "He'll get the last laugh") After they'd leave, Bret would tell Rock "don't pay any attention to them, you didn't do anything wrong". Later on, after Owen died, Rock thanked Bret profusely for sticking up for him, and had kind words for Owen as well. Bret is very proud of all of Rock's success. He doesn't know him that well anymore, but he always thought Rock was a good kid and had a great attitude.

Well, that explains a couple things in Rock's book. He spoke very warmly of Bret and talked about how much Bret had helped him when he first came into the WWF. He didn't seem to have much use for Shawn Michaels though.

 

I can't say this story surprises me at all though.

[Guest graph9]

Did the interview really last two hrs if so..does anyone know what Bret was talking about during the first hour..because i woke up for the replay just when the second hour was starting, just as he was getting into montreal..Also did anyone tape the interview..if they did..i would like to buy it..But i can't wait until his book comes out..im sure has alot of great stories to tell..

[Guest papacita]

He spoke mostly about Bulldog during the 1st hour and touched on Owen's death a bit.

 

As for the Montreal thing...HBK is my all time favorite wrestler but hearing some of the things Bret said in the interview made me lose a lot of respect for him. Not just the thing with Rocky, but crying in the corner in Montreal (yeah I'm sure it's probably old news, but this is my 1st time hearing about it)...I can't believe I'm saying this, but he's a pussy.

[Guest caboose]

I didn't hear the show, but having read all the posts about it, I've learnt a few thing s about Triple H, HBK and Bret.

Triple H is an even bigger jackass than I already thought, how INTENSELY jealous must he be of Rocky at the moment.

The stuff about HBK is nothing new but it saddens me even more when the guy had SO MUCH talent but pissed it all away.

Bret though still seems as if he is trying to make himself out to be the victim, when he was at fault as well.

But at least he didn't do it in his usual bitchy way.

[Guest papacita]

Bret though still seems as if he is trying to make himself out to be the victim, when he was at fault as well.

But at least he didn't do it in his usual bitchy way.

I noticed that too. He seemed pretty humble this time, but yeah, he definitely stressed that he was victimized by the biz. Even when talking about WCW. "I don't know if Hogan sabotaged my career...but somebody did" I stopped following WCW in 98 so I dunno whether or not it's the truth, but it just seems like he's real fast to place blame on someone.

[Guest Raven_Effect01]

Even though I never got the chance to listen to it(a "Page cannot be displayed" screen kept coming up), from what I've read about it, it sounds like Bret surprisingly didn't come off bitter and had a lot of interesting things to say concerning HHH and HBK.  The fact that Bret knew that HHH and HBK were ribbing The Rock(in his rookie years) about something he did wrong in a match further proves how jealous HHH is of other wrestlers wanting to have his spot(Jericho and Angle come to mind) at main-event status.