Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Oh we are so funny on this board hahahaha. Fuck this trendy Pac bashing when Pac showed up in 98 right after Wrestlemania, the crowd, myself, and I bet most of u went apeshit, Pac was dX 2, and is nWo. And yeah I agree it was stupid for him to refuse to work two matches, but u cant tell me Pac doesnt deserve a spot on tv, remember who took every single nWo bump and beating since they came back on to tv, Pac always lets guys toss him around, and always has, he always works hard, and has given us a lot of good matches in the past decade, he has earned his place. people did like X-Pac, for like 2 minutes then he uttered the following phrase "I was sitting at home, with my mind on my money, and my money on my mind" I repeat "... with my mind on my money, and my money on my mind" the world officially hated X-Pac after this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted June 12, 2002 people did like X-Pac, for like 2 minutes then he uttered the following phrase "I was sitting at home, with my mind on my money, and my money on my mind" I repeat "... with my mind on my money, and my money on my mind" the world officially hated X-Pac after this x-pac was over huge pretty much from the time he entered the wwf until he turned heel on kane when they were a tag team. in fact x-pac was one of the most over wrestlers back when he and kane held the tag titles. remember the energy drink he would come to the ring with? good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 12, 2002 If he only wanted to work one show...they should have made him work Heat and not Raw. My god...that 3 minute 6 man tag was TOO MUCH WORK for him to also work a Heat match. Nash must be rubbing off...cause thats hella lazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2002 If he only wanted to work one show...they should have made him work Heat and not Raw. My god...that 3 minute 6 man tag was TOO MUCH WORK for him to also work a Heat match. Nash must be rubbing off...cause thats hella lazy. Smackdown Spoiler: Angle wrestled on both "Smackdown brand" shows, unlike some people. coughX-Pisscough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2002 MikeSC how can I take any response by you seriously, when u say "Possibly" Pac had some good matches in THE PAST DECADE, but no your not just a little bias. I knew you had no taste politically, but the jury was still out on your wrestling opinions. Guess not now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AM The Kid Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Last night when Micheals told X-Pac he was the "greatest wrestler in the world today", I bet EVERYONE backstage was groaning while Benoit snickered in the corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Edge said it best when talking about that ratty little sucka- And as far as being part of the most popular group in WWF history, well hanging out with cool people does not make you a really cool person. Oh, and by the way, 1998 called and they're sick and tired of you, so feel free to join us in the year 2001 any time! Now you look confused, so let me explain. You see, at one point I was into this whole goth thing, but then I developed my very own persona - it's called character development. You should look into it sometime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2002 I'm sure X-Pac is just cleverly pacing himself for all the big main events that are ahead of him. Don't want to wind up like Mick Foley and be all beaten up by the time you really hit it big. Right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted June 12, 2002 I don't like X-Pac and think he's worth very little now, but people making it sound like he's never done anything worth a damn and that's just being either ignorant or biased against him. Sean Waltman/Lightning Kid/1-2-3 Kid/Syxx/X-Pac is one of the top performers of the last decade plus, enjoying success in both the USA and Japan, and producing many top-level matches. Just because he's now lazy, injured, and looks like a sewer rat, his past accomplishments should not be forgotten or mocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted June 12, 2002 MikeSC how can I take any response by you seriously, when u say "Possibly" Pac had some good matches in THE PAST DECADE, but no your not just a little bias. I knew you had no taste politically, but the jury was still out on your wrestling opinions. Guess not now though. Okay, so you have "Syxx" as your username, and you're calling HIM biased? That's hilarious...no it's not. First of all, X-Pac certainly did have good matches between 93-95. But that was then, this is now. And now, he SUCKS. The crowd speaks the truth. And I NEVER marked for X-Pac. I didn't even like him that much when he was the 1-2-3 Kid. He is worthless now, and only has a job because of HHH. Get rid of him. He doesn't deserve a spot on TV anymore. And yes, I CAN tell you that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted June 12, 2002 The fact that, when being defended, his past accomplishments are constantly brought up instead of his recent work basically says it all when it comes to X-Pac. Ok, he was over in 1998. Alright, he had some good matches in the mid-90's. That was then. This is now. He isn't over. He has not been over for years. He isn't that good. He hasn't been that good in years. He does not deserve his spot, he should be on Heat. As was suggested, if he refuses to work both shows he should have been told that was fine and he can work Heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Okay, so you have "Syxx" as your username, and you're calling HIM biased? That's hilarious...no it's not. Dammit Alfdogg! I was just about to make the exact smart ass remark. It is quite humorous to see that the only person to defend X-Pac is someone with the name Syxx... Waltman had great matches with Sabu and Lynn in Minnesota in the early 90s, and did some good stuff overseas in that timeframe as well. Now he still garners heat... The same kind of heat the Big Bossman does. He is worthless now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nater Report post Posted June 12, 2002 All seem so quick to blame the performers. Yeah sure they kick and scream from time to time, but what do you expect from people who get paid to tour America with brief international stops. With all the recent problems that wrestlers have been having with management, maybe its not all the performers fault for having a problem with the direction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2002 I wouldn't go so far as to call Pac worthless. Now don't mistake me for a Waltman mark because I'm not, but I think the guy is a decent worker. Is he the kind of worker that reserves the right to demand things from managment? No fucking way. Waltman is a moron for doing so and if these reports are true, it seems the guy thinks he's a bigger star than he really is (duh) but I wouldn't go so far as to criticize his working ability. Sure, he hasn't pulled out a good **** in a loooong time, but he still bumps well and has turned out some pretty good matches. His match with Tajiri at Summerslam (correct me if I'm wrong on this) was pretty good although no match of the year contender. Basically, if I were to describe wrestlers who are worthless I would list Albert, Bradshaw, and Big Show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted June 12, 2002 All seem so quick to blame the performers. Yeah sure they kick and scream from time to time, but what do you expect from people who get paid to tour America with brief international stops. With all the recent problems that wrestlers have been having with management, maybe its not all the performers fault for having a problem with the direction? X-Pac didn't have a problem with the direction. X-Pac had a problem with working Heat and Raw. This is something expected of a WWE employee. Working two shows is not a big deal or a rare thing. It's not like he was asked to work a HIAC on Raw and a Ladder match on Heat. He had a short 6 man and was likely going to have a short singles match on Heat. This shouldn't be a problem. X-Pac is totally to blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Someone said on here that RVD feuding with X Pac would be considered a waste of RVD. I couldn't say it better myself. The day RVD jobs to X Pac is the day I quit watching wrestling. They actually could wrestle in the KOTR depending on the bracket. How exactly is that set up anyway? This thing is as confusing as the WCW tag tourney in 1999. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Yeah I might be a Pac mark, but I will be damned if I am bias, because I am willing to sit here and say he is not the wrestler he used to be, and he was WRONG for not working two matches, but u people try to skate around the fact that he is still an average worker and deserves a spot, yeah maybe on heat like Sakura said, but u people compare him with The Big Bossman? Give me a break. Fact is maybe it is time to give him a new gimmick, so why dont they, u cant say its Pac's fault his storyline lines usually suck, like Goldfinger says "Open your eyes". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest humongous2002 Report post Posted June 12, 2002 DIE X-PAC DIE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted June 12, 2002 Everyones storyline sucks at the moment. hurricane, booker T and RVD have had horrendous storylines and have made the best of them X-Pac can't or won't. i liked him when he was the 123 kid because he was doing moves that I hadn't seen at that point. When I started getting japanese and lucha tapes he didn't seem anything special anymore. I remained indifferent to him until they ended the pac steals tori from kane storyline with Pac going over Kane. not only did it make no sense from a storyline point of view (If a man gets his woman stolen in wrestling he should at least get to beat the guy who did it, not job to him) X-pacs offense didn't look like it could possibly hurt Kane. End of feud and both of them are no better off. His Jericho feud was pretty bad as well because he just didn't seem to be in Jericho's class. When he booked the light heavyweight division his ideas seemed to consist of him doing the job to tajiri or kidman on Raw and winning the belt back on Smackdown. Tajiri especially at this point should have been going over clean. He writes articles on the website that seem designed to piss off his co-workers, seems reluctant to job to anyone below M/E status where despite his deluded thinking he has never come close to and by all accounts is a backstage cancer who can't work as well as he used to. If he has a place in the WWE it's on Heat or velocity not raw and not PPV's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 13, 2002 but u people compare him with The Big Bossman? Give me a break. I didn't compare him to the big Bossman, I compared his heat to Bossmans. Both of them don't receive this kind of heat where people don't like their character. People actually don't like the wrestler themselves and dont want to see them. Generaly, people don't love to hate X-Pac or Bossman like they did with Vince or HHH when he was a heel, they hate them as wrestlers in general and don't want to see them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted June 13, 2002 I am of the opinion that X-Pac shouldn't have been asked to wrestle twice simply because it's unneccesary. X-Pac's not giving Heat any star power, and the NWO angles will suck if you don't have the members doing anything. Furthermore, the time that he would have used on Heat would have taken away time from someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites