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Guest Anglesault
you *think*.

I THINK he's friends with Shane or I THINK that's the only reason he is pushed?

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Guest Sakura
Can you think of any OTHER reason to push him?

Same reason Big Show, Albert, Mark Henry, BROCK~!, Kane, Rikishi, Bradshaw, ect. are pushed. He is a hoss(and a young stud, btw).

 

 

I'm not saying Test is good, or SHOULD be pushed, but I haven't seen any credible source say Shane gets himself involved in the writing since around summer of 2000 with Blackman. It isn't fair to blame Shane or to say Test wouldn't be pushed on his own.

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Guest Dangerous A

"I'm sick of the HHHaters taking every thread and ruining it."

 

Your telling me. I just posted something about Angle I heard on WOL that had nothing to do with Vince and had bps and Anglesault just shred my post. Thanks HHHaters. Guess I can't get a decent reply to a regular post without these fuckers pushing their agendas.

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Guest bps "The Truth" 21

oh c'mon.

 

Anglesault ruined that post...I just laughed at it.

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Guest Dangerous A

"Your telling me. I just posted something about Angle I heard on WOL that had nothing to do with Vince and had bps and Anglesault just shred my post. Thanks HHHaters. Guess I can't get a decent reply to a regular post without these fuckers pushing their agendas."

 

 

I meant to say HHH and not Vince on the first sentence. Guess my GROWING HATRED for the seriously disrespectful HHHaters is messing with my typing.

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Guest Anglesault

Same reason Big Show, Albert, Mark Henry, BROCK~!, Kane, Rikishi, Bradshaw, ect. are pushed. He is a hoss(and a young stud, btw).

 

Each one of those guys has at least one guy in the front office publicly backing him.

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Guest Anglesault

Vince, Steph, Heyman, JR, each one of them has their "boys" and those guys fill those roles. JR constantly shills Bradshaw, Kane, Albert, Big Show.

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Guest Flyboy
Who!?

I think pretty much all the hosses has JR going for them...

 

Maybe Brock has Heyman going for him..

 

That's all I can really think of.

 

 

800, BABY!!  :D

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Guest bps "The Truth" 21

All of those people are covered under Vince McMahon's famous "when in doubt...push the big guys" attitude.

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Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly

- run-ins

 

- ref bumps

 

- screw jobs

 

- inconsistent rules

 

- the crappy entrance music

 

- X-Pac's leg-on-the-back-of-the-guy's-neck-backflip

 

- seventy replays of events that happened 10 minutes before

 

- insulting the intelligence of the veiwers to get shitty angles over

 

- gross out humor

 

- Booker T in the midcard

 

- Negotiations with Goldberg and Scott Steiner

 

- Hosses and Studs

 

- Puppies

 

- T&A

 

- Hardcore matches and the Hardcore division

 

- Cheap Heat promos

 

- Hardcore Holly's persistant use of his crappy catch phrase

 

- Everyone trying to be a badass

 

- Blind allegiance for all faces and heels despite whether or not they should dislike each other storyline wise

 

- Reverend D'Von

 

- Brock Lesnar matches

 

- lack of quality tag teams

 

- Jeff Hardy's seizures during his introduction

 

- Matt Hardy's yelling and pigeon-toed moves

 

- Stone Cold

 

- Lawler angles in his hometown

 

- Michael Cole's shittiness as an announcer

 

- Tazz's jokes

 

- Brass knuckles

 

- calling them "brass knucks"

 

- Ineffectiveness of "weapons" and seemingly devestating moves

 

- wrestlers who don't know how to use psychology trying to use it in a half assed manner

 

- Test's blatantly slapping his thigh durig his big boot

 

- Test's immunity

 

- Test's numerous pushes since 1999

 

- Vince McMahon on tv

 

- lack of piledrivers

 

- WWF's sense of humor in general

 

- Eddie Guerrero's mullet

 

- Tajiri's heel turn

 

- Raven not on commentary (no more Jacqueline please)

 

- canned heat

 

- official PPV songs

 

- disregarding the split

 

- interviews in front of the fake fence

 

- on the fly booking

 

- overdone title changes

 

- trying to spike ratings

 

- poor PPV buildup

 

- homoerotic stuff.....

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Guest Sakura

When does Vince or Steph publicly back Show, Albert, Henry, BROCK~!, Kane, Rikishi or Bradshaw?

 

I know JR likes Kane and Bradshaw, but that's it. Putting someone over on TV during a push is not publicly backing.

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Guest notJames
- seventy replays of events that happened 10 minutes before

amen.

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Guest JHawk
Booker T in the midcard

 

Careful.  Say that and they'll put him in the lower card on Heat just to piss you off.

 

I agree though.  Raw especially needs new main eventers, and right now it's Booker and RVD that they can put in there without smarks and marks alike revolting.

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Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly

.......everybody using chops

 

- everybody using the super kick

 

- everybody having long hair

 

- everybody wearing black

 

- punchfest matches

 

- lack of character development

 

- lack of reasons to watch the following show

 

- the main event scene

 

- Triple H's three years of water spitting

 

- JR's down south country boy analogies that nobody understands but himself and the person who helps him to come up with them

 

- Triple H's knee offense

 

- Get the "F" out commercial

 

- The Woo in the beginning of Flair's music

 

- Dancing fat people

 

- 3 minute matches that shoul be longer

 

- Long matches that should only go 3 minutes

 

- Wrestlers who need others to carry them

 

- Half ass pushes that lead to half ass fan reaction

 

- Half ass pushes despite good fan reaction

 

- Evil owners

 

- The Godfather

 

- Val Venis

 

- Trying to believe Hogan can cleanly beat anyone on the WWF roster

 

- Paying to see payoffs that never happen

 

- Lack of new, interesting matchups

 

- The Undisputed Title

 

- The Rock

 

- Faces that act like heels

 

- Heels that are heels for dumbass reasons (being a virgin, gay)

 

- The Evil Foreigner gimmick

 

- Video Clips that don't work at the WWF's website

 

- The idea that the WWF asks for our suggestions

 

- Plants on call in shows

 

- Hearing the answers to questions that have been answered millions of times before

 

- The same "historical" matches that the WWF pulls out to talk about

 

- Swerves

 

- Disappointing payoffs to cliffhangers

 

- Hyping free TV (Jan 7th RAW, WWF Velocity) instead of PPVS

 

- Hyping surprises (Royal Rumble mystery entries)

 

- Pins with feet on the ropes

 

- Heels who don't know how to be good heels

 

- People trying to be cool by kissing up to the audience

 

- A ring full of people getting Stunners

 

- Wrestlers who can't properly imitate another wrestlers finisher despite the fact that kids all over America can

 

- Wrestlers not bumping

 

- Wrestlers who can't sell

 

- Seeing restholds in three minute matches that are alreay moving slow

 

- Goldust punching people from his knees

 

- Weak looking punches

 

- Wrestlers with big egos

 

- Bookers with big egos

 

- McMahons with big egos

 

- McMahons who are wrestlers and bookers with big egos

 

- Having one wrestling federation to watch on TV

 

- The Undertaker being champion of a World Wrestling Entertainment despite being one of the least entetaining guys on the roster

 

- The fact that the World Wrestling Entertainment Championship sounds as prestigous as the Box Office Belt that Arnold was given in 1999.

 

- The absence of the PTC when Vinc McMahon is getting his ass kissed on television, simulating sex with people, having people being pissed on, puked on, getting asses rubbed in their faces and everything else that is going on.

 

Maybe criticizing the WWF isn't worth the trouble since nobody is watching any more. Why persuade people to not to watch when the WWF finds a new way to turn people off to the product each week?

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

When does Vince or Steph publicly back Show, Albert, Henry, BROCK~!, Kane, Rikishi or Bradshaw?

 

I would say by the amounts of pushes they get.  The amount of character changes.  The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th chances.  That's pretty public if you ask me.

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1) Pyro and entrance music

2) Wrestlers, who are supposed to be "tough guys" who would get stomped in a real fight because all they know is the gym and the hair salon.

3) "Story lines" that have nothing to do with anything that ever happened in the ring.  What's wrong with wrestling based feuds?  I don't care about how Steve Austin feels this week about Vince McMahon or about Jeff Hardy's (or Raven's) feeeelings (whine, sob, mope).  IMO nothing those guys ever has or will do could possibly touch Bobo Brazil Vs. The Shiek.  That, my friends, was a feud.  And, gasp!, it took place in the ring!!!  

4) #1 + #2 + #3 = "sports entertainment"

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Guest papacita
Face Announcer hypocrasy.  Normally I get this, the face announcer likes the faces, but when Taker punches arn anderson JR acts like he is eatin a baby "Mah Gawd! Taker is beatin up a cripple dammit".  Yet when Austin beats the shit out of Anderson and then takes a piss on him it's "Yeah! Atta'boy Awstin! Piss on em! Auhahahaha!"

Let's not forget the Smackdown where Rock fought Kevin Nash. This was when Rock was in his Hulkamaniac stage (despite the fact that HOGAN drove the semi a month earlier and tried to kill him). So the announcers had spent a whole week ignoring that semi incident, but as soon as the Rock steps in the ring with Nash, Cole says "And remember King, Nash tried to kill the Rock a few weeks back! Rock hasn't forgotten that, you know!"

 

Repeat after me...SIGN URKEL!

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