What do you think the food chain order is?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

It is my opinion that the current state of the WWE has 2 things that share equal blame.

 

1.  the creative aspect...which has been SHITTY.

 

2.  the food chain.

 

What is the food chain?  It's what I call the order of operations in the WWE.

 

For example:

 

Why can't Brock be an unbeatable monster?  

 

A:  Because the guys on top aren't going to put over a rookie..pay your dues.  Thats why he loses handicap matches to Hardys and sells his ass off for Bubba Ray Dudley...honestly...how fast is he gonna get up there?

 

Why did the Invasion angle fail?

 

A:  Taker wasnt gonna put over any new people...and no one else was jazzed about it either.

 

Why did the NWO fail so quickly?

 

A:  Did they ever win a match?

 

 

So...what do you think the order of the food chain is?

 

The way I see it...HHH, Austin and Taker are the top 3 guys.

 

What do you think comes next...or what else is at the top?

[Guest Brian]

Once Taker refused, everyone was screwed.

[Guest TheDames7]

Why did the NWO fail so quickly?

 

A:  Did they ever win a match?

They did, the won a tag vs Rock & Stone Cold the week before 'Mania.

 

Dames

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Everyone no sold the point of the thread.

[Guest J*ingus]

Right now, I think it works out something like this:

 

1. HHH

2. Austin

3. Undertaker

4. Hogan

 

Rock would probably be in there too, if he was on the active roster at the moment.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Everyone no sold the point of the thread.

lol...

[Guest razazteca]

the nWo fail early because:

 

a) The 1996 WCW nWo did not show up, what did show up was 3 drinking buddys glad that they had jobs

 

b) bad writing, bad writing, bad writing, bad writing, bad scripts

 

c) Canadian fans did not buy Hogan as a heel

 

d) half assed storyline of being poison

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

ALRIGHT.

 

SINCE ALMOST NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THE FUCKING THREAD I'LL MAKE IT EASIER!

 

What do YOU think the pecking order is?

[Guest Flyboy]

ALRIGHT.

 

SINCE ALMOST NO ONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THE FUCKING THREAD I'LL MAKE IT EASIER!

Oh shit... bps getting intense~! on us!

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

*Poses.  Spits Water*

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

*Poses.  Spits Water*

lol, you really need to take Jerry Lawlers spot at the announce booth

 

I can see it now, JR goes into some promo, bps says something like "what do i have to spit water and pose to get on the camera?"

 

back to me

man i should stop drinking now....

[Guest Human Fly]

HHH

Undertaker

Hogan

Austin

Rock

 

I think Hogan and Austin are close to being tied. But with Austin's recent unhapiness I think that drops him a little bit. He hasn't been at the top of the card since 'Feb.

 

Rock is below Austin just because he isn't around. When he comes back he moves up to the 2nd spot. The bigger his star gets in Hollywood the more stroke he'll have in the WWE (assuming he stays). If Arnold or Stallone would've come in and wrestled for a few months during there primes they would've been pushed hard. I think the Rock will be even pushed beyond that. He has WWE roots so the fans already buy him as a legit WWE champ, he'll be at the top of the card every ppv he's in.

 

Edit - If Rock sticks around and becomes a big star in movies (see above) I see him as the only person who can unseat HHH as the #1 man in the pecking order. For those few months he wrestles around movies at least

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

It's gotta be something to the effect of

 

Austin

Taker/HHH

Hogan

Rock

 

Austin gets whatever he wants, though what he wants isnt selfish. Lets not forget he got a lot of control over his angle.  

 

Taker and HHH manage to win no matter what, or at the very least, get to cling to lame gold.

 

Hogan gets SOME pull, nowhere near what he's been used to, but plays ball more often than not, and realizes he's on his retirement tour

 

Rock gets a decent amount of pull, but frankly just enough to let him stay in Hollywood, making money for Vince and himself.

[Guest Shaved Bear]

HHH

Taker

Austin

Hogan

Rock

[Guest]

Jericho

Angle

D'Lo Brown

Raven

Lance Storm

 

muahahah

[Guest RedJed]

I think the only real top problems in the company are Austin and on top, HHH.

 

Austin will put over guys if theres a reason to it that is valid and makes sense for the most part. For example, I think if the bookers would have made the move, Austin would have had no problem jobbing out the title to RVD last year when he was hot as all hell. Might just be an opinion, but I believe in it.

 

As for HHH, it seems like he always demands some sort of payback for any sort of rub he gives. Case in point with Test on SD.......Test beat him a few weeks ago, and in that battle royal HHH was the one who eliminated him then.

 

I'll say this much.......if Rock in a roundabout way is bitching about a guy (HHH) then there is a problem since Rocky hardly ever says anything negative publicly about anyone.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

1. Raven

2. HHH

3. Austin

4. Taker

5. Rock

 

Raven's at the top because he's secretly manipulating everything that goes on, but subtly which is why his monster push w/ the flock hasn't started yet. He's deciding the exact right moment to start it. What a genius.

[Guest converge241]

1. Vince

2. Steph/HHH

3. Austin

4.Taker/Heyman/Guerwitz etc.

5. Hogan/ Rock (both would be higher if they chose to be)

6. Vince russo (kind of half kidding on this one, but dont you think he is a factor? it seems like while writing/planning they are all asking themselves...what would Russo do?)

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

I think you should have called this the "pecking order"

 

I know it has the Hogan/Savage nWo feel to it, but I'd have marked for it

[Guest Brian]

I don't think Rock is even near the close when he's there. It seems like everyone else has a step or two up on him, plus those guys can pull the politics on him like Jericho (who rock put over than HHH basically buried) or Hogan (it took Austin refusing to work with Hogan to get the Mania match).

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

1.  Vince McMahon

2.  Triple H, Stephanie McMahon

3.  Steve Austin

4.  Undertaker, Jim Ross

5.  Hogan, Nash, Michaels, X-Pac

6.  Shane McMahon, Test

 

LAST - Christian, Lance Storm

[Guest alfdogg]

As for HHH, it seems like he always demands some sort of payback for any sort of rub he gives. Case in point with Test on SD.......Test beat him a few weeks ago, and in that battle royal HHH was the one who eliminated him then.

Don't forget he eliminated D-Von and Godfather too.

 

Anyway, My order is pretty much the same as Kahran's.

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

Here is the pecking order, in terms of levels

AUSTIN/HHH/NASH since they all get what they want all of the time and there is no way to determine who is higher up.

 

TAKER-HOGAN are right below them.

 

Everyone else is below those 5, unless a friend of those 5.

 

HHH is playing with fire though because if he breaks up with Steph, he is in trouble since they have been together for a while now. However, if they get married, he is family legally, though Vince and company already treat him like family supposedly.

 

ROCK, if he wanted to be, would be above all of them because he is THE STAR. ROCK doesn't give a shit though because he is bigger than all of those guys and like Meltzer said in the Observer, he is the only top guy who is confident in his ability to hold his top spot without holding other guys down. AUSTIN, HHH, and Taker are paranoid as heel when a BROCK Lesnar debuts, which is why HHH and others got his finish nixed. When RVD started to get over, Austin and Undertaker bitched about him, and he was soon depushed. Austin and Taker are just as guilty as HHH. ANd notice, when STeve Austin did the JOB for Kurt Angle, it didn't put him over because Austin grabbed the rope before tapping out. Austin got the NWO angle squashed because he knew it was a threat to him. Now, it is dead as heels and they are turning face and will play second fiddle to , guess who, STeve AUstin.

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

Here is the pecking order, in terms of levels

AUSTIN/HHH/NASH since they all get what they want all of the time and there is no way to determine who is higher up.

 

TAKER-HOGAN are right below them.

 

Everyone else is below those 5, unless a friend of those 5.

 

HHH is playing with fire though because if he breaks up with Steph, he is in trouble since they have been together for a while now. However, if they get married, he is family legally, though Vince and company already treat him like family supposedly.

 

ROCK, if he wanted to be, would be above all of them because he is THE STAR. ROCK doesn't give a shit though because he is bigger than all of those guys and like Meltzer said in the Observer, he is the only top guy who is confident in his ability to hold his top spot without holding other guys down. AUSTIN, HHH, and Taker are paranoid as hell when a BROCK Lesnar debuts, which is why HHH and others got his finish nixed. When RVD started to get over, Austin and Undertaker bitched about him, and he was soon depushed. Austin and Taker are just as guilty as HHH. ANd notice, when STeve Austin did the JOB for Kurt Angle, it didn't put him over because Austin grabbed the rope before tapping out. Austin got the NWO angle squashed because he knew it was a threat to him. Now, it is dead as heels and they are turning face and will play second fiddle to , guess who, STeve AUstin.

[Guest TheyCallMeMark]

I think, at the very top, after Vince and company, Austin is the highest of them all. Obviously he gets exactly what he wants and his decisions effect the whole company and what's going on. Sort of like he's a tectonic plate and when he adjusts everthying else around with him. I would point to the fact he saved Vince's ass as to the reason he gets almost exactly what he wants, when he wants it.

 

HHH is second. Austin has more control, but Austin's control doesn't negativly effect anybody. HHH activley fucks people over. He takes complete control over his fueds, and makes sure no one else but him seems like too much of a threat. I think his power has been slipping alot lately, though, because his in-ring product and drawing power have been dealt serious blows. Still, I think he can and will throw his weight around.

 

Third I would probably have to be Taker. He gets his way alot and negativly effects alot of things (InVasion and DDP come to mind immidiatley).

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I remember that everyone (IE...HHH and Taker and Austin) bitching about how Angles title reign (the first one) had been going on for too long.

 

If thats not a case of politics in the way of business...I don't know what is.

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

That is what I am saying. It is not just HHH holding guys down, it is HHH,AUSTIN, and Taker. as a unit holding guys down. They are a team backstage, though none would admit it. Steve Austin doesn't watch Smackdown but says the writing sucks. How would he know if he only watches half of the programming? That is right, he is just pissed about how the writers have moved him down the card. Steve, bro, sometime, you are going to have to move down, or move out(or be moved out like Bret Hart was). He is pissed because he isn't being portrayed as a sole top guy anymore and has to share it with other guys. Poor him. Anyway, so the real Kliq is really Austin,HHH,UT,HOGAN,NASH. FOr a new top guy to slip through the cracks, like Goldberg did, they have to get by those guys.

[Guest treble charged]

I think Austin is higher than HHH, simply because Austin has proven to be a more valuable draw than HHH has.  I don't care if Hunter is banging Stephanie, since that's his only meal ticket.  If they break-up, he's basically screwed (especially if its a nasty break-up), what with all of Steph's power backstage.

 

Anyway, getting back on track.

-Austin

-Hogan

-HHH

-Undertaker

 

I put Hogan up there, since he seems to play a prominant role on SD more ofthen than HHH does.

[Guest alfdogg]

First of all, the RVD depush DID start on 1-7, whether you want to believe it or not.  And this is my opinion, but to have a depush that comes out of nowhere on the day HHH comes back and blame it on Austin or Taker is fucking stupid.

 

And now that I think about it, I think TCMM has a good point about Austin and HHH.  HHH's control is mostly Stephanie, while Austin's is mostly his own, IMO.  So I think Austin probably does have more stroke than HHH, but it doesn't reflect as badly on the company, save the nWo angle.

 

That's my two cents.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

HHH has twice as much power.

 

His own "clout" and that of the head writer.  I'm going to go out on a limb and say they usually are on the same side on issues.