Bands with the worst fanbase

[Carnival 0]

I agree, KISS has to be up there with ICP.

 

They may not act as retarded, but they still paint their face and dress up. Plus they are typically twice the age of juggalos. That MIGHT make their situation a bit sadder than Juggalos.

[The Decemberists 0]

Smiths fans are generally whiney, pretentious, twats who think they're 'special' and better than others.

 

Fortunatly I'm a Morrissey solo fan so I'm a pretentious twat who thinks I'm 'special' and better than Smiths fans.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

OH yea, you're the guy who thinks Morrissey's solo work is better than The Smiths.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

I'm going to see him on Thursday, I should add, but the new album really is crap.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Ooooooh, what about the Straight-Edgers?

The Straight-Edgers who just live the sXe lifestyle and aren't holier-than-thou are cool with me. I know plenty of them, and I respect them for their beliefs and their willpower (considering how most of their friends are potheads and drunks, that does take a lot of balls to not toke or drink). It's the ones that somehow feel they're better than somebody who likes beer or smokes a BUTT because they don't that piss me off. And usually these motherfuckers just use statistics to rally their claims and have never experienced the joy of a good buzz or how relieving a few drags can be after a long day. Those motherfuckers I wanna punch in the dick and twat, respectively.

 

Re: KISS Army vs. Juggalo's

At least the KISS Army knows it's all a show. That's all I have to say. You don't hear too often about members of the KISS Army running around going "LOVE GUUUUNNNN!!!!!!" and "YOU GOTTA LOSE YOUR MIND IN DETROIT ROCK CITY!!!" to everybody. You'll hear a lot about Juggalo's going "fuck you, faggot" and rambling on and on about how they're "down with the clown" and shit. That...and the KISS Army has dayjobs.

[Carnival 0]

Oh agreed, Kiss fans can at least function in society. Which is what I meant by Juggalos acting like retards. But like I said, on average they are way older than Juggalos, so most of that maturity.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Ooooooh, what about the Straight-Edgers?

My brothers a Straight Edge kid. Fortunately, he's not a dick about it.

[snuffbox 0]

Metal elitists.

[The Decemberists 0]

I'm going to see him on Thursday, I should add, but the new album really is crap.

 

Fuck off is it.

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

You're offended by people who cherish high quality music over garbage? I sometimes wish I had the capacity to just shut my brain off like that, it seems like such an...easy existence. The best way to implement a quality society it seems would be to walk the streets blasting Pantera (and their ilk...they're all interchangeable anyway) cd's and shoot all the degenerates who comes running out with their recently lubed boyfriends to rock out.

 

The poster who namedropped Burzum (as if he thought he was actually allowed to say that name from his semen encrusted lips) was ultimately just going by 4th hand information from a Jewish propoganda site and probably has never had the opportunity to study the music properly before formulating his judgement. Go back to your TV shows and radio hits.

 

Y'all should do like Slayer and actually try to do some basic research on it before speaking on it.

[snuffbox 0]

That was interesting.

[ZGangsta 0]

I think he just proved your point.

[Gary Floyd 0]

The poster who namedropped Burzum (as if he thought he was actually allowed to say that name from his semen encrusted lips) was ultimately just going by 4th hand information from a Jewish propoganda site and probably has never had the opportunity to study the music properly before formulating his judgement. Go back to your TV shows and radio hits.

Well, let me apologize: I'm sorry Burzum sucks.

[Dr. Zoidberg 0]

I hate any and every person that says that Thursday is darker than Joy Division. Or that Fall Out Boy is more punk than The Clash.

 

Pretty much scene kids. Fuck scene kids.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Or that Fall Out Boy is more punk than The Clash.

 

...people actually say this?

[Dr. Zoidberg 0]

Stupid people, yes.

 

One girl I met in Arizona said, while wearing a Clash shirt none-the-less, that Fall Out Boy is more punk than The Clash. Her reason?

 

"Ohmygod...they just play so FAST!"

 

I wanted to slap her.

[nl5xsk1 0]

You're offended by people who cherish high quality music over garbage? I sometimes wish I had the capacity to just shut my brain off like that, it seems like such an...easy existence. The best way to implement a quality society it seems would be to walk the streets blasting Pantera (and their ilk...they're all interchangeable anyway) cd's and shoot all the degenerates who comes running out with their recently lubed boyfriends to rock out.

 

The poster who namedropped Burzum (as if he thought he was actually allowed to say that name from his semen encrusted lips) was ultimately just going by 4th hand information from a Jewish propoganda site and probably has never had the opportunity to study the music properly before formulating his judgement. Go back to your TV shows and radio hits.

 

Y'all should do like Slayer and actually try to do some basic research on it before speaking on it.

Leave it to the Jews to spread their hate-filled, anti-Burzum "propoganda". I have no idea who Burzum is, but obviously they're (or he is, if it's a singular person) must be great if the Zionists are after them.

[Murmuring Beast 0]

RE Morrissey album: Ray Davies's album was better.

[Gary Floyd 0]

You're offended by people who cherish high quality music over garbage? I sometimes wish I had the capacity to just shut my brain off like that, it seems like such an...easy existence. The best way to implement a quality society it seems would be to walk the streets blasting Pantera (and their ilk...they're all interchangeable anyway) cd's and shoot all the degenerates who comes running out with their recently lubed boyfriends to rock out.

 

The poster who namedropped Burzum (as if he thought he was actually allowed to say that name from his semen encrusted lips) was ultimately just going by 4th hand information from a Jewish propoganda site and probably has never had the opportunity to study the music properly before formulating his judgement. Go back to your TV shows and radio hits.

 

Y'all should do like Slayer and actually try to do some basic research on it before speaking on it.

Leave it to the Jews to spread their hate-filled, anti-Burzum "propoganda". I have no idea who Burzum is, but obviously they're (or he is, if it's a singular person) must be great if the Zionists are after them.

Here's all you need to know.

 

Aslo, it doesn't help that the music of Burzum is horrible. Really, try listening to it. It's poorly recorded, annoying, and the "ambient passages" are just a guy noodling around with a casio keyboard. It's dreadful music that's so bad, it makes Insane Clown Posse seem good. Plus, at least ICP have a sense of humor. The guy from Burzum (it's a one man project) is completely serious about all of his ideologies, and about all of his shitty "music".

 

So again Thumbtack: I'm sorry that Burzum sucks, and I'm sorry that the truth hurts. Burzum sucked back then, it sucks right now, and it will suck in the future. In the end, Burzum always have, and always will, suck.

[Youth N Asia 0]

Metal fans who shit on anything else.

 

White kids that was waaaaay into rap where it's comical.

 

REM fans who think they deserve extra credit for liking the band before they hit big

[nl5xsk1 0]

Cool, thanks, lovecraft ... I'd presumed that he/they had something to do with that whole Mayhem debacle, but it was just a presumption.

 

While I'm wicked anti-Racist, I'm not necessarily of the mind-set that all racist music is bad (e.g., Hail the New Dawn by Skrewdriver is an awesome album, with very few week tracks, and I think that Prussian Blue is pretty awesome as well) ... but everything that I've heard by or about that whole Nationalist Black Metal scene has been laughably bad. Must be the Jewish "propganda".

[Gary Floyd 0]

Cool, thanks, lovecraft ... I'd presumed that he/they had something to do with that whole Mayhem debacle, but it was just a presumption.

 

While I'm wicked anti-Racist, I'm not necessarily of the mind-set that all racist music is bad (e.g., Hail the New Dawn by Skrewdriver is an awesome album, with very few week tracks, and I think that Prussian Blue is pretty awesome as well) ... but everything that I've heard by or about that whole Nationalist Black Metal scene has been laughably bad. Must be the Jewish "propganda".

What's really funny is when you hear Burzum fans praise his lyrics and vocals for being honest and expressing his "pain and anguish" . Um, no and no. His vocals sounded dreadful, and his lyrics are mostly Pro-Aryan bullshit.

 

Also, I think he's being let out of jail sometime this year, which most likely means he'll be returning to do his music. His most recent stuff though, is his attempts at creating ambient music. He couldn't afford a guitar/drumset in jail and decided to not play those instruments so he could get back to his true "aryan roots" of playing shitty instrumental music on a casio keyboard that was manufactured by the Japanese. Anyone who tells you that he's making something "deep and meaningful" through that is an idiot.

 

While I'm at it, check this out. Yeah, that Varg is a brillient man, isn't he?

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

Let's start with a bit on the Allmusic.com post that was quoted

 

Coupled with Vikernes' racist, virulently anti-Judeo-Christian beliefs was a sort of nationalistic pride, a longing to return to the pre-Christian pagan culture and religion that had marked the glory days of the Vikings; this paganism became a frequently recurring theme in black metal circles, and led to the Norwegian metal sound being tagged Viking metal in some quarters.

 

Varg Vikernes did indeed go through a stage in his spiritual development where he did carry some ideals that could be considered racist, however these times for him would be more of a stepping stone in time on the path to a fully established worldview. Similar to rebellious teenagers going through a mohawked and pierced stage before toning down into a more realistic way of life.

 

The rest of the All Music article is small snippets of information and doesn't need to be discussed further at this point.

 

Aslo, it doesn't help that the music of Burzum is horrible. Really, try listening to it. It's poorly recorded, annoying, and the "ambient passages" are just a guy noodling around with a casio keyboard. It's dreadful music that's so bad, it makes Insane Clown Posse seem good. Plus, at least ICP have a sense of humor. The guy from Burzum (it's a one man project) is completely serious about all of his ideologies, and about all of his shitty "music".

 

So again Thumbtack: I'm sorry that Burzum sucks, and I'm sorry that the truth hurts. Burzum sucked back then, it sucks right now, and it will suck in the future. In the end, Burzum always have, and always will, suck.

 

I would never crusade to change anyone's taste in music, but I do work to correct the misinformed and aid in study when it is needed and/or the information presented is tainted or outright wrong. We're diving headlong into ego drama territory here I think, and we don't need to establish our musical taste any further. I won't even call you guys fags this time, honest.

 

Cool, thanks, lovecraft ... I'd presumed that he/they had something to do with that whole Mayhem debacle, but it was just a presumption.

 

While I'm wicked anti-Racist, I'm not necessarily of the mind-set that all racist music is bad (e.g., Hail the New Dawn by Skrewdriver is an awesome album, with very few week tracks, and I think that Prussian Blue is pretty awesome as well) ... but everything that I've heard by or about that whole Nationalist Black Metal scene has been laughably bad. Must be the Jewish "propganda".

 

This type of open-mindedness is very healthy, in my opinion. The problem with NSBM or other racist music outlets is that almost all of them are hindered from the start by performance by racist musicians who have a mixed agenda. This is getting into the territory I've covered a bit in my "Anti Racist Nationalists" thread in CE, which I'll leave with you to read or not. From the NSBM sect of the Black Metal genre, there are very few standout releases, mostly insecure copycats. Prussian Blue is fucking creepy.

 

What's really funny is when you hear Burzum fans praise his lyrics and vocals for being honest and expressing his "pain and anguish" . Um, no and no. His vocals sounded dreadful, and his lyrics are mostly Pro-Aryan bullshit.

 

Have you read his lyrics?

 

Also, I think he's being let out of jail sometime this year, which most likely means he'll be returning to do his music. His most recent stuff though, is his attempts at creating ambient music. He couldn't afford a guitar/drumset in jail and decided to not play those instruments so he could get back to his true "aryan roots" of playing shitty instrumental music on a casio keyboard that was manufactured by the Japanese. Anyone who tells you that he's making something "deep and meaningful" through that is an idiot.

 

How many jailed murderers have you known to be allowed guitars (guitar as blunt weapon, strings as easy strangulation tools) or drums in prison? That's just silly. You're subverting your own arguements with the ad hominem attacks.

 

While I'm at it, check this out. Yeah, that Varg is a brillient man, isn't he?

 

A man who is not prone to roll over and give up attempted to leave an insane system that he hates (and not just because they hold him). Another example where he might just be right. This point is a bit tangential though, and doesn't really deal with the topic at hand.

 

Burzum, through the eyes of it's creator

 

A Burzum Story - http://burzum.org/eng/biography.shtml

[Gary Floyd 0]

Varg Vikernes did indeed go through a stage in his spiritual development where he did carry some ideals that could be considered racist, however these times for him would be more of a stepping stone in time on the path to a fully established worldview. Similar to rebellious teenagers going through a mohawked and pierced stage before toning down into a more realistic way of life

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You Do Realize that he's a neo-nazi skinhead who burned down churches, right? Plus, he was an adult when he made those statements and burned down those churches. There's a difference between a kid going through a stage and an adult who's burned down churches and who killed a man. The kid going through a stage will eventually grow out of it. The adult who does these kinds of things should have grown out of it, and is an idiot for doing things even the basic rebellious teenager knows is wrong.

 

Have you read his lyrics?

Yes, and they read like pretentious, racist neo-socialist bullshit with bogus "Pagan" philosphies. If I read it as racist bullshit, then I think it's racist bullshit.

 

A man who is not prone to roll over and give up attempted to leave an insane system that he hates

Oh yes, rebelling against "the system", how great of him! Sorry, but that's not going to convince me that he's a genius. It only tells me that he's still a dumbass, and one who still hasn't grown out of his "rebellious" stage he should have grown out of when he was a fucking teenager.

 

How many jailed murderers have you known to be allowed guitars (guitar as blunt weapon, strings as easy strangulation tools) or drums in prison? That's just silly. You're subverting your own arguements with the ad hominem attacks.

I mentioned that he wasn't allowed to have guitars. Besides, his music in prison still sucks.

 

Burzum, through the eyes of it's creator

 

A Burzum Story - http://burzum.org/eng/biography.shtml

Yeah, I should really belive a guy who stabbed someone to death and tried to escape prison. Sorry, not going to happen.

 

Look, it's ok that You like Burzum. I just hate his music.

 

Besides, all of your defending of Varg is null and void thanks to this statement:

 

The poster who namedropped Burzum (as if he thought he was actually allowed to say that name from his semen encrusted lips) was ultimately just going by 4th hand information from a Jewish propoganda site and probably has never had the opportunity to study the music properly before formulating his judgement. Go back to your TV shows and radio hits.

 

Again

was ultimately just going by 4th hand information from a Jewish propoganda site

 

Yep, you sure are a reliable source.

 

Gee, what's next? Are going to tell us all that the Holocaust never happened? Way to shoot yourself in the foot buddy.

 

Oh, and by the way: I never went to a "Jewish Propaganda" site to find my information. I got my information from the truth. He's a racist asshole, a psychopath, a murder, an arsonist, and a hypocrite. If your going to believe some neo-socialist asshole, then all of your defenses towards him are now useless in my eyes, and I'm sure they are useless in the eyes of others here. Besides, I've tried listening to his music. Several times in fact, and I still think it's shitty music, and nothing is going to change my mind.

 

Again, it's ok that you like Burzum, but there's no need to attack someone for not liking that music, and for thinking that the man behind that music is scum.

 

End of story. I am through arguing with you. Just quit trying to defend the guy, and quit trying to convince me (and others) otherwise, because it's not going to happen.

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

You Do Realize that he's a neo-nazi skinhead who burned down churches, right? Plus, he was an adult when he made those statements and burned down those churches. There's a difference between a kid going through a stage and an adult who's burned down churches and who killed a man. The kid going through a stage will eventually grow out of it. The adult who does these kinds of things should have grown out of it, and is an idiot for doing things even the basic rebellious teenager knows is wrong.

 

In the last 2 years or so I've gone through many major changes to my worldview and outlook on life, and I'm in my mid 20's. Since when is it the rule that once you are an adult, you're locked in for life? You're missing or evading the point, I'm afraid.

 

Yes, and they read like pretentious, racist neo-socialist bullshit with bogus "Pagan" philosphies. If I read it as racist bullshit, then I think it's racist bullshit.

 

How about specific examples so we can do this topic properly?

 

Oh yes, rebelling against "the system", how great of him! Sorry, but that's not going to convince me that he's a genius. It only tells me that he's still a dumbass, and one who still hasn't grown out of his "rebellious" stage he should have grown out of when he was a fucking teenager.

 

You didn't address the whole point that I posted.

 

I mentioned that he wasn't allowed to have guitars. Besides, his music in prison still sucks.

 

I didn't see you mention that, I saw you mention that he couldn't afford it, which may or may not be true but is beside the point anyway. We're done worrying about the personal taste of each side of the discussion, remember?

 

Yep, you sure are a reliable source.

 

Ad Hominem. If you were completely confident in your arguement and belief on this matter, you'd have no problem ignoring a bit of quipping on my part and attack my points instead of trying to paint me as a dickhead or idiot, because whether I am or am not is beside the point.

 

By the by, it's ok to say Jewish propoganda, and it's ok to say it in a negative way. Instead of kneejerking, I recommend thinking about it beyond the supposewd taboo. But I digress...

 

Oh, and by the way: I never went to a "Jewish Propaganda" site to find my information. I got my information from the truth. He's a racist asshole, a psychopath, a murder, an arsonist, and a hypocrite. If your going to believe some neo-socialist asshole, then all of your defenses towards him are now useless in my eyes, and I'm sure they are useless in the eyes of others here. Besides, I've tried listening to his music. Several times in fact, and I still think it's shitty music, and nothing is going to change my mind.

 

You obviously are locked in your view of things, and that's ok, but you're wrong at worst, and misinformed at best. And I'll throw a little speculation out there, since things are getting a bit absurd. Maybe you're not capable of understanding this. And that's ok to.

 

Again, it's ok that you like Burzum, but there's no need to attack someone for not liking that music, and for thinking that the man behind that music is scum.

 

I don't care what you listen to, and I'm not attacking you for liking it. If you think I've ever been serious in this thread about jacking you guys up, again, you're just wrong. No harm. I'm working to open new ways of looking at things like this, and attempting to stop disinformation. The reader decides if they will receive it.

 

End of story. I am through arguing with you. Just quit trying to defend the guy, and quit trying to convince me (and others) otherwise, because it's not going to happen.

 

That's ok. I have put out a challenge against some things posted here, and even if you don't benefit from corrections and new ideas, someone else might.

 

All the best

 

Tack

[Gary Floyd 0]

First of all, explain the "Jewish Propaganda" site things you said. I hope that you do realize that that comment alone ruins whatever point you have to make, and that no one is going to take your "points" seriously because of that comment.

 

Give it up already. Quit trying to "prove" things, because it's pointless. You previous statement ruins it all. In other words:

"You Lose! Good Day Sir!"

 

Now, can we please get back on topic and quit talking about Burzum? I hate the band, and I think Varg is scum, and nothing is going to change my opinion. Now lets just move on.

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

Think of any propoganda site you see, be it christian, Satanic, Nazi, Unicorns, Racist, Capitalist, and apply the window dressing of Jewish belief and lobbying. The anti defamation league is a prime example of this. As with any other propoganda/lobby group, there are Jewish sites that support false information. But this really isn't the point of the discussion so you don't need to do me any favours by promising you'll bless me with your knowledge if I explain my way through a non issue.

 

Mountain of a molehill.

[Gary Floyd 0]

Think of any propoganda site you see, be it christian, Satanic, Nazi, Unicorns, Racist, Capitalist, and apply the window dressing of Jewish belief and lobbying. The anti defamation league is a prime example of this. As with any other propoganda/lobby group, there are Jewish sites that support false information. But this really isn't the point of the discussion so you don't need to do me any favours by promising you'll bless me with your knowledge if I explain my way through a non issue.

 

Mountain of a molehill.

Ok, give me proof of Jewish Propaganda Sites. Until then, I have this to say about your latest statement. Oh, and get over yourself.

 

Now once again, can we please get back to the topic at hand, and quit talking about Burzum. I'm losing interest in you and your statements, as you've said nothing relevent that would convince me, or change my opinion. Just quit already.

[Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0]

As I stated before, and will not state again, I'm not here for ego drama. I'm also not here to tell anyone what to like or believe. I'm here to fix informational wrongs that were made and someone felt the need to be personally slighted.

 

Ok, give me proof of Jewish Propaganda Sites. Until then, I have this to say about your latest statement. Oh, and get over yourself.

 

Now once again, can we please get back to the topic at hand, and quit talking about Burzum. I'm losing interest in you and your statements, as you've said nothing relevent that would convince me, or change my opinion. Just quit already.

 

Think of any propoganda site you see, be it christian, Satanic, Nazi, Unicorns, Racist, Capitalist, and apply the window dressing of Jewish belief and lobbying. The anti defamation league is a prime example of this. As with any other propoganda/lobby group, there are Jewish sites that support false information. But this really isn't the point of the discussion so you don't need to do me any favours by promising you'll bless me with your knowledge if I explain my way through a non issue. smile.gif

 

Mountain of a molehill.

 

If you're giving up on the discussion, then do so. Any further posts that are dissmissive or superfluous like this only serve to further wreck the thread you're now desperately trying to get back on track. Perhaps you weren't expecting such opposition at this point? I dunno, just speculating...

[tekcop 0]

I don't care about the arguement at hand, but I just wanted to say that Burzum's one of my favorite bands ever. Thanks.