The One and Only "Casino Royale" Thread

[SuperJerk 0]

A family seemed to think that was the ending and all left.

 

Imagine how confused they'll be when the next one comes out and he's still an agent.

[cabbageboy 0]

I wouldn't mind Blofeld for the next two movies of Craig's contract. For some reason I don't see Craig hanging around past that 3rd movie though, either due to him having other roles in the works or people getting tired of his version of Bond. The whole Blofeld/SPECTRE storyline never really had a final blowoff, just the unsatisfying finish of Diamonds Are Forever and the joke bit at the beginning of FYEO where "Blofeld" dies.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Yeah, DAF also sucked not only because of the lame explosion climax but

Tracy is never mentioned especially when Bond confronts Blofeld again. Talk about lame especially since the intro would make sense because Bond is really angry at Blofeld!

. But then I also noticed the film starts off with the bad ass opening in Japan where YOLT left off so it could explained that EON tried to forget OHMSS took place because of they felt bitter that Lazenby left them high and dry and that DAF actually follows YOLT. Thankfully, FYEO fixed this in the intro by remembering OHMSS with Tracy. I also preferred Blofeld's demise in the film because in the novel of YOLT (the movies are filmed out of order compared to the books and some of them don't even use the same storyline), Bond

strangles Blofeld to death.

Very anti-climatic IMO.

[cabbageboy 0]

I never have minded the opening of DAF, since anyone who saw the previous movie would obviously know why Bond was pissed at Blofeld. Bond was definitely more angry than usual in that opening. DAF is a curious Bond movie in a lot of ways. It's entertaining in its own right but if you try and put it in perspective with OHMSS it really falls flat. It's like they knew OHMSS upset a lot of people with the downbeat ending (and Lazenby of course), so they went in the opposite direction of ultra silly escapism rather than follow up on anything.

 

Is it just me or did Connery actually look younger and better in Never Say Never Again than in DAF? Odd since he was 53 for NSNA and was 41 when DAF was released.

[Zorin Industries 0]

I was thinking the same the last time I watched NSNA, Connery looked really good for 53, compared to Moore in View To A Kill when Moore hit 53.

[cabbageboy 0]

Actually Moore was about 57-58 in View to a Kill since he was born in 1927. Moore at age 53 would be more like him in either Moonraker or For Your Eyes Only, and he didn't look all that bad in those. By the time AVTAK rolled around, yeah, he was getting past it.

[Zorin Industries 0]

Yeah, your right. I find it hard to believe that both the producers and Moore thought it was a good idea to let him play Bond that long. I can understand why they wanted him to stay on for Octopussy, but theres no excuse for having a man whos near pensionable age to be playing Bond. This is from a guy who likes both Moore and AVTAK

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Okay so I just got done reading the book and to quote another reader:

 

The film adds about an hour of plot to the card game story, and the locations are completely changed. Okay, I get that. There is nothing wrong with modernizing it and updating it to fit the 21st century, Bond films have done it since the beginning.

 

In the novel, a black haired, handsome, chain smoking Bond plays a game of Baccarat against a fat, repulsive, middle-aged, red headed, Russian Communist called Le Chiffre, in a small French town called Royale-Les Eaux.

 

In the film, the card game is completely different, the location is changed to Montenegro, SMERSH is turned into a SPECTRE-like organization backing the LRA, The characters of Mathis, Leiter, and M are completely raped from Fleming's story, in that the faithful ally Mathis is turned into a traitor, and doesn't meet Bond until this mission (they had worked together previously in the book,) the blonde, Frank Sinatra-like Texas Leiter is turned into a scruffy looking black guy and M is still a woman (the racist, sexist Fleming would have died of a heart attack!)

 

And of course Bond is turned into a psychotic-eyed, blonde-headed Aryan/Terminator, action hero, with a physique to rival Arnold's, who doesn't get any humantiy until the end, where the Bond of the books is a dark looking, cynical Film-Noir/pulp type, who has an average build, and DIDN'T smash through walls like the Incredible Hulk, or crawl buildings like Spider-Man to catch "terrorists."

 

In the novel, Bond's first kill was sniping a Japanese Cipher clerk in NY, not beating the shit out of a Pakastani in a restroom.

 

Vesper's suicide is completely different from the book (although Eva Green looked and played her exactly as I imagined,) turning a sad, quiet ending into an action packed Blockbuster climax for the film, and the infamous carpet beater scene is turned into a comical rope-swinging scene worthy of Roger Moore.

 

The book begins with Bond being in Royale-Les Eaux (Montenegro in this case) already and ends with

"The bitch is dead."

 

Le Chiffre doesn't have the cool scar nor does he cry blood, but I like that change.

 

In the movie, Bond's game with Le Chiffre is interrupted when the martini he drinks is poisoned. In the book, one of Le Chiffre's hitmen gets behind Bond's chair and tells him to pull out of the game before he wins all the money or he will be shot. Bond then flips the chair over backwards onto the man and gets up as if he just fainted with the bottom of the chair missing. They bring him another chair as the hitman gets away.

 

In the movie, Bond crashes his Ford Ashton Martin trying to avoid running over a tied up Vesper. In the book, his convertible Bentley crashes when it hits steel spikes set up on the road by Le Chiffre.

 

In the book, Vesper kills herself by ODing on sleeping pills. Bond finds out she was a traitor when he reads the letter she left behind informing him of everything.

 

Also, Bond doesn't catch Le Chiffre's killer.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

So I got the DVD and it sucks. The 2nd disc only has 3 featurettes and the music video of "You Know My Name". Guess I'll wait until next year when the Ultimate Edition of Casino Royale is released.