Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted February 14, 2002 I posted this at the old board and for those of you who missed it or haven't heard about this, here you go: From blabbermouth.net “Some of you may have heard about the LIMP BIZKIT guitarist search. Basically, the band has been `touring` the country visiting Guitar Center stores, holding auditions for a new guitarist to replace the one who left the band. “The deal is this. From 7:00 to 11:00 AM you can sign up for a slot to try out that day. The tryouts are from 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM. During this time, they take you into a room to play your stuff. At the end of that time, you leave. They call three to ten people at 5:30 to come back to the place and play in front of LIMP BIZKIT. Out of those people, one is selected to return at 9:00 to jam with the band, and anyone who participated is invited to watch — a free concert, basically. “So I arrive there, with a copy of our band`s full CD in hand. I`m with a friend who wants to try out, so I go ahead and sign up too. We get there at 5:00 AM and we`re 83rd and 84th in line. Not incredibly bad. Free Krispy Kreme donuts and coffee, so all isn`t too bad. “10:00 rolls around. The line is moving slow, but that`s to be expected. We finally get up around the corner of the building to the front of the line at about noon. Current total time there: 7 hours. “Get to the table, and I notice there`s a waiver you have to sign. No problem, standard stuff. Then I notice it`s a three-page contract. This contract basically said that if you play, you must sign the contract. Okay. No big deal here either. So I keep reading it. An interesting note. Anything you play canNOT be copyrighted, and can be used by LIMP BIZKIT in audio, video, or recorded form of any sort. Other big words which basically translated to the fact that if you play something, they are fully authorized to steal it and use it on a CD. The artist agrees to zero compensation and zero rights over the track, and will get their name in the liner notes `if possible`. “This didn`t sit well, as me and the guy I was with were planning on playing something we wrote with [our band] STARFRONT. So we sign it and decide to make something up. An annoyance at the very least, but we`d waited seven hours to get this far. “Then we got to stand in the parking lot for another two hours. We finally get inside at about 2:30, where it`s another 30-minute wait for your turn. Current total time there: 10 hours. “So then we get the `rules`. They are outlined for us straight out. No guitar solos. No playing cover songs. No playing copyrighted material. No playing LIMP BIZKIT songs. “This effectively means that you`re forced to play something that you made up, but don`t have a copyright for. You may see where this is going. “Entering the room, there`s one guy. He`s got a mute button under his foot. His job is to make sure you follow the rules. If you break any, you get muted and kicked out immediately. So I go in, and there`s one amp for me to plug into, and the settings are turned to `mud`. It sounded awful, and was not pleasing to the ears. And it was loud enough that the awfulness didn`t go away for some time. Then comes another fun part. “ `You have 60 seconds to play. Starting now.` “One f.cking minute?! I mean, f.cking... okay. So since the thing I`d been planning was two minutes and thirty seconds, I cut most of the parts out. Kept it under time (about 57 seconds), but it still sounded worse than a handful of ass due to that beautiful amplifier (hmm). And I leave the room and the line proceeds. We`re told that the winners will be announced at 5:30. And that we are to remain in the front parking lot until that time. No leaving. Period. This makes for unhappy people. We`re talking 200+ people here, plus any wives / girlfriends / husbands / boyfriends / family / friends which accompanied them. But what can you do? We stay until 5:30. Total current time there: 12 hours, 30 minutes. “5:30 rolls around. People are getting ansi. The band management promised `free pizza`. It came, and there were two boxes of pizza. Two large pizzas. For about two hundred people at least. No cool points here either. Anyway, the clock keeps ticking, and it`s 6:00 before we notice anything going on. Guitar Center management flags all their people and security to come inside to discuss something. They go in there, and the guy in charge walks out with a megaphone. After getting everyone`s attention, the guy on the megaphone speaks: “ `This competition has been called off effective immediately and will not be rescheduled. The band will not be performing with nor for anyone. They will not be signing autographs. This is beyond our control, but please exit the area immediately.` “The guy then proceeds to enter back inside the huge glass doors, and two armed officers stand behind the door. They lock the building as the massive amount of people head directly towards them. After reaching the building, people start going apesh.t. Cops are called in basically a way to clear the crowd. After about an hour, most have gone home or been `taken` home by the police. The radio station is completely screwed, having brought their entire broadcast booths out to cover it. Everyone is very, very pissed. Me and the other guy stayed awhile to figure out what was going on. It`s now about 7:30 PM. “FM99 is having a field day with it. They`re referring to this as `F.ck Fred Durst Friday`, taking calls in from people who went. But unless you`ve read this carefully, I don`t think you understand what happened. “LIMP BIZKIT now has over 200 guitar parts, written by various artists around here, which are unowned and not copyrighted. LIMP BIZKIT now owns these riffs. LIMP BIZKIT just stole 200 pieces of material right out from under these guitarists` noses, myself included. If I`d played something off our CD, I would be ABSOLUTELY pissed. I *am* absolutely pissed. They have completely ripped off hundreds of people, and they`re getting away with it because they can. They`re on their way to Georgia, and the radio station here has given out request line numbers for the stations down there for us to call and let them know what`s happening over the course of this event, to warn them. But people aren`t going to buy it. They`re going to go and get their sh.t stolen too. “Someone needs to beat the living hell out of him. He`s an asshole, and someone who doesn`t deserve to be breathing the same air as a f.cking cockroach. “To add insult to injury, Guitar Center ran a contest where the winner would get to watch the band play even if they didn`t play guitar. One person and a friend. That person also won an autographed Gibson Les Paul Studio ($1500+ guitar) by the band. She showed up after a near 200-mile drive to the area. Guitar Center told her that the band refused to acknowledge the contest at this point, and so not only did she drive three and a half hours for no performance (which she took her ten-year-old kid to see as his first concert), but apparently the guitar wasn`t given either. All because the band wanted to be one giant collective asshole. “If any of you know anyone who`s considering going to these tryouts, show them this message. If they have any questions they can contact me directly. I`m doing everything I possibly can to make sure this does NOT happen to anyone else. It`s not my stuff I`m concerned about — our CD is copyrighted completely and legally — but I`m guessing 90% of the local bands who passed Durst a copy of their CD are going to be f.cked. Many bands, especially newer local ones, don`t have the money or know-how to copyright their stuff, and by giving it to them tonight, they just basically tossed them a new LIMP BIZKIT CD if Fred wants to do that. I wouldn`t be surprised if he copyrights their sh.t tomorrow. “It hurts to look around and see hundreds of people get excited at the chance to be able to make something of their guitar work to have a shot at being in a popular band, making a living doing what they dream of. Fred Durst and LIMP BIZKIT are taking that dream and fucking it over. And anyone who wasn`t there who just caught the coverage at noon and 5:00 on the news just think everything is perfect. Happy Fred Durst in front of the cameras behind the place, fenced off, saying how good the turnout is and how happy everyone seems, and talking about all the great sh.t he`s hearing. That man is the true meaning of a music label representative. He`s the perfect salesman and nice guy in front of the media, and turns around and screws everyone involved in the ass without having to take any hit in his overall popularity, and possibly gaining a sh.t ton of new music in the process that he`s ripped from people. “Not many things piss me off, but I`m pissed off. I`m not the only one. All sorts of `this band is playing tonight at this place, and they`d like me to announce to Fred Durst that if you`re still in the area and you come to this venue, you will be able to see what a REAL band is like — right before the real band beats your skull in.` This radio station is sick of the sh.t from this band, and so are its listeners. If this keeps happening, I wouldn`t be surprised if some sh.t goes down somewhere really damn soon. If it does, I`ll let you know.” And here's Fred's reply to "all the haters": From Kerrang.com, "Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst has spoken out against people who have condemned the band's 'Put Your Guitar Where Your Mouth Is' tour as an exercise in ripping off 'the kids'. Overblown reports, primarily on the internet, have criticised the Bizkit for making applicants sign contracts, and even for intending to steal their riffs. Here is Fred's reaction in full... "Hello everybody, this is Fred. I want you to listen and listen close. That includes every piece-of-shit talking shit and every hater talking shit. This is specifically written for you in all honesty. Everything we, Limp Bizkit, do is motivated and driven by our love for our fans and love for what we do. All these fucking "he said - she said" bullshit rumors about what's going on with the guitar search are horseshit. Anyone who is mad about their experience trying out for limp bizkit at Guitar Center simply and plainly 100% sucked!! There are a lot of people waiting to audition each day and when they come in the room to play guitar they get up to 60 seconds to give us a sample of what it is they do and what they're about. If at any time during the 60 seconds they are interrupted, or asked to stop, then that is their (read between the lines) answer to how "not the right vibe" they are for anything pertaining to limp bizkit or any project limp bizkit is working on. But if they were asked to continue playing or asked to play with the band later that evening, which has been over 20 people on the whole tour, then there was something that was interesting enough to spark our curiosity. People who are auditioning are asked to sign a release so their images and likenesses can be used in any documentary that Limp Bizkit would like to make (MTV, website, etc) in no way whatsoever would limp bizkit ever steal or take anything (music, riffs) from anyone on this planet!! And remember the only person who watches a thief is a thief. We did not record any of the preauditions. Not one. Fuck you haters. Better yourself (a little advice). To everyone else, I can't wait to get back online and into the chat. Things are looking very positive for limp bizkit - you'll be proud and surprised at what's coming your way. Oh yeah... one more thing...fuck you again haters. Love, Limp Bizkit" You can just feel the love... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest super sayan jericho Report post Posted February 14, 2002 I've hated Fred Durst ever since he tried to shit on Korn by claiming that Korn wasn't instrumental in getting them noticed(Family Values anyone?) and later on he attempted to shit on Staind by claiming that they forgot about him simply because they wanted someone other than Fred to direct their videos and they didn't ask him to join them on tour(what would he do for them while their on tour?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the Goon Report post Posted February 14, 2002 I wonder what Jonathan Davis REALLY thinks of Fred Durst, now that Fat Freddy has become All Powerful Durst is the same kinda guy who picked on guys like little Jonny in high school to make him write all his songs. prick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted February 14, 2002 Every single thing I've ever heard about Fred Durst makes him out to be a complete piece of shit. I've never heard ONE good thing about him from anyone who wasn't making money off him. The worst thing? The time they were playing at Woodstock when the riots were breaking out, and literally a dozen women got raped in the mosh pit while Limp Bizkit was playing. When Rolling Stone asked Durst about it, his response was "Shit happens, people are gonna rock no matter what." Ratfuck bastard. He goes on my short list of people I'd love to beat the living shit out of someday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KoR Fungus Report post Posted February 14, 2002 God what a fucking asshole. Unfortunately, he can do this shit as much as he wants and no one big is going to call him on it, because they're too busy making money off his horrible music. As usual, it's the little guys that get screwed over. I loved Fred's little tirade, too. Fear the maturity. It's especially pathetic given that the people he's lashing out against were probably some of his biggest fans, before he fucked them over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hardyz1 Report post Posted February 14, 2002 What, did you think they were just joking in that contract? If you don't like what's in the contract, then don't do it. Durst is still an asshole, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kevin Sullivan Booked My Divorce Report post Posted February 14, 2002 You know what, Fred is right. Fuck you haters! I used to be a hater, but then I stopped listening to the "he said-she said" shit. If you guys don't like it, guess what, it's his way or the highway....CAUSE THIS IS HOW WE LEARN....THIS IS HOW WE BURN. Think about it. Think about it. Oh my! Where you at? Come on. I know you're feeling it baby. I know you're feeling it. Come on. Bring the beat baby I said this is how it should be done. This is how it should be done. Cause my style, is identical to none. Outta here! I'm gettin' the hell outta here. Limp Bizkit style. Hey Lethal, wait up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 15, 2002 I don't hate or like him. I don't really like to listen to his music so I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted February 15, 2002 If I had a magic lamp, and a genie popped out and granted me three wishes, I would make sure that one of them be for Fred Durst. I would wish that he die a slow, painful, agonizing death from complications of a dozen or so venereal diseases. If Limp Bizkit is our generation's representation for rock music, I may have to start listening to country. I'll take Garth Brooks over Fred any day of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Snappy Nappy Dugout Report post Posted February 15, 2002 You know what, Fred is right. Fuck you haters! I used to be a hater, but then I stopped listening to the "he said-she said" shit. If you guys don't like it, guess what, it's his way or the highway....CAUSE THIS IS HOW WE LEARN....THIS IS HOW WE BURN. Think about it. Think about it. Oh my! Where you at? Come on. I know you're feeling it baby. I know you're feeling it. Come on. Bring the beat baby I said this is how it should be done. This is how it should be done. Cause my style, is identical to none. Outta here! I'm gettin' the hell outta here. Limp Bizkit style. Hey Lethal, wait up. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!Your jokeing.....right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrEvil Report post Posted February 15, 2002 It'll be interesting to see the reaction when Limp Bizkit has a #1 hit and one of the guitarists who auditioned claim it's their work. This will happen, whether it's the truth, or a blatant lie to try to cash in on this theory. I'm looking at both sides of the story here and while I'm sure there were circumstances preventing LB from showing up, they do seem to be total pricks here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Metal Maniac Report post Posted February 15, 2002 People who are auditioning are asked to sign a release so their images and likenesses can be used in any documentary that Limp Bizkit would like to make (MTV, website, etc) in no way whatsoever would limp bizkit ever steal or take anything (music, riffs) from anyone on this planet!! And remember the only person who watches a thief is a thief. We did not record any of the preauditions. Not one. Read that paragraph I quoted. Apparantly, the release was there so they could use the people's images in a documentary. Now, unless I miss my guess, a documentary would be on film. In order for it to be on film, wouldn't they have HAD to record something? But no, they didn't record anything. So apparantly, when they make this alleged documentary, they're going to have to call up the people they want in it, and re-enact the whole thing. In which case, they had NO reason to make anyone sign anything, as the only people who would need to sign the release would be the people who they called back. I dunno...does that seem weird to you guys too? Either I missed something, or someone's lying about something... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ratboy Report post Posted February 16, 2002 Never was, never will...have an original thought of his own. I hope he goes completely bald, and then can't find his dumb-ass red cap. He'll look like Ron Howard, but with so much less talent. It'll be great. I must be a hater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted February 17, 2002 I guess the guitarist that quit the band was a hater too. Fred Durst is a ratprick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sassquatch Report post Posted February 17, 2002 The former guitarist that left Limp Bizkit is Wes Borland. He is actually very good and likes what he does. Wes was the only member from Limp Bizkit that would get respect from the "haters". And we should all wish him luck in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted February 17, 2002 Big Dumb Face...'nuff said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghast Report post Posted February 17, 2002 Why do people like Borland so much? He seems to be an asshole too but everyone lumps praise on him because he left. Where did Fred's statement come from? He usually does his bullshit on MTV, but they wouldn't let him let loose with all the swears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Judas14 Report post Posted February 18, 2002 Why do people like Borland so much? He seems to be an asshole too but everyone lumps praise on him because he left. Where did Fred's statement come from? He usually does his bullshit on MTV, but they wouldn't let him let loose with all the swears. The love-hate relationship with Wes comes from the fact that he comes off being more humble and less full of shit than Durst does. Plus he actually has talent while Durst doesn't... And Durst's statement is also on the official LB website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 18, 2002 That is one of the main reasons Wes Borland is popular with the "Haters" because he Left and always seemed to want to have fun un like Freddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Hijo Del Lunatic Report post Posted February 18, 2002 Can't we all just go back to hating Fred Durst for being an untalented, coattail-riding, know-nothing, egotistical, half-retarded waste of carbon that can't carry a tune, can't rap worth half a shit and can't even seem to yell into the microphone right half the time? So he tried to fuck over a bunch of naive musicians. Let's go back to hating because he sucks at what he does and makes millions of dollars because of his suck-tacularity, while other, better bands wallow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted February 24, 2002 That is one of the main reasons Wes Borland is popular with the "Haters" because he Left and always seemed to want to have fun un like Freddy. I'd say Fred Durst enjoys what he does. I don't like him, but I think he likes performing and making music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 24, 2002 Making Music? I don't think he is really MAKING MUSIC but does he enjoy fame? Oh,yeah. Why you think he signed Puddle of Mudd and hooked with Staind and Korn? So he could latch onto their fame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites