Guest Arnold_OldSchool Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Many experiments have proved that by direct contact with the human body the same pattern as is on the shroud CANNOT be reproduced. The definition of the facial and coroporal features is blurred when the cloth is placed in direct contact with the subject matter. Also there is NO pigment, or dye of any sort in the cloth. The outline of the corpse is only on the UNDERSIDE of the shroud and not on the upper surface.The impregnation of the form on the cloth is not 100%, whatever caused the impression did it from underneath the cloth and not from above.(IE PAINTING) Whatever caused the outlines is not present on the surface of the shroud. The pollen on the shroud comes from the area where Christ lived. There are imprints of flowers around the body - a burial custom. The imprints of the coins over the eye and one coin slipping off the eye, which I believe are 'dated' with Ceaser on them. The RU dating was flawed, they took a sample from the part of the shroud that had been repaired after the fire. Original fibers were not taken. However…Many false relics were manufactured in the holy lands as crusaders coming home could certainly lend to the authenticity of the items. Indeed, many of the returning soldiers were likely duped by charlatans. So the pollen issue isn't really that impressive. The middle ages, (the time the shroud was dated to, regardless of accepting the fire idea or not), was RIFE with such forgeries, from saint's bones to pieces of the "true" cross, etc. The bottom line, is that if you place a shroud over a body, it will distort and stretch the impression left, and it will look NOTHING like the shroud of Turin. They've tried this numerous times. The shroud was more likely produced with a process more akin to a rubbing of a bas-relief, but with the "blood" mixture applied to the bas-relief (not the cloth), the same way one would do a print (which seems where they went wrong with their re-creation). In fact, I'd wager that many such shrouds were produced in the same way, and sold unscrupulously to Crusaders EDIT: The poll didn't come up for whatever reason, but discuss anyway! Edited April 25, 2006 by Arnold_OldSchool
Twisted Intestine Posted April 25, 2006 Report Posted April 25, 2006 lolz, LA Parka wins. If a human imprint can't leave the mark, believer will argue that it was Jesus. He could do anything, you see?
Gary Floyd Posted April 26, 2006 Report Posted April 26, 2006 No matter what the subject is, I'll just keep voting "La Parka".
Guest Arnold_OldSchool Posted April 27, 2006 Report Posted April 27, 2006 La Parka's image is on the Shroud?
daileyxplanet Posted April 27, 2006 Report Posted April 27, 2006 Where's LaParkaYourCar when you need'em?
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