Bored 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 Um, not too exciting this week. GMAC Bowl might be fun. TUESDAY New Orleans Bowl: Southern Miss vs. Arkansas State, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN WEDNESDAY GMAC Bowl: Toledo vs. UTEP, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN THURSDAY Las Vegas Bowl: BYU vs. California, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN Poinsettia Bowl: Colorado State vs. Navy, 10:30/7:30 PM, ESPN2 FRIDAY Forth Worth Bowl: Kansas vs. Houston, 8:00/5:00 PM, ESPN SATURDAY Hawaii Bowl: Nevada vs. Central Florida, 8:30/5:30 PM, ESPN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 I'm pretty jazzed about the Hawaii bowl too, in addition to the GMAC bowl. Not only is Hawaii not involved in it for the first time ever (I think), but you've got a UCF team that couldn't buy a win last year versus that really fun to watch Nevada pistol formation offense. As for the GMAC, ESPN/ESPN2 had UTEP on a good few times this year and I caught them once on our Comcast Sports channel against UAB. They might not be the most talented, but damned if they don't come to play every game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 20, 2005 The MAC deserves more respect in the bowls. They're better than having their champ play in a weekday bowl in the afternoon. And 2nd place team play in the early bowls with the New Orleans, Fort Worth and Bluebonnet/Tangerine/Blockbuster/Toilet bowl section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 I think I did these little capsules for three or four games last year before I got Bored so I imagine the same will happen this year. History 2004: Southern Miss 31, North Texas 10 2003: Memphis 27, North Texas 17 2002: North Texas 24, Cincinnati 19 2001: Colorado State 45, North Texas 20 Southern Miss (6-5) Last Bowl Appearance: 2004 New Orleans Bowl (def. North Texas 31-10) All Conference USA Players First Team George Batiste, Guard Kevis Coley, Linebacker Trevis Coley, Safety Luke Johnson, Punter John Eubanks, Kick Returner Second Team Travis Cooley, Guard Tom Johnson, Defensive Tackle Brandon Sumrall, Safety Darren McCaleb, Kicker Third Team Shawn Nelson, Tight End Arkansas State (6-5) First Bowl Appearance All Sun Belt Players First Team Antonio Warren, Running Back Tanner Jenkins, Center Myron Anderson, Defensive Tackle Eric Neihouse, Kicker Second Team Matt Mandich, Tackle Devrett Wade, Linebacker James Johnson, Corner Back/Kick Returner Honorable Mention Nick Noce, Quarterback Khayvam Burns, Safety Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Honorable mention in the Sun Belt. What an accomplishment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 As a sidenote Bored, I'm applying to Florida State for law school. That pic you posted of the FSU girls in the college football thread a couple of weeks ago pushed me to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Oklahoma starting cornerback Chijioke Onyenegecha was suspended for the Holiday Bowl. Thats just about the worst spot to lose a defensive player for the Sooners since Oregon rarely has fewer than 3 receivers on the field at a time and they're all pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 As a sidenote Bored, I'm applying to Florida State for law school. That pic you posted of the FSU girls in the college football thread a couple of weeks ago pushed me to do it. Huzzah. The FSU Cowgirls will be in the March issue of Maxim and then to complete their 15 minutes of fame in the May issue of Playboy. I'm sure the ABC cameras will be keeping on a eye on them during the Orange Bowl. The MAC deserves more respect in the bowls. They're better than having their champ play in a weekday bowl in the afternoon. And 2nd place team play in the early bowls with the New Orleans, Fort Worth and Bluebonnet/Tangerine/Blockbuster/Toilet bowl section. MAC kinda sucked this year although Northern Illinois deserved to go over someone like Houston. There's something definently wrong with Conference USA having six bowl teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Oklahoma starting cornerback Chijioke Onyenegecha was suspended for the Holiday Bowl. Thats just about the worst spot to lose a defensive player for the Sooners since Oregon rarely has fewer than 3 receivers on the field at a time and they're all pretty good. Suckbag sucks more than any other player on defense. I have no clue why he's a starter. So yay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Well he's a starter because he's the best they have. Apparently Stoops doesn't think he's a suckbag and he was 2nd team all Big 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 20, 2005 I know. Why doesn't Dama respect Stoops' opinion? Always underrating OU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 20, 2005 MAC kinda sucked this year although Northern Illinois deserved to go over someone like Houston. There's something definently wrong with Conference USA having six bowl teams. Yes, this was a weak year for the MAC. But, they're still better than 2 shitty bowls. I'd put them up with C-USA, now. Especially since UCF went to their title game... yet, couldn't even win games in the MAC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 Well he's a starter because he's the best they have. Apparently Stoops doesn't think he's a suckbag and he was 2nd team all Big 12. He's constantly out of position and he's dropped more INTs than he's actually made. I don't like him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2005 At least he was in position to have INTs. He must be doing something right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 Not only is Hawaii not involved in it for the first time ever (I think), but you've got a UCF team that couldn't buy a win last year versus that really fun to watch Nevada pistol formation offense. Well, it is only the fourth annual, but I guess "ever" is appropriate for a pro wrestling forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 I agree the Toledo-UTEP game looks like the best matchup. I like Toledo in that game just because it seems like UTEP lost every big game they played in this year. Gradkowski v. Palmer will be great. Is anyone at all going to watch Kansas-Houston? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2005 History 2004: Bowling Green 52, Memphis 35 2003: #11 Miami of Ohio 49, Louisville 28 2002: Marshall 38, Louisville 15 2001: Marshall 64, East Carolina 61 2000: Southern Miss 28, #14 TCU 21 1999: TCU 28, #21 East Carolina 14 Toledo (8-3) Last Bowl Appearance: 2004 Motor City Bowl (lost to UConn 10-39) Last Bowl Win: 2001 Motor City Bowl (def. Cincinnati 23-16) First Team Bruce Gradkowski, Quarterback Trinity Dawson, Running Back John Greco, Tackle Mike Alston, Linebacker Keon Jackson, Cornerback Second Team Chris Hopkins, Tight End Jason Robbins, Kicker Anthony Jordan, Linebacker UTEP (8-3) Last Bowl Appearance: 2004 Houston Bowl (lost to Colorado 28-33) Last Bowl Win: 1967 Sun Bowl (def. Mississippi 14-7) All Conference USA Players Second Team Jordan Palmer, Quarterback Johnnie Lee Higgins, Wide Receiver/Punt Returner Josh House, Tackle Jose Garcia, Guard Alex Obemese, Defensive End Thomas Howard, Linebacker Jeremy Jones, Linebacker Third Team Tyler Ebell, Running Back Chris Francies, Wide Receiver Troy Collavo, Linebacker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Tyler Ebell is a nasty little mofo. I'd love to see him go crazy tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Not only is Hawaii not involved in it for the first time ever (I think), but you've got a UCF team that couldn't buy a win last year versus that really fun to watch Nevada pistol formation offense. Well, it is only the fourth annual, but I guess "ever" is appropriate for a pro wrestling forum. Dude, coming from someone who likes a team that helps spell Citrus, it annoys the hell out of me when a team keeps going to the same bowl over and over again. Three years straight is kind of monotonous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Fair enough. The Hawai'i bowl rule was in place to safeguard against both teams not traveling well. At least with Hawai'i, you've got 50,000+ people willing to see the Warriors play in a bowl. With UCF/Nevada, there aren't many local residents who are willing to see that, and I have a hard time buying Central Floridians traveling here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Aloha Stadium's capacity is only 50,000. 38,322 was the largest crowd they get for the Hawaii Bowl. They did sell out the 1989 Aloha Bowl when they played Michigan State but that was their only appearance in that bowl. Just searched for ticket information to this year's game and as of December 16th Nevada had only sold 75 tickets for their rooting section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Aloha Stadium's capacity is only 50,000. 38,322 was the largest crowd they get for the Hawaii Bowl. True, but they did 40,974 for the Oahu Bowl with Oregon State when Lelie played, which is arguably the best season the Warriors have had. AF/UW did 34,803 the year previous, and Georgia/Virginia did 24,187 in 2000. You can see the floor for those who will attend each game, and taking in account it was a Christmas-day doubleheader, that's death for the fans. Just searched for ticket information to this year's game and as of December 16th Nevada had only sold 75 tickets for their rooting section. And it will only get worse. Just move the date of the game away from Christmas already. Placing a two-day radius around Christmas day would be beneficial for the bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I'm all about useless facts and lists so here is the all-time attendance rankings for the old Christmas tradition that was the Aloha Bowl. 1. 50,000 (1989 Michigan State 33, Hawaii 13) 2. 46,451 (1998 Colorado 51, Oregon 43) 3. 44,862 (1994 Boston College 12, Kansas State 7) 4. 44,598 (1997 Washington 51, Michigan State 23) 5. 44,009 (1993 Colorado 41, Fresno State 30) 6. 43,380 (1996 Navy 42, California 38) 7. 42,933 (1992 Kansas 23, BYU 20) 8. 41,777 (1984 SMU 27, Notre Dame 20) 9. 41,111 (1995 Kansas 51, UCLA 30) 10. 40,974 (1999 Wake Forest 23, Arizona State 3) 11. 37,212 (1983 Penn State 13, Washington 10) 12. 35,183 (1985 Alabama 24, USC 3) 13. 35,132 (1988 Washington State 24, Houston 22) 14. 34,433 (1991 Georgia Tech 18, Stanford 17) 15. 30,055 (1982 Washington 21, Maryland 20) 16. 26,743 (1986 Arizona 30, North Carolina 21) 17. 24,839 (1987 UCLA 20, Florida 16) 18. 24,397 (2000 Boston College 31, Arizona State 17) 19. 14,185 (1990 Syracuse 28, Arizona 0) MVPs of the 1987 game? Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I actually wanted to know who the MVP's of the 1990 game were. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Marvin Graves, Syracuse's all-time leader in passing yards, and Arizona cornerback Todd Burden. I searched to find out more about Todd Burden, as I know everyone is dying to know what happened to him, and found this: Todd Burden thought his future was in the NFL. A scholarship football player at the University of Arizona, Mr. Burden, a defensive back, was named his team's most valuable player in the 1990 Aloha Bowl. With some justification, he had his eyes set on the pros. ``My focus was football,'' Mr. Burden said. ``It wasn't until my junior year that I realized about... You got to pay $9.95 to find out what happens! Damn them for leaving me on the edge of my seat! Oh and I was wrong about the GMAC Bowl. Wow this game ended up blowing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 In that vein, here's what I could dig up from sites; Bored probably has the complete list and team MVP awards somewhere: 1987 - UCLA QB Troy Aikman, Florida RB Emmitt Smith 1988 - Washingtion State RG Mike Utley 1990 - Syracuse QB Marvin Graves, Arizona CB Todd Burden 1992 - Kansas DT Dana Stubblefield 1995 - UCLA RB Karim Abdul-Jabbar, Kansas QB Mark Williams 1996 - Navy QB Chris McCoy 1997 - Washington QB Rashaan Shehee 1998 - Colorado QB Mike Moschetti, Oregon QB Akili Smith 1999 - Wake Forest QB Ben Sankey 2000 - Boston College QB Tim Hasselbeck I thought I would never read the name Rashaan Shehee again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leelee Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I knew Graves was (at least one of them). I just wanted to be a smartass. I feel a little sad because I remember who most of those MVP's are. Except for Sankey. And the Kansas guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 I'll fill in the blanks. 1982: Tim Cowan, Washington QB; Tony Caldwell, Washington LB 1983: George Reynolds, Penn State P (yes punter!); Danny Green, WR 1984: Jeff Adkins, SMU RB; Jerry Ball, SMU DT 1985: Gene Jenkins, Alabama RB; Cornelius Bennett, Alabama LB 1986: Alfred Jenksin, Arizona QB; Chuck Cecil, Arizona S 1988: Victor Wood, Washington State WR; David Dacus, Houston QB 1989: Blake Ezor, Michigan State RB; Chris Roscoe, Hawaii WR 1991: Shawn Jones, Georgia Tech QB; Tommy Vardell, Stanford RB 1992: Tom Young, BYU QB 1993: Rashaan Salaam, Colorado RB; Trent Dilfer, Fresno State QB 1994: David Green, Boston College RB; Mike Mamula, Boston College DE; Joe Gordon, Kansas State CB 1996: Pat Barnes, California QB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 Recent History 2004: Wyoming 24, UCLA 21 2003: Oregon State 55, New Mexico 14 2002: UCLA 27, New Mexico 13 2001: Utah 10, USC 6 2000: UNLV 31, Arkansas 14 1999: Utah 17, Fresno State 16 1998: North Carolina 20, San Diego State 13 BYU (6-5) Last Bowl Appearance: 2001 Liberty Bowl (lost to Louisville 10-28) Last Bowl Win: 1997 Cotton Bowl (def. Kansas State 19-15) All Mountain West Players First Team Josh Beck, Quarterback Curtis Brown, Running Back Jonny Harline, Tight End Second Team Jake Kuresa, Tackle Lance Reynolds, Center Manaia Brown, Defensive End Cameron Jense, Linebacker Honorable Mention Justin Luettgerodt, Linebacker California (7-4) Last Bowl Appearance: 2004 Holiday Bowl (lost to Texas Tech 31-45) Last Bowl Win: 2003 Insight Bowl (def. Virginia Tech 52-49) All Pac-10 Players First Team Marvin Phillip, Center Ryan O’Callaghan, Tackle Brandon Mebane, Defensive Tackle Daymeion Hughes, Cornerback Second Team Aaron Merz, Guard Nu’u Tafisi, Defensive End Desmond Bishop, Linebacker Donnie McCleskey, Safety Byron Storer, Special Teams Honorable Mention Marshawn Lynch, Running Back Chris Manderion, Fullback Tim Mixon, Cornerback Craig Stevens, Tight End Colorado State (6-5) Last Bowl Appearance: 2003 San Francisco Bowl (lost to Boston College 21-35) Last Bowl Win: 2001 New Orleans Bowl (def. North Texas 45-20) All Mountain West Players First Team Jimmie Kaylor, Punter Second Team Kyle Bell, Running Back David Anderson, Wide Receiver Michael Brisiel, Tackle Honorable Mention Josh Day, Guard Travis Garcia, Safety Robert Herbert, Cornerback Courtney Jones, Linebacker Miles Kochevar, Safety Jesse Nading, Defensive End Clint Oldenburg, Tackle Kory Sperry, Tight End Navy (7-4) Bowl History 2004 Emerald Bowl: def. New Mexico 34-19 2003 Houston Bowl: lost to Texas Tech 14-38 1996 Aloha Bowl: def. California 42-38 1981 Liberty Bowl: lost to #15 Ohio State 28-31 1980 Garden State Bowl: lost to Houston 0-35 1978 Holiday Bowl: def. BYU 23-16 1963 Cotton Bowl: lost to #1 Texas 6-28 1960 Orange Bowl: lost to #5 Missouri 14-21 1957 Cotton Bowl: def. #8 Rice 20-7 1954 Sugar Bowl: def. #6 Mississippi 21-0 1923 Rose Bowl: tied Washington 14-14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) Oh and I was wrong about the GMAC Bowl. Wow this game ended up blowing. Well, I was right about it. In that Toledo was going to kick ass that is. Go me. Edited December 22, 2005 by iggymcfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
