Lack of attention to details regarding nwo

[Guest Army Eye]

Hey...in every marks heart the Main Event at WrestleMania should be HHH vs. Austin.

 

If the NWO costs both of them their matches...oh boy would that piss the marks off.

Yes, very true.  I just think that would be more of the marks being pissed that their favorite guys weren't going, and not so much that it's not the traditional kind of Wrestlemania main event.   But whatever, I think we're basically in agreement here. If they do all this and play up the Jericho defending his country at Wrestlemania, then I think it would do very well.

 

Man in blak brings up some good questions.  It does put the bookers in a tricky spot.  The question is how far the WWF wants to go with the NWO.  One of the things that made it work so well the first time around was that WCW put all of their eggs in one basket (the NWO basket).  I can't remember the NWO losing a single match from BATB '96 all the way to Luger beating the Giant at Starrcade '96.  They took a risk and put everything they had into pushing the NWO, and it worked.  No way the WWF pushes them THAT much, but they should give them a very big push nonetheless, and they need to come out of Wrestlemania with the upper hand (winning at least 2 out of the 3 big matches is a must) and many big wins after that.

 

It may seem wrong for heels to be going over so much at a Wrestlemania, but remember that Wrestlemania has typically been the event that is the blowoff for the major feuds/angles (in which the faces would logically go over).  In this case, the NWO angle is only just beginning..

[Guest Sakura]

That doesn't leave much of an undercard though. Why not put the nWo in a 6 man match and save the singles matches for other ppvs?

[Guest Big Poppa Popick]

I think I just had a smarks wet dream

 

damn that card rocks...

throw in a good gimmick match, and we got ourselves one awesome party...

 

jericho/angle in toronto would be insta****

[Guest Dark Lotus]

I don't have a problem with it, really.  We established a few weeks ago that Taker has been kissing Vince's ass for 10 years now, so it makes sense that he'd be on "the winning side" w/Vince.

 

Angle's still trying to get close to Steph, maybe that's why he's still sticking close.  At any rate, he's always been by Vince's side (except for those 2 weeks or so before SurSer).

[Guest Lil Naitch]

I've heard that Wrestlemania is going to be 3+ hours long, so having all of those singles is not out of the question. Anyways, ad Mr. Perfect, Storm, DDP, and Booker T, and add a tag title match, and you got a rocking card.

[Guest Tony149]

This WM is going to be the biggest ever in terms of "star power". I still think they should give the nWo the big push now. You never know how long the fans will care about them or their angle.

[Guest Eraser2K2]

Yeah, that card does look very stacked.  But I also see a problem with it.  No Way Out has a triple main event, and the bookers are having a horrible time building it up, as is evident from this past weeks Raw and Smackdown.  The WM card would essentially be a quadrouple main event.  I just don't see there being enough time to promote that, plus maybe 5 undercard matches.  Throw in Hogan, Hall and Nash's selfishness, and it makes it all that much tougher.  Name vaule will probably get a lot of buys alone, and Im pretty sure the WWF has 6 weeks to promote WM.  But it'll be tough.  A 6-man would be a lot better, with the singles matches being on the Raws and Smackdowns before WM.  

 

And with Jericho, I think a lot of Canadians know he is Canadian.  Most Americans probably don't, but they are dumbshits anyway.  Hype the Canada vs America thing a lot, and the World Title Match has a lot of heat.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

As touched on earlier, WM will be approx 4 hours this year, so they'd be plenty of time for the singles matches. As for the problem of promoting 4 main event matches, the nWo matches could be promoted as one in a WWF/nWo mega event alongside the Title match. Also, having the nWo guys wrestle individual matches instead of a 6 man tag would give greater oppotunity for the predicted nWo run-ins in each others bouts.

[Guest Sakura]

There's only 4 weeks from No Way Out to Wrestlemania. That's not a lot of time to build up 4 main event level matches for the biggest show of the year. Even if they start feuding Sunday they will probably only have the matchs annouced 2 weeks before the show.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

But if the 3 nWo matches were pushed as one event, but with 3 parts, rather than 3 wholly seperate entities, there would still be plenty of time to push the title match.

[Guest Sakura]

I suppose so. It's kind of sad they are going to have such a huge set of matches and only 4 weeks to hype it up. WWF always takes forever to sign matches, so it wouldn't surprise me if they wait until the very last minute to sign Rock/Hogan and the others.

 

How about Rock vs. Hogan, Nash vs. Austin and Hall vs. RVD or Edge?

 

What does Kurt do? Undertaker? I wonder if the WWF even has a plan.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

They tend do do the same before every ppv though, have the maint event(s) sorted, then throw the rest of the guys in meaningless matches after a series of crappy run-ins the last week before the show!

The WWF could surprise us all by havig a storming 4 weeks and setting up solid programs for Wrestlemania and beyond, but that's not going to happen!

As for the short build up for mega matches, if this nWo thing starts to go stale and is ditched, these matches could never take place, so I'd say it's better to have them sooner rather than later, and in one go.

That way the nWo is seen as a solid group and the wwf/nWo feud would still be hot enough to cover up the crappy in-ring work.

[Guest Austin3164life]

It's hard to deduce what matches should happen, but I think a Jericho vs. Angle match would be excellent for a Main Event, having it a ladder match.  Angle (in late Feb-early March) could be pushed as the All American, and Jericho as the Pro-Canadian, and Toronto would be a heat engine for the match.  

 

As far as the NWO goes, I don't know about loading the card with three separate Austin/HHH/Rock vs. NWO matches.  Benoit is returning, and RVD/Booker T should get pushed.  Austin/Rock/Triple H should go against the NWO in a 6 man Tag right before the ME.  Nash should cost Triple H his title shot, Hall should cost Rock his revenge, and Hogan should ruin Austin's title chances, setting up the second ME, therefore they can have room to work on the ME with Jericho and Angle, and have RVD go against Edge for the IC Title, and Booker T against Benoit.  There would be four *** matches at least on the card, and if worked right, it could surpass 17 as the greatest WM ever.....

[Guest Tony149]

The WWF would probably announce the main event(s) sooner than they do most events. So they could hype the nWo's first matches back. I also hope they don't wait till the last show to announce the card.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

But that would mean booking longer than one show at a time, and that's not the WWF way!

By the way, Benoit won't be returning til after WM, and why?

Cos Jim Ross said so.

[Guest The Vanilla Midget]

if they have 3 singles matches, the nWo needs to win the balance of them, otherwise the angle is dead in the water.  however if they win clean, it totally destroys the wwf, and the total weak heel who fights in a group mentality of the nWo.  thus, they would have to have screwy finishes to 2 of the matches, and this would piss an awful lot of people off, myself included.  however, if there was a 6 man, the nwo still needs to come out on top, however they can do this with a single screwy ending (steiner), and this would actually build a lot of heat rather than pissing everyone off.

 

btw, mania has a 4 hour broadcast window, but it is reported that the actual show will only run for 3.5 hours.

[Guest theWCWRaider]

The WWF takes better care of WrestleMania than they do the other PPV's, so I suspect that most of the card would be announced before hand.

 

BTW, talk earlier about how the WCW guys weren't draws, well that works 2 ways.

They weren't pulling ratings, but that doesn't entirely have to do with the guys themselves. If the angles are bad, which they were,  then nobody is going to watch regardless of the talent involved.

 

I can't wait for Mania, I think it is going to rock.

[Guest Rabies]

Realistically, here are the possibilities for WM (IMHO):

 

Option 1

Jericho © v HHH

Hall/Hogan/Nash v Flair/SCSA/Rock

 

Option 2

Austin © v HHH

Hall/Hogan/Nash v Flair/Rock/UT (have UT turn face when Vince turns on UT by saying he didn't give a fuck about UT in the first place and he didn't need or appreciate his years of loyalty, great way for UT to come back as the phenom. IT'S A POSSIBILITY and can work if UT is monsterly over as a face again after his turn.)

 

Option 3

HHH v Austin v Jericho © (Flair gives Austin another title shot after being screwed at NWO.)

Hall/Hogan/Nash v Flair/Rock/UT

 

Option 4

Jericho © v SCSA v HHH v Angle (Steph convinces Vince to give Angle a shot)

Hall/Hogan/Nash v Flair/Rock/UT

 

Option 5

Jericho © v HHH

Hall/Nash v Rock/UT

Hogan v Austin

 

Go ahead, praise/bash away!

 

By the way, Angle v Jericho © will NOT happen at WM. I'd bet my life on it.