Ok, so NOW what do you think of Hulk Hogan?

[Guest Downhome]

Ok, I know many of you hate him, and for good reason. He's one of the worst in ring workers, his matches are usually the same one over and over, etc... Then we have the aspect of his self that you all have despised over the years, that being, his backstage political pull. While in my eyes he somewhat deserved some of what he was allowed, it also went too far more than onece. Hogan was known for almost NEVER laying down for anyone, and when he did, it certainly wasn't truly a clean defeat. But now, things have changed, and Hogan himself and his very use has changed.

 

We now have seen Hogan loose to Rocky, Taker, and HHH, two of which were perfectly clean defeats. It looks to me like Hogan has finally realized his purpose, that being more of a novelty act, a rattings buffer, and to the larger effect, a side show just so all of the life long, and the new young, Hogan fans can see him have his run one last time in the WWE. He has been given the title, out of respect I can only assume, and now he seems to be putting over talent consistantly, for one of the first times in his career. Now we have Hogan moving on to Kurt Angle, which could be very interesting. I don't look for Hogan to win that one, but I DO look for him to allow for Angle to come out looking as if he is the better man. So once again, back to the main topic...

 

...what do you NOW think of Hulk Hogan?

 

Sincerely,

...Downhome...

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Most reports have said that Hogan has been a very good sport about laying down for guys when asked, and I see no reason not to believe it. I'm more pissed off that management could be stupid enough to put the title on a nostalgia trip and allienate their entire audience. Again, Hogan doing his decade-old act and acting as if it means something is nothing new. The WWE being stupid enough to fall for it is just ridiculous.

 

So, my opinion of him hasn't changed. He's the same lethargic senor citizen from two and a half decades ago who manages to make it onto my TV in some way. My opinion of WWE management and the company as a whole, however, has gone down considerably, though.

[Guest]

It honestly doesn't matter how many people Hogan puts over, no one on this board will ever praise him for ANYTHING. It wouldnt matter if he ends up making Jericho, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Austin, Flair, and Spike Dudley look like superhuman Gods in the ring, no one here will ever give him any credit because there is this deep sinister hatred for the man (and HHH and even Edge *cough cough* Anglesault *cough cough) in smarkville... a hatred I will never fully understand, but I do get a good kick out of reading some of it

 

and I know that some of the WWE stars that come here occassionally get a kick out of the expert "insider" opinions on this board as well

[Guest]

Sure, he's putting people over. But it still doesn't make for entertaining television, as far as I'm conerned. I really don't have anything against him personally, but it's just not my idea of a good time to watch him wrestle.

 

Don't get me wrong, I used to be into him back in the day too. But now just isn't his time. But at the very least, at least he isn't beating anyone.

[Guest papacita]

Well...he is my all time LEAST favorite wrestler. That should give you a clue. I'm all for him putting "new generation" guys over, but seriously, I don't think I'll ever like him. Respect him...

 

Maybe that's a different story.

[Guest TheMikeSC]

It honestly doesn't matter how many people Hogan puts over, no one on this board will ever praise him for ANYTHING.>>>

 

 

Just a point---he did not put over Rock. He JOBBED to Rock, yes---but who ended up getting the rub there?

 

Hint: Not the young, pretty decent worker.

 

 

<<<It wouldnt matter if he ends up making Jericho, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Austin, Flair, and Spike Dudley look like superhuman Gods in the ring>>>

 

 

Well, he's not really a threat to do just that, either.

 

 

<<<, no one here will ever give him any credit because there is this deep sinister hatred for the man (and HHH and even Edge *cough cough* Anglesault *cough cough) in smarkville... a hatred I will never fully understand, but I do get a good kick out of reading some of it>>>

 

 

It's not hatred. We just feel he's horrible in the ring (with good reason), that he's crap on the mic, and him being anywhere NEAR the ME level of WWE is an insult to the guys who can work a match.

                -=Mike

 

and I know that some of the WWE stars that come here occassionally get a kick out of the expert "insider" opinions on this board as well

[Guest Slapnuts00]

Hogan is finally in a situation where he has realized that no loss can tarnish his image, since the fans are eating him up anyway. I still can't stand him, I think he's old and boring and drags down his matches since he can't work or take bumps well. I'm glad Hogan is being cooperative and doing what he's told but really no win or loss matters for him anymore.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Hey he's already put more people over since his return than HHH has since his first title reign...

[Guest]

I love Hogan, always have, always will.

Back in the eighties, it was Hogan's gimmick to be the invincible everyman. He built up a freakishly big following i.e. Hulkamania, so they couldn't really break his character because he was so popular.

In the nineties... well... that was WCW... lets not go there.

And now in the... well whatever you call this decade, times have changed. We dont have any "invincible" wrestlers anymore. But then you've brought back Hogan, the last of the "invincible" wrestlers, what are you to do? Obviously he is not a believable unstoppable character (unless he Hulks up and Hulkamania runs wild on you!!) as he has aged quite a bit. What else is there to do for him but pass the torch. Just as Andre did to Hogan at Wrestlemania III.

I personally dont feel he should be passing the torch to everyone he faces, as that could easily start a raging inferno (are you digging the analogies?), but he should pick one wrestler to give full fan following rights to.

It has got to be The Rock. Love him or hate him, he has the potential to start another Hulkamania. But the original Hulkamania will never die... never...

[Guest]

It has got to be The Rock. Love him or hate him, he has the potential to start another Hulkamania. But the original Hulkamania will never die... never...

Not going to happen. We'll be lucky if we see Rock wrestle just one more time this year (at SummerSlam) and even that isn't a lock yet

[Guest]

I'll echo the sentiments already expressed here and say that Hogan doesn't deserve praise for putting other wrestlers over cleanly because THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING. He's a useless old man who's only worth is getting cheap nostalgia pops (except in Cananda, where they really love him, those freaks). Laying down cleanly for other wrestlers now means nothing because he's an ancient cripple. If he was willing to do that more often 10-15 years ago, then it would be a different story. But you can't change the past, and that's something that Hogan's defenders of today don't seem to realize.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Hey he's already put more people over since his return than HHH has since his first title reign...

::laughs::

 

Yet another great point.

 

Obsession with HHH, yes, but a great point nonetheless

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

[supaTaft,June 10 2002,00:56]

It has got to be The Rock. Love him or hate him, he has the potential to start another Hulkamania. But the original Hulkamania will never die... never...

What?

 

What?!? Are you SERIOUS?

 

ROCK??

 

::falls down on the floor laughing::

 

oh god we got a mark over here!!

[Guest RedJed]

I will give him this much.....he isn't throwing fits like he did in WCW (even in his last matches with them) and he did a completely clean job to HHH and moreless got his ass handed to him in that match on SD.

 

I think they are going to have him job out to Angle at the next ppv and then probably will beat Vince in their feud, that will span at least a few months. After that I would expect Hogan to be positioned as a novelty special attraction of sorts (much like Flair is) in that he will occasionally wrestle only and certainly not be on TV every week.

[Guest]

If I was getting paid what Hogan is..I'd lay down for everyone too.

 

This has been the Taker Mark

[Guest alfdogg]

If I was getting paid what Hogan is..I'd lay down for everyone too.

 

This has been the Taker Mark™

You ain't fuckin' lyin', man.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Undertaker - "Like I said Yoko, I recommend the size 9000 leather shoe for your foot, it will really match your figure"

 

Yokozuna - "Can ya eat it?"

I suspect if you were laughing at Owen Hart you'd get heel heat here

 

Not fun to laugh at a dead man. Even if he did live by the egg roll, and die by the egg roll...

[Guest]

Just out of curiosity, RicFlairGlory, if not Rock, who could you honestly see bringing about the next Hulkamania? One of the "internet darlings"? I don't think Lance Storm is going to be the next Hulk Hogan. I can't see Benoit doing it, or Jericho, or any of the other Canadians everyone creams over. If you ask me, The Rock is huge already, and he's well on his way to starting "Rockamania". What were the main points of Hulkamania? Hugely over wrestler, mainstream recognition, and shitty movies. The only difference between Rock and Hogan is that Hogan has been in a lot more shitty movies.

[Guest]

Sorry about the double post

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Hello.

 

Everybody on this site cannot stand hogan.  Why would we want a newer version of shit?

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

And besides, Rock and Austin have just as much if not more recognition now than hogan had in the 80's, minus the TV commercials.

[Guest]

Undertaker - "Like I said Yoko, I recommend the size 9000 leather shoe for your foot, it will really match your figure"

 

Yokozuna - "Can ya eat it?"

I suspect if you were laughing at Owen Hart you'd get heel heat here

 

Not fun to laugh at a dead man. Even if he did live by the egg roll, and die by the egg roll...

It's a joke, i mean no disrespect to Yokozuna, im pretty sure *HE* knew he was a big guy, so whats wrong with me pointing it out for a laugh. Im sure Yoko would rather us be happy and laughing than sad and mourning his loss.

 

This has been the Taker Mark

[Guest]

What they should have done was stretch out the Hogan thing to the Next WM  give him the title at WM19 which have been ten years since he won the belt in the WWF.

 

And between that time he could have worked as a heel in nWo or even as a face and work on the Midcard Main eventers while he waited.

 

But....

 

All that changed when Hogan got the Pop Heard round the world from the fans at WM18  From then the WWE thinktank decided they needed to give the Title by the next month, even though the cursed Undisputed title seems to drop to people once per month. and he lost the title.  Hogan now going into a Tirade on how he wants to retire, perhaps its a work way to retire because he probably hit his Stride in the Short run novelity of Hulkamania, and so he and Vince or him and Kurt will have a match and if Hulk Wins he gets to retire LOL and if he loses he serves out his two year contract..

 

Point is fellow Smark o Maniacs is that as Long as the Merchandise buying Cattle in the stands  Cheers for Hogan at arena events, we won't be rid of him.

 

And We haven't even heard the peak

 

Once they give Hogan back the Real American Theme probably at his last event, it will sound like Austin pops after WM14

[Guest]

And besides, Rock and Austin have just as much if not more recognition now than hogan had in the 80's, minus the TV commercials.

Not really true

 

Rock- Yes

 

Austin- sorry, but no. I've done research into this before, and I can tell you that Hogan was a much bigger name for a longer period of time. Today, Austin's popularity and notoriety isn't anywhere what it was in 98, but even then it wasn't anywhere near the level Hogan reached in the 80's

 

Just the facts

[Guest]

He's done jobs to Rocky, Taker & HHH. Three established stars who barely even needed that win. Hell, Taker has even pinned Hogan before.. over 9 years ago. I don't see anything great and humbling about Hogan for doing this. Maybe when he starts laying down for RVD, or Eddy Guerrero, or Chris Jericho, or D'Lo Brown in order to give them that bragging right.. then maybe.

 

But now?

 

No.

 

Screw Hogan.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Big deal he's jobbed to HHH and The Rock. When he lays down for Jericho or Benoit than he deserves some credit.

[Guest]

Besides, how many legit wins has Hogan had in his current WWF run?

[Guest cynicalprofit]

Hogan is just like the Honky Tonk Man, he owes jobs to everyone, but since most of those guys are retired or dead, he's doing it to the new batch of wreslters.

[Guest Brian]

And he ended up getting put over by Rock in the end.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Not really true

 

Rock- Yes

 

Austin- sorry, but no. I've done research into this before, and I can tell you that Hogan was a much bigger name for a longer period of time. Today, Austin's popularity and notoriety isn't anywhere what it was in 98, but even then it wasn't anywhere near the level Hogan reached in the 80's

 

Just the facts

The only reason mainstream people who mention Wrestling dont say "Oh, you mean STONE COLD" and laugh, is because now they're saying Rock.

 

Austin was HUGE through 1999, then Rock started, and he got the SNL appearances, he got the Movies. Only reason people dont say Stone Cold is because they're saying Rock