I think it's time

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I'd say it's about time to go back to the Main eventers holding tag titles for a while again like in the days of Ut/Kane vs HHH/Austin vs Benoit/Jericho  or Kane/Xpac vs Big Show/Taker vs Rock/Foley.  With all the mian eventers and problems on deciding which match gets promoted heavier and which one on one match is the last on the show why not knock out two of those one on one matches by combining them with 2 main event tag teams. I REALLY want to see Jericho/Angle get their little alliance going again and wreak havoc on Smackdown.  Angle needs the tag titles anyway to add to his collection of titles ( WWF World, WCW World, WWF IC, WCW US, WWF Euro, and even a Hardcore title maybe)

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

(spoiler within)

 

I never really got why the belts were taken off Billy/Chuck in the first place as they were going through opponents from RR to Backlash like buttah, but then lost them for no real reason.

 

I am guessing that the WWF has plans for the tag div if (spoiler).......they put the belts back on em.......(spoiler), or else Rikishi will *shudder* find a new partner and go after the gold.

 

I say have a tag tournament.  WHY? Cause a)I love tournaments and b)It is an opportunity to create interest in the division (aka have a division) and c) they can test some teams out.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I like that idea myself.

 

I'd like to see Impact Players reformed to get Storm more TV exposure and a last ditch effort on Credible.

 

Also it was brought up that an Eliminators type team with Saturn/Morrus was in the works.

 

Add that to a few main event tag teams, and there could be hope. Trades definetly just need to be made for the sake of the division. ( Oh and Raven/Kanyon would work also)

[Guest razazteca]

Well that would defeat the purpose of the split, the ME guys will still be on top, still holding on to their spot on the "pecking order".....but what about RAVEN, what about the misery, the garbage, the years of being a glorified backyard hardcore jobber?

 

On Raw I would be very afraid of XPac & Big Show as tag team champs.  Tag team main events are ok, if continues a storyline such as Flair vs Austin or maybe nWo vs Flair.  But what about RAVEN, what about the pain, and the humility of Tommy Dreamer being a sideshow freak?

 

Main Event tag team is ok if it was used to promote the next PPV.  But Whose Better than Kanyon.....

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

I say have a tag tournament.  WHY? Cause a)I love tournaments and b)It is an opportunity to create interest in the division (aka have a division) and c) they can test some teams out.

Yeah, remember when HBK and HHH teamed? Man that turned out GREAT!

[Guest Goodear]

The solution for the tag division is very simply to have more tag teams that get together and stay together for more than a tag title run.  How can anyone get behind the Rikishi/Rico team when everyone knows they'll break up as soon as they lose the titles?  Where did the Al Snow/Maven team disapear to all of a sudden (I know Maven's hurt now, but they has already broken the team up in essence)? Decide on some teams, put them in matching tights and stick with them for extended periods so they can get over and work on double team manuevers.

 

And when I say tag team manuevers, I don't mean the damn double flapjack that every team in the freakin' world uses or the belly-to-back suplex/neckbreaker combination either.  Does it honestly take a genius to figure out the appeal of tag team wrestling lies in the double teaming and hot tags?

[Guest Anorak]

Good tag-team wrestling is pretty much a lost art these days, you have to go back an awful long way to find a quality bunch of teams who had any chemistry or could get good heat in simple ways. Too many ECW matches didn't adopt a traditional tag-team structure while the last decade saw too many awful/mediocre teams in the WWF & WCW. TLC was fun, but were the Hardyz/E&C really great teams? Goodear's ponts and solutions were all valid and correct, all of us basically share the same views on the situation anyway but we still see no move from the WWE to do anything about it. There's so many wrestlers floating around aimlessly and doing nothing at the moment that several new teams could be formed quickly to build up a division that means something again. It was sad to watch the last ppv and see the tag title match be the most heatless on the card.

[Guest caboose]

How dare you question the greatness of Edge And Christian?

Dammit, E&C were one of the 5 best tag teams of the Sports Entertainment Era.

Along with The Steiners, Harlem Heat, The HollyWood Blondes and The New Age OutLaws, E&C owned the tag team division during their reigns and made the Dudley'z, Hardy'z et al look like good teams.

[Guest Ripper]

HA!!! E&C were making the Duds look good???? E&C were 2 singles wrestlers that could cut great promos, thrown together.  They had no tandem moves, and had all of the tag chemistry of any other thrown together team.   The Duds are(well...were) the last true tag-team in the WWF.

 

You want to make the division something...easy.  Take the 2 million wrestlers that aren't doing anything and pair them up.  Give them a freakin NAME(not just the 2 wrestlers name) and a freakin mathcing OUTFIT and a tandem tag move(if you need help here, watch some old ECW tapes.  Every tag team had 4-5 tandem moves that could be used as finishers.) You have the tag tournement(tournaments always make the crowd take intrest) and MAKE the people like it.  

 

THats it.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

I guess you could consider the Hardy Boys an actual tag team, they have a name, and had a move (the splash/legdrop combo) even if they hardly ever use it anymore.

[Guest Risk]

Eh, maybe they should vacate the tag titles until they actually have tag teams.

[Guest Ripper]

I guess you could consider the Hardy Boys an actual tag team, they have a name, and had a move (the splash/legdrop combo) even if they hardly ever use it anymore.

If you ever see them win a match using that trasistional move, then let me know.  A tandem finisher is what every true tag team has ever had.  I would love to see anyone name one of the all time great tag teams without a tandem finisher.  JUST ONE(or two because I know you guys will pull one out )

[Guest converge241]

I would love a tournament to re-establish and defended against both divisions, there are plenty of candidates

(see the old "make 10 tag teams thread")

 

for example:

Rikishi & Haku - the islanders

Storm & Christian , or Awesome, or Credible

Raven & Kanyon (or other Flockers)

Saturn & Malenko (yeah i know Malenko is "retired" but what a great tag name: S&M)

Snow & Maven

Bautista & Brock , maybe with hugh morrus in there to teach one of the rookies(like a Road Warriors)

Spike & a big guy,maybe bubba if they pull the plug or Bradshaw. (hey i thought it worked before)

Xpac & Show (the heel little guy/big guy)

Angle & Storm (a temporary US/Canada dream team)

The island Boyz (obviously not if you already have rikishi & Haku)

the hollys (as the big shots)

York & Matthews (sign em and push em as the 00's rnr express)

 

im sure theres tons of other possibilities i didnt even think of

[Guest dreamer420]

they should stick the titles in the nWo right now.  of course with the champs on smackdown it isn't really possible but imagine x-pac and big show walking up to billy and chuck at king of the ring and demanding at match and then taking the titles back to raw.

[Guest]

I think we need a new tag team that follows the path of the Midnight Express. Just a really awesome tag-team with lots of innovative tandem moves. Maybe Kanyon and Sanders, Nova, or Dave Taylor(he was good on some old WCW tapes I have) could form a team with some name like "The Dream Team," or "The Slaughterhouse" (they'd be managed by Sgt. Slaughter)

 

"Miracle Violence Connection" always sounded cool to me, sorta puro-ish in that it sounds like a mistranslation. Maybe some Lesnar, Rhyno, Harry Smith, or Prototype permutation could use that name. Now that WWE is in a strategic relationship with Viacom, they could have a t-shirt that said "I Want My MVC."

[Guest dreamer420]

dave taylor is going to help rebuild the tag team division?  i don't know about that one dude.  I do agree that the wwe needs a rockers style tag team that can set the division on fire.

[Guest]

Well, maybe not Taylor, but maybe just Nova and Kanyon.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

..I honestly don't see why people want to stick Lance Storm with Justin Credible. One is a talented guy that could fit the Benoit mold (upper midcarder that makes specific main eventers not look like crap)..and the other one is a bald jobber that's in the WWF because he's X-pac's buddy.

 

I just don't get it.

 

Then again, I didn't ever watch ECW.

 

But imo, if it's been done in the past, keep it in the past.

 

-Shiro

[Guest]

I may be late to the party on this, but I saw ECW's Barely Legal for the first time the other day, and some team MUST bring back Total Elimination. I don't care which team does it--hell, Chuckabilly could do it as long as Billy doesn't fuck up his end--but it needs to be done.

 

That said, if they ever pull the trigger on the Canadian Mafia thing, then they should definitely have Storm & Christian pair up. I bet they could pull off a nice Total Elimination, too.

[Guest]

Chuckabilly could do it as long as Billy doesn't fuck up his end

 

ew

[Guest]

Chuckabilly could do it as long as Billy doesn't fuck up his end

 

ew

 

Yes, I'm quite aware of how that reads.

[Guest]

OK. Guys, you remember when the Dudley Boyz first arrived? Only a few people knew them. You know how they got over?

 

 

3-D...and tables.

 

Now, I'm not saying that EVERYONE should use the tables, but all tag teams have a combo move that KICKS ASS. Great teams like the Steiners (Super Bulldog), LOD/Demos (Demo Decapitation), hell, even the Triad (Double Diamond Cutter) and Swinger/What's his name (Problem Solver), had great double teams to get them over. There needs to be some hella cool double team moves. I'd personally die to see the Guillotine Hurracanrana, but then, I don't think I wanna see

anybody die on the job, either.

 

I'd mark out if York and Matthews fuckin showed up. They could make the Hardyz look even gayer than before. And oh yeah, Chris Matthews=Ricky Morton. BOO-YAH!!!!

[Guest Anorak]

Total Elimination was a great finisher, did Joel Gertner get hurt legit when he took it at Barely Legal 97? It looked pretty nasty and i'm sure i've heard something about the incident before somewhere, was the old neckbrace thing not a total joke?

[Guest dreamer420]

he did hurt his neck and I'm pretty sure it was from total elimation but after it healed he kept the neckbrace as part of his gimmick.

[Guest]

I think the problem still is that the Tag titles are only relegated on one show, as long its like that we won't be seeing any impact players or hardys in the title shots..

 

you just got what you got on Smackdown team to make tag teams,  who is even viable as tag teams?

[Guest Shadow]

I fondly remember the Impact Players, so I disagree with the person who didn't want to see Credible and Storm teamed up. Storm isn't getting a maintained singles push anytime soon, so why not let him and Credible rule the tag ranks? Paired with, say, Dawn Marie (who's doing nothing but being another woman for Vince to lust after), the Impact Players could make a serious, well, impact in the current tag divison.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

LOD/Demos had a different finisher... it seemed like you acknowledged them as the same thing.

 

Swingers partner is/was Simon Diamond.

 

Who the hell is Chris Matthews? I think you meant Joey Matthews.

 

BTW, what is a guillotine hurricanrana?