WMX8

[Guest]

I've noticed that a lot of music didn't make it into the game. Some people are saying space limitations, even though a GC disc holds something like 1.2 gigs.... So, no Booker T music, no nWo music, yet somehow.. just SOMEHOW, Stephanie McMahon's Triple H Hand-Me-Down music made it in there.

 

Fucking lame.

 

Also, why is it so hard to have belts on the wrestlers? I've seen numerous current videos where a champ is coming to the ring, yet no belt. This can't be a big deal, I mean, really. If they can put capes on them or water bottles in their hands... shit, THQ did it for WCW/NWO Revenge (around the waist) and No Mercy (over the shoulder - which looked really ugly), why the hell can't they do it for a next gen system game like WMX8.

 

Ack, I'm never going to be satisfied. EVER! ;p

[Guest TUS_02]

Changing the subject slightly... what is the release date for this game?  Can't find a solid answer...

 

...and yeah, not having some of the themes is kinda lame.  Does Book just get generic synth music?

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

No Booker T theme?  Very, very lame.

 

Did the following themes make it: Hurricane, Flair, Chuck & Billy?

[Guest areacode212]

Is there a listing of songs that made it in the game vs. those that didn't. The absence of Booker & the nWo's music is probably due to copyright reasons as opposed to a Stephanie Conspiracy.

 

EDIT: (Booker's music is by some generic music publisher--it was in an episode of Kids in the Hall before it was ever the Harlem Heat theme. And the nWo music may have a similar deal, since some people swear that they've heard it in a porno)

[Guest Cataclysm911]

Changing the subject slightly... what is the release date for this game?  Can't find a solid answer...

 

...and yeah, not having some of the themes is kinda lame.  Does Book just get generic synth music?

June 11th

 

* The submissions are going to suck, the aren't applied for long enough, so working over a body part seems pointless.

 

* The create a wrestler is not going to be good. Did you see IOWgames.com's Brock? My goodness.

 

* Wrestlers still don't stay down for long enough, so top rope moves become painful to connect with.

 

* The tables disappear after they break. That's not good.

 

* The sound is bad. Not just the missing of key entrance songs, but in general.

 

* Certain moves look REALLY bad. The Five Star Frog Splash comes to mind.

 

*Wrestlers don't adjust when coming off the turnbuckle. If you're going for the five star, and they aren't right in front of you, you miss.

 

* The game is already outdated, so they day you play it, it is old. No split. Hall, Nash & Hogan as the nWo. No Brock. No HBK.

 

* The character models all look the same size. Look how buff RVD looks in the movies.

 

* Moves are recycled. For example, The Undertaker has the Rock's Float Over DDT.

 

* Only 5 front grapple moves.

 

For all of you who have yet to see them, here are the movies that I am making reference too:

 

http://www.iowgames.com/wrestlemania/videos/index.shtml

[Guest]

Billy & Chuck aren't in the game. Not sure about Flair's music, since he's hidden. But Hurricane's music is in there. The thing I dont get with the Booker/nWo music - if it IS a copyright thing, then how come they have the rights to use it on Television but nowhere else.. you'd think all of that stuff was bought & paid for when they bought WCW... ?

 

Oh, and cataclysm, I saw those video's too.. when you say the Undertaker has the floatover DDT, I believe that Fred Cook was creating a new wrestler and only cloned the Taker's appearance. The moves were set as defaults. Watch it a few times and you'll see what I'm talkin' about.

[Guest Sakura]

It seems that any theme that is stock music is out. nWo, Booker, Trish, Tajiri, Hardy Boyz, most likely several more themes are NOT in.

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

I agree with most of Cataclysm's reasoning except for 'once you play it, it's old'. That's something unavoidable.

 

I'm still getting it. It'll be better than RAW. It has to be.

[Guest Flyboy]

I agree with most of Cataclysm's reasoning except for 'once you play it, it's old'. That's something unavoidable.

True...

 

I mean WMX8 will be the most updated game ever... some people's dream to finally have RVD face Austin without creating them (RVD if WM2000, NM, etc./Austin if the Acclaim ECW games).  

 

I mean... you can wait for RAW 2 and Shut Your Mouth until they come out in 2003, but I'll take WMX8, thank you.

[Guest]

It has to be remembered that these games are franchises. This is the first one out on Gamecube so will not be likely to standout in any kind of way. They have to leave that room for improvement so we can all go out and buy the inevitable sequal.

[Guest Sakura]

That is so lame though. "It's the first in a series" is not an excuse to cut corners and half ass a product, especially when you KNOW it's going to sell a million copies anyway.

 

And this game uses an existing engine. It is Smackdown 2.5(not 3.5, this title has LESS features than Just Bring It).

[Guest]

Agreed. And that's where the problem lies, knowing they will shift a whole load of copies they'll cut corners to get it to the market as quickly as possible. We all want to play it RIGHT NOW but that demand comes with a price. They know they can get away with a piss poor Smackdown Lite and that's what they will do.

 

You'd think the developer would have some pride in their work though and give us something good but then I remembered these were the people that gave us the original Smackdown CAW.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Billy & Chuck aren't in the game. Not sure about Flair's music, since he's hidden.

WTF?  They've been teaming for how long now, plus being the tag champs for a while?  I can see HBK not being in, since he only came back this Monday, but it's inexcusable to not have C&B in the game.

[Guest]

Billy & Chuck aren't in the game. Not sure about Flair's music, since he's hidden.

WTF?  They've been teaming for how long now, plus being the tag champs for a while?  I can see HBK not being in, since he only came back this Monday, but it's inexcusable to not have C&B in the game.

"Space constraints, man. It's all about the space constraints."

 

I mean, I would have loved to have heard the conversation where it was decided that Stephanie McMahon and Stacey Kiebler were more important as playable characters over the FUCKING TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS!

 

Fucking lame.

[Guest]

WTF?  They've been teaming for how long now, plus being the tag champs for a while?  I can see HBK not being in, since he only came back this Monday, but it's inexcusable to not have C&B in the game.

As far as I'm concerned it's pretty inexcusable to have them IN the game. Though I do relish beating the living crap out of Billy Gun in No Mercy every time I play it. Tap to ultimate submission Billy tap tap tap dammit... )

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

WTF?  They've been teaming for how long now, plus being the tag champs for a while?  I can see HBK not being in, since he only came back this Monday, but it's inexcusable to not have C&B in the game.

As far as I'm concerned it's pretty inexcusable to have them IN the game. Though I do relish beating the living crap out of Billy Gun in No Mercy every time I play it. Tap to ultimate submission Billy tap tap tap dammit... )

I like Chuck, and I wanted to use "You Look So Good To Me" as an entrance theme for my created wrestler.

 

Even worse, you unlock Stacy by winning the *tag belts*

[Guest Flyboy]

I like Chuck, and I wanted to use "You Look So Good To Me" as an entrance theme for my created wrestler.

*smirks*

 

Even if they WERE in the game, I doubt their real themes would be in.  

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

I don't see why not.  Isn't it an original WWF theme?

[Guest Flyboy]

Yes, but... don't know.  The Hardyz only got their Instrumental version of "Live For The Moment" on it, so *shrugs*..

[Guest]

Yes, but... don't know.  The Hardyz only got their Instrumental version of "Live For The Moment" on it, so *shrugs*..

I didn't think there were lyrics in the Hardyz' theme.. Are there? Or are you talking about a Forceable Entry theme that they don't use?

 

I know Lita's theme is intact, (WITHOUT lyrics though).

 

Well, Raven's theme is in there, as is Storm's. Hey, wasn't Storm's music an old WCW "public domain" theme? So, I wonder what the deal with Booker T's music is then.. man this is so backwards.

 

Well, hopefully the rumors of extra themes being in the CAW are true, so that you can fix up some stuff. I also hear that you can edit the wrestlers MOVES this time. FINALLY.

 

[Guest papacita]

A little off topic, but with the nWo music, I never remember hearing it on the bullshit WCW games. They always used remixes. I'm like Seinfeld wondering "What's the deal? Huh?"

[Guest dreamer420]

and I thought the wwe purchased all that stuff from the wcw.  they are using the nWo theme and booker's theme now so I see no reason why they couldn't be in the game.

[Guest Cataclysm911]

Edge's "Never Gonna Stop" by Rob Zombie is not in the game. It's his old "You think you know me" theme.

 

That pisses me off. I won't pick Edge just because of this..

 

I wonder when the game will be available to rent?

[Guest Flyboy]

Well, hopefully the rumors of extra themes being in the CAW are true, so that you can fix up some stuff. I also hear that you can edit the wrestlers MOVES this time. FINALLY.

 

I was talking about the on the Forcable Entry CD, mach.

 

There are 7 CAW themes and the 6 Hidden Characters themes.  And, yes you can edit wrestlers moves.    

 

And Cata, I suppose around a week (or two) until it's out to rent.  Blockbuster and Hollywood always get shifted on new video game releases.

[Guest]

I was talking about the on the Forcable Entry CD, mach.

 

There are 7 CAW themes and the 6 Hidden Characters themes.  And, yes you can edit wrestlers moves.    

*nods*

 

I just finished downloading some Hardyz videos from IOWgames.com and their theme SUCKS! I would have rather had their Jimmy Johnson generic special themesong, rather than the lame ass crap they have in this game. =\

[Guest Flyboy]

I haven't heard their theme, but... eh.  I fear the worst.  I hope they have a theme that is anything close to my CAW's theme (real theme)... I doubt it, though.

 

I downloaded the 7th part of RVD/J. Hardy TLC (damn dial-up), and even as people gripe about the game it looked quite good to me.  Well, fun at least.  And, that's what matters.  I have fun when playing, and I'm sure I'll get tons of it.  And, I really liked when RVD missed the 5-Star... I thought that was pretty sweet.  

[Guest converge241]

(Booker's music is by some generic music publisher--it was in an episode of Kids in the Hall before it was ever the Harlem Heat theme.

 

"Nasty!!"

lol

 

the belt thing irks me a little too. i remember before No Mercy came out they swore they were not only going to wear their titles in the title matches, but would always have the belt while they were the champion and could hold up to three titles on the waist and each shoulder. the music doesnt bother me so much. should be a good game.

[Guest]

I downloaded the 7th part of RVD/J. Hardy TLC (damn dial-up), and even as people gripe about the game it looked quite good to me.  Well, fun at least.  And, that's what matters.  I have fun when playing, and I'm sure I'll get tons of it.

You have a point there. The game does *look* fun to play, and to be honest even though I am a HUGE fan of the No Mercy engine, the Smackdown/fast-paced engine didn't bother me THAT much. So a hybrid of the two could be interesting to play. Plus, there will be more grapple holds this time around (due to starting positions similar to LOW, from what I understand)...

[Guest Renegade]

* The submissions are going to suck, the aren't applied for long enough, so working over a body part seems pointless.

 

* The create a wrestler is not going to be good. Did you see IOWgames.com's Brock? My goodness.

 

* Wrestlers still don't stay down for long enough, so top rope moves become painful to connect with.

 

* The tables disappear after they break. That's not good.

 

* The sound is bad. Not just the missing of key entrance songs, but in general.

 

* Certain moves look REALLY bad. The Five Star Frog Splash comes to mind.

 

*Wrestlers don't adjust when coming off the turnbuckle. If you're going for the five star, and they aren't right in front of you, you miss.

 

* The game is already outdated, so they day you play it, it is old. No split. Hall, Nash & Hogan as the nWo. No Brock. No HBK.

 

* The character models all look the same size. Look how buff RVD looks in the movies.

 

* Moves are recycled. For example, The Undertaker has the Rock's Float Over DDT.

 

* Only 5 front grapple moves.

After looking some of that up, im getting SD4 now...

[Guest Cataclysm911]

* The submissions are going to suck, the aren't applied for long enough, so working over a body part seems pointless.

 

* The create a wrestler is not going to be good. Did you see IOWgames.com's Brock? My goodness.

 

* Wrestlers still don't stay down for long enough, so top rope moves become painful to connect with.

 

* The tables disappear after they break. That's not good.

 

* The sound is bad. Not just the missing of key entrance songs, but in general.

 

* Certain moves look REALLY bad. The Five Star Frog Splash comes to mind.

 

*Wrestlers don't adjust when coming off the turnbuckle. If you're going for the five star, and they aren't right in front of you, you miss.

 

* The game is already outdated, so they day you play it, it is old. No split. Hall, Nash & Hogan as the nWo. No Brock. No HBK.

 

* The character models all look the same size. Look how buff RVD looks in the movies.

 

* Moves are recycled. For example, The Undertaker has the Rock's Float Over DDT.

 

* Only 5 front grapple moves.

After looking some of that up, im getting SD4 now...

Smackdown 4 won't be much better man.

 

Jumping off the TitanTron & Doing moves off of the Hell in a Cell are only fun for so long.

 

I'm waiting for the new Fire Pro games, granted they have failed at a 3D attempt in the past, I don't think that Spike will make the same mistake twice. They know what their fans like.