Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 They don't want to run the risk of inclimatic weather. Besides, wherever they put the games. Someone is going to have a homefield advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) Heres how the Harris poll voters voted: Harris Interactive poll Many people put Oregon 8th, 9th and a few even as low as 11th. Notre Dame's announcer Pat Hayden voted ND third, whcih is just godamn ridiculous. Edited December 5, 2005 by nogoodnick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Rocket Ismail putting ND at 4th, and Oregon at 11. I see why this poll is insulted now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Man they had this guy from college football news on All Night last night. Jason Smith(i think that's his name. he's the host) was complaining about how the Pac 10 gets no respect and it's BS that Oregon is left out. Then he goes on to say that Oregon will win their bowl game by 50 points(well with OU's secondary it's possible). Finally the CFN guy stopped him and went on about how bad the Pac 10 is and about how OU is really good and he thinks they're going to beat Oregon. It was a funny argument just because the host was going on and you could tell the CFN guy was geting annoyed as he went on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 As a Duck fan I have to laugh at all these guys talking about how Oregon gor screwed as an excuse to bash the BCS and lament how hard things are for the Pac-10. It would be one thing if these teams had been selected to play because of the money. But they qualified automatically under the rules that everyone knows in advance. Also, without Kellen Clemens I have a hard time saying that Oregon is a better team than Notre Dame. They definitely are not a better team than Ohio State right now. I just wish the Pac-10 would negociate some better bowl contracts so their number 2 team could at least play a New Year's game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 As much as it sucked losing Clemens it was actually good for the Oregon football program. They should go 11-1 without him and finish ranked the same as if they went to the Fiesta Bowl. The amount of money they lost is only a few hundred thousand. Now at least they have a qb or two who have proven they can play and will be more than ready next year with 1/3 of a season under their belts already. The only thing they missed out on was the extra bit of publicity from playing in a bigger bowl. They havent traveled to SoCal yet this year so the Holiday Bowl may be better for recruiting than heading to Tempe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Honestly, count me as being way off the "Oregon got screwed" bandwagon. Notre Dame isn't in a BCS conference, so they got in automatically as a result of finishing in the Top 6. It's a good rule, and it's the same rule that Utah qualified under last year. I didn't here anybody complaining last year that #6 Utah got an at-large berth even though Cal was ranked higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Why do all these OU fans think that DJ Wolfe and Reggie Smith are good? They aren't. Nobody in OU's secondary is good. The best player is Eric Bassey. That's awful. If Oregon is halfway competent in throwing the ball then it's over and that's all there is to it. What a crappy bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Honestly, count me as being way off the "Oregon got screwed" bandwagon. Notre Dame isn't in a BCS conference, so they got in automatically as a result of finishing in the Top 6. It's a good rule, and it's the same rule that Utah qualified under last year. Isn't ND's provision that they can be in the BCS top 12 and be considered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Honestly, count me as being way off the "Oregon got screwed" bandwagon. Notre Dame isn't in a BCS conference, so they got in automatically as a result of finishing in the Top 6. It's a good rule, and it's the same rule that Utah qualified under last year. Isn't ND's provision that they can be in the BCS top 12 and be considered? That's the same for all the non-BCS conference schools. Top 12 to be considered, top 6 to qualify automatically. Damnit why couldn't Michigan have held on for one more minute and sent tOSU to Florida? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 It is an excellent rule when your team gets there based on merit. Utah last year was undefeated and it would've been the biggest travesty in the history of the BCS not to have them in. The Harris Poll shows how hard ND supporters wanted to get them in. Now I'm not saying Notre Dame doesn't deserve to be there because they are a definite top 10 team. But there are more deserving teams than them. It wont matter anymore next year with that extra BCS game. I wish they would join the Big 10 or Big East and then they could just win their damn conference title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 They have no reason to join a conference. They make the Top 12 in the BCS, and have 9 or more wins. They're going to a BCS bowl game. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 So the coaches ballots were released today. Stoops has himself at #21 and South Carolina at #22. Meanwhile Spurrier has himself at #21 and OU at #22. I wonder if they were on the phone with each other when they cast these ballots? And Mike Gundy didn't even vote OU in the Top 25? After the big league spanking that OU laid on you? And Mack Brown didn't even vote himself as #1. He's got USC at #1. Coker voted Miami #4!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 5, 2005 And Mack Brown didn't even vote himself as #1. He's got USC at #1. At least through all of his bitching, he's an honest guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Well a bunch of other coaches voted Texas #1. What about them? Man OU is like so close to the Top 25. We probably could've gotten in if Gundy and Brown didn't snub us. Dammit Gundy. We whipped your sorry ass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 5, 2005 I didn't here anybody complaining last year that #6 Utah got an at-large berth even though Cal was ranked higher. Yes, that's a fair comparison. An undefeated team who slaughtered all their opponents, and a 2-loss team including 1 loss to a Big 10 team not even making a bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Well a bunch of other coaches voted Texas #1. What about them? They can feel free to do so, but I have respect for Brown because he can vote the team with the same record as them #1. It's clear that he has a lot of respect for Southern Cal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Man OU is like so close to the Top 25. We probably could've gotten in if Gundy and Brown didn't snub us. Dammit Gundy. We whipped your sorry ass! What is this obsession with making the top 25? Is there some kind of extra prestige in being the 25th best team in America as opposed to the 26th? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Man OU is like so close to the Top 25. We probably could've gotten in if Gundy and Brown didn't snub us. Dammit Gundy. We whipped your sorry ass! What is this obsession with making the top 25? Is there some kind of extra prestige in being the 25th best team in America as opposed to the 26th? Actual recognition as a Top 25 team? The fact that this is the first time in 5 years that we were out of the Top 25(actually first time in 5 years that we were out of the top 10). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 They finished #23 in the BCS and those are the only rankings that matter, so who cares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Man OU is like so close to the Top 25. We probably could've gotten in if Gundy and Brown didn't snub us. Dammit Gundy. We whipped your sorry ass! What is this obsession with making the top 25? Is there some kind of extra prestige in being the 25th best team in America as opposed to the 26th? Actual recognition as a Top 25 team? The fact that this is the first time in 5 years that we were out of the Top 25(actually first time in 5 years that we were out of the top 10). As if anyone will remember (or care) years from now. I couldn't tell you the top 25 teams from LAST year. Hell, I couldn't even tell you the top 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 6, 2005 I think being ranked 25th is worse than being unranked, but that's an extremely odd position that I don't expect others to adopt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Boredom strikes, here are all AP 25th ranked teams since the polls expanded from 20 in 1989. 2004: Pittsburgh 2003: TCU 2002: West Virginia 2001: BYU 2000: Iowa State 1999: Purdue 1998: Syracuse 1997: Georgia Tech 1996: Army 1995: Iowa 1994: Texas 1993: California 1992: Wake Forest 1991: Air Force 1990: Illinois 1989: Arizona I now your lives are enriched for knowing this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Army and Wake Forest are shockers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Another fun fact about Army and '96: 1996 has been the only year (so far) since 1965 that both Army and Navy were ranked going into the Army-Navy Game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 6, 2005 With Bobby Ross running that program, I think they are likely to have the resurgence that Navy is having within the next 2 seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 6, 2005 I don't believe Navy was also ranked in '96, just Army. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 Navy was 8-2 going into the game in '96 (Army was 9-1) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 True but Navy was indeed not ranked in either AP or Coaches poll that year. They did beat Cal in the Aloha Bowl and Army lost to Auburn in the Independence Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ether Report post Posted December 6, 2005 So the coaches ballots were released today. Stoops has himself at #21 and South Carolina at #22. Meanwhile Spurrier has himself at #21 and OU at #22. I wonder if they were on the phone with each other when they cast these ballots? And Mike Gundy didn't even vote OU in the Top 25? After the big league spanking that OU laid on you? And Mack Brown didn't even vote himself as #1. He's got USC at #1. Coker voted Miami #4!? Houston Nutt failed to vote WVU in the Top 25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
