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I try not to venture into the areas that you just mentioned. The Central Valley, including its steaming rotten cesspool of a capital, Bakersfield, is a piece of California I wish sometimes, didn't exist if it wasn't for its agricultural resources.

 

You'll understand when you move to Southern California. The division is right on the border of Ventura County, I'm telling you. I lived next to the border in one of the state's most (surprisingly) conservative towns (Santa Clarita) about half my life.

 

And I mean this all relatively speaking, of course. Conservative for California really tends to be about moderate on the grand political scale.

 

I can't say that I don't agree with you at least on the coast and well most of the central valley is crap from what I've seen on my trips down 5.

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