Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Well, Raw was pretty decent, with a couple of good matches and some nice storyline movement. But there's a bit of a problem. All the Undertaker did on Raw was make Tommy Dreamer drink tobacco juice and beat the crap out of him. This does not bode well. If the WWE was planning on moving forward with RVD/Taker for KotR, they certainly don't seem to be now. RVD wins the IC belt, and Taker makes zero appearance in the main event, equaling zero interaction between the two for the night. Eddie/Austin is pretty well sewn up, but Taker? Nope, he ain't got a feud yet. Not on Raw, at least. Which brings us to Smackdown. They're not going to try to run a heel/heel showdown at KotR the way they've been building their other heels lately. Edge hasn't moved away from Angle yet, and that leaves us with the board's favorite two sons: HHH, and Hogan. So, at this point, judging by the seeming lack of direction thus far for the Heavyweight champion and his title, which one do you think is going to be going for the gold (sigh) at KotR? And furthermore: who thought THAT was a good idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 OK...I agree with Mac Daddy. We need to make sure that the WWE doesn't fuck this shit up. Ummmm...what about Hogan/HHH, with the winner getting a shot at Undertaker? You can have Hogan win...and then lose against the Undertaker. Then he can retire...for good. But then again, HHH said the "C" word on SmackDown! (champion) so all signs point to HHH/UT in the battle of the abbreviations at KOR...so Hogan and Vince could fight. UGH! Why not just GIVE the title to RVD? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted May 28, 2002 RVD + IC Title = HHH in the Main Event *buy rate sinking already* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I beleive that HHH will main event. But don't rule out something like Vince & Taker vs. Hogan. I warned you before. I'll do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodolemr Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I fear it will be Triple H. However, there is hope. Perhaps WWE will build towards title for title/champion vs. champion match. Ok, its a long shot, but I can dream, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I guess I'm the only one who thinks it will be Title Vs. Title at KotR between RVD and UT... . Just me wishing and hoping. But, in REALITY... it'll probably be HHH. Or like bps said Taker & Vince Vs. Hogan or some boring shit like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Well, Stephanie was absent from Raw last week and had no control over that. I guess she's back, and pushing anyone not named Helmsley out of the main event. HHHolding Down! WOO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 A title for title match would put everyone into a frenzy...because then, what's going to happen to HHH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I wish HHH and Stephanie would be brutally beaten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I like the idea of title vs. title. Another possibility, and one that could be unique and restore some immediate glory to the KotR tournament itself, could be the winner of the tournament facing him in the title match. Maybe get the tournament down to the semi-finals and run those and the final, with the winner getting the shot at Taker in his third match of the night, the main event. Of course, this is presuming the tournament happens. They could do a field of 16 easily enough in two weeks, but will they? I'm just hoping for a creative main event of some sort, because another straight out boring 1-on-1 with little history is going to be dull. Or, god forbid: a triple threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest y2jailbait Report post Posted May 28, 2002 With Hulk Hogan getting the shot at Backlash and him being a smackdown guy, it all points to a smackdown guy getting the shot At KOTR, but HHH? I mean they did actually see the fact that a HHH-Undertaker buyrate would send the WWE into a downward spiral didnt they? Well, im just happy to see Tommy Dreamer getting airtime, the king of heat is the king of mid-card raw! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big McLargeHuge Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I'm still keeping out hope that it'll be RVD/Taker. Sure Taker didn't do anything with RVD tonight, but it doesn't mean that next week won't see a continuation. Ok so it's a long shot. But with Eddie busy taking on Austin, who else is Rob gonna face. Besides, I'd like to see them pimp a 'champ vs champ' match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I would rather see a Taker v. Tommy Dreamer ME at KOTR then a Taker v. HHH match. That's no lie. By the way, what in the world are those things spinning behind the KOTR logo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Where does the Taker go now? How about, after dropping the title, he goes into competition for the Seniors belt? That's not a good name, call it the "Masters" belt or something. Have the field be him, DDP, Hogan, Nash, Boss Man ('cause every division needs a jobber), and Faarooq. That'll keep a lot of bad (and old. and slow.) workers out of the way of the younger, more exciting wrestlers, pop the casual fans who know these cats from years ago... hell, have the gimmick be that it's only open to those who've won World titles in the past (which everyone I mentioned except for Bossman has), give 'em a couple matches a week (say one on Smackdown and one on Heat), kinda like the cruiserweights, and let the main belts be fought over by guys who are at or near their peak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 28, 2002 By the way, what in the world are those things spinning behind the KOTR logo? I don't know... I was wondering the same thing. When I first saw them I thought they were like snakes or something... like the snakes on Medusa's head. They look like daggers or something... but whatever they are they are freaky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Wouldn't it be cool if they leave Taker opponentless, setting the stipulations that the winner of the KOR gets a title shot in the main event against Taker... and then RVD wins, and goes on to beat Taker in the main event, simultaneously being the IC champion, King of the Ring, and WWE champion? Of course, they would make him drop the IC belt which would further cheapen it's value, but an RVD WWE title reign would honestly be worth it in my opinion. Plus the IC title can be built back up if done correctly, but this is the WWE so the chances of that happening are slim But who knows, tonight's RAW was a great step in the right direction and if they can keep pulling this off, then you never know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fazzle Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Wouldn't it be cool if they leave Taker opponentless, setting the stipulations that the winner of the KOR gets a title shot in the main event against Taker... and then RVD wins, and goes on to beat Taker in the main event, simultaneously being the IC champion, King of the Ring, and WWE champion? And then maybe he can rescue an old lady from a burning building, and find a cure for cancer! He's my heeeeero! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I said a couple of days ago that it would be HHH v Ut at kotr and people said they couldnt understand how that would happen, from what ive heard and read (im in the uk) raw has shown how that will happen, i expect RVD will be kept out of the actual tournament by having some meaningless insta-fued title defense against big show or whoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Wouldn't it be cool if they leave Taker opponentless, setting the stipulations that the winner of the KOR gets a title shot in the main event against Taker... and then RVD wins, and goes on to beat Taker in the main event, simultaneously being the IC champion, King of the Ring, and WWE champion? I think I would orgasm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Wouldn't it be cool if they leave Taker opponentless, setting the stipulations that the winner of the KOR gets a title shot in the main event against Taker... and then RVD wins, and goes on to beat Taker in the main event, simultaneously being the IC champion, King of the Ring, and WWE champion? I think I would orgasm... ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Maybe they will go back to the Taker-HHH feud that no one cared about two months ago because people will magically care about it now t hat two months have passed. Of course, when the buyrate sucks, the WWE can blame RVD, Guerrero, anyone else they are elevating, Jericho(as always,) and so on, for not being draws, thus UT-HHH come off scot-free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Well, if this whole Test/HHH thing goes no where, then it probably will be HHH vs UT at KotR. I don't see the point, personally, we've seen what those two CANT do together in the ring on numerous occaisions. Hogan should be in a program with Vince, so I hope that's short & to the point. I'd love to see RVD ME at KotR, but it probably won't happen. BTW, those things spinning in the backgroud of the KotR logo are just shadows of the letters; breaking apart, spinning & reforming. They did something similar last year, I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Risk Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Hm. Maybe HHH will have to elevate Test like Angle had to "elevate" Edge. I wanna see Triple H "elevate" a mid-carder for two PPVs, damnit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 28, 2002 What really blows is that if its NOT RVD (and it doesn't appear it will be) the MAin Event from KOTR will continue the streak of unwatchable ppv main events. Taker vs. HHH...it wasn't very good when HHH was good...and now hes not. Taker vs. Hogan again....God no Taker and Vince vs. Hogan...God no But if SD! is getting the match it will be one of those. Or they could do a tag team MAin Event with Taker and Vince vs. HHH and Hogan... But other than that they have nothing else they can do. Edge isn't ready, Angle and Jericho have been pushed out of the picture... ...And I thought SD! was the good show? RAW has Austin, Eddy, RVD and now Benoit...and they are getting pushed. SD! has gone the complete opposite direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Actually I haven't minded the crappy main events the last couple PPV's. Due to cable problems I've been watching the pay per views at a Hooter's. I hate Hooter's. This way I get to leave half an hour earlier, and still catch all the good matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I hate to say this, but I think Undertaker vs. HHH is the best way to go. The title needs to get off of Taker quickly. I say, at KOR, HHH goes over Taker and then turns heel afterwards, either the next night or in the weeks leading up. HHH always delivers as a heel, and I think it would be the best way to go. Then, along down the road within the next few months, a strong new babyface can be built up to feud with him (RVD... or hey, maybe even Edge) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted May 28, 2002 Who does Taker have issues with right now? Hogan and HHH are about it. Having Taker appear on Raw was useless, unless, and I'm praying to god this happens, he starts a program with Tommy. His comments last night were interesting when he said that there was no one in that lockerroom that could beat him. Taker sounds like he doesn't even want to match up with anyone in the wwe lockerrom so could it be a new talent being signed? i seriously douby rey rey is going to take on the deadman and there hasn't been any reports of any new signings. KOTR shouldn't even be about the wwe title anyway. it should be about the tournament, although it never is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I hope RVD still fights the Undertaker a the KOTR, but I think it will be HHH regaining the WWE Title. I think Hogan will have a singles match with Vince, and possibly retire afterwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 28, 2002 I hope RVD still fights the Undertaker a the KOTR, but I think it will be HHH regaining the WWE Title. NOOO!! I mean... what would that say about HHH's "backstage pull"? HHH: Well, I'm wrestling quite better... Taker has the title, and I want to be the first ever TWO time Undisputed Champion. Steph: Great idea, Hunter! I'll book it for King of the Ring! Heyman: But, what about RVD's push? HHH/Steph: Who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 29, 2002 Once again I like to point out if Abdullah the butcher can still waddle around in Japan impaling people with Forks and wrestle somewhat in the ring at 70 Then the UNDERTAKER is Not Old! bunch of Taker haters lol For the first week following a PPV they usually try to make some kind of basic angle for the World title.. who goes against it.... who will the Champion feud with.... Looks like its gonna turn into a different way. In terms of the Taker We probably gonna see him Come down during Raws and Smackdowns attacking various wrestlers as we seen with RVD and Dreamer... Perhaps wrestlers who you wouldn't see going against a World Champion at the time... Almost like Older Versions of the Taker in 98 when hewould come down and trash people for no reason just to cut a promo. The World title hunt is pretty much in a Abyss but if Undertaker does lose the belt to HHH or RVD or the EasterBunny or whoever they throw against him at the PPV...then that will again Tarnish the belt as being a Belt that lasts for a Month. The belt itself could be cursed LOL HHH then Hogan then Taker. Remember when title runs mean't something, and There were more than one Contender over the time period..... ahh the good ol days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites