Guest converge241 Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 First if you like the movie, im not condemning you. (obvioulsy it may just be a taste thing). secondly SPOILERS!!!!!! SPOILERS!!!!! THIS MOVIE IS ONE OF (IF NOT THE) WORST MOVIES IVE EVER SEEN.. I like ambiguous movies, where everything isnt spelled out for you, but this was not that. its all over the place..no inkling of whats going on, plot elements are just dropped (time travel). are they just plain harbingers for tragedy? why would geres wife see them? one person is not a tragedy! and dont people see it as a warning? she already had the rare tumor. and speaking of the wife? she didnt die? shes calling? shes ingrid cold? Nice help the prophecy expert was too. Based on a true story? please! plllllllllllllllease!!!! Gere showed up at "gordon's" door twice before he realy did? while he was still in washington? "whats in my hand?" "chhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaap stiick" me last night: "whats in my dvd player?" "crrrrrrrrrappppppppppppp awfffulll crrrrrrappppp"
Guest starvenger Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 Never watched the movie, and never intend to. My rule is to avoid movies starring the following: - Julia Roberts - Richard Gere - Freddie Prinze, Jr. - Any Baldwin save for Alec (he pulls out a good one every so often) - Robin Williams (although Insomnia will probably be the exception here) And out of a lingering bitterness, I also avoid movies directed by Joel "the Franchise Killer" Schumacher.
Guest J*ingus Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 The movie's "true story" was based on a series of strange creature sightings in the 60's. This thing, which was described as being about six feet tall, gray colored, with red eyes and wings, was seen by a number of different people over the same area in the period of a few months. The press dubbed him "Mothman". However, that's all there was to the story, the movie completely made up the rest of it.
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 I, personally, loved this movie. Only movie with Gere in it that I've been able to stand. It's a true mainstream mindfuck, but it ends up making sense. That's what most people don't get... SPOILERS~!~ Okay, Ingrid's a being from another world...the scientist that Gere went to see in NYC made a good analogy that pretty much explains how Ingrid knew these things were going to happen. Something along the lines of "from the cockroach's perspective, they can't see the foot coming down from above to crush them. See that window washer up there? He's probably not the smartest guy in the world. But he can see farther than we can from here in the parking lot." Just think about that, and all of Ingrid's reasoning makes sense. Only part I didn't actually get was how Gere's character was able to visit the house several times...
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 Robin Williams is a good actor. You should only avoid his comedies.
Guest Black Lushus Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 i hate Julia Roberts too but Ocean's Eleven ruled it...
Guest redbaron51 Posted June 13, 2002 Report Posted June 13, 2002 Robin Williams is a good actor. You should only avoid his comedies. C'mon this guy is comedic genius.
Guest Mole Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 i hate Julia Roberts too but Ocean's Eleven ruled it... What is so bad about Julia?
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Most people hate Julia because she is successful. As for Mothman Prophecies, I loved it. It's one of my favourite movies of 2002 so far. The movie looks amazing and the ending kicks ass.
Guest starvenger Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 >Robin Williams is a good actor. You should only avoid his comedies. To be perfectly honest, I'd say that it's the other way around - avoid his dramas. >Most people hate Julia because she is successful. I actually just hate her because I think she's a bad actress.
Guest Black Lushus Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 i think she's overrated personally and she's related to Eric, not her fault but i still dock her points for that...
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Bah. Mothman Propecies ruled, as it was kinda like one of those pointless X-Files episodes that had Mulder/Scully hunting down the evil monster. I don't like Gere either, but I think he played the part well. And the bridge scene is pretty cool.
Guest converge241 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Okay, Ingrid's a being from another world...the scientist that Gere went to see in NYC made a good analogy that pretty much explains how Ingrid knew these things were going to happen. Something along the lines of "from the cockroach's perspective, they can't see the foot coming down from above to crush them. See that window washer up there? He's probably not the smartest guy in the world. But he can see farther than we can from here in the parking lot." yeah i get what they were, but why were they doing it? I just dont think the makers intended it to be ambiguous..they really had no clue. If they focused on one or two elements then fine but as it is heres the dangling threads: what the moth is why they do what they do what is the deal with time travel what is the deal with richard gere's face being deifferent in the mirror why can they use only phone lines, letterhead and envelopes, and plumbing. whats the deal with his wife why is richard gere "sent to them" the false insistence on a tue story like i said in my original post..theyre harbingers for diaster......i get that. any ideas on the rest of those problems?
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 THIS MOVIE IS ONE OF (IF NOT THE) WORST MOVIES IVE EVER SEEN.. Have you ever seen "Manos: Hands of Fate" or "The Hunt"? These are the worst movies ever made. "Manos: Hands of Fate" was officially voted the worst movie of all time.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Robin Williams is a great comedic actor, just the comedies he is in, especially the more recent ones are horrible. He needs to get better at picking out scripts.
Guest converge241 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Have you ever seen "Manos: Hands of Fate" or "The Hunt"? These are the worst movies ever made. "Manos: Hands of Fate" was officially voted the worst movie of all time. no, but i will have to now! my other "worst" movies: Nothing But trouble mannequin 2 , caddyshack 2, weekend at bernie's 2 maybe Scorpion King Stir of Echoes
Guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Posted June 15, 2002 my other "worst" movies: Stir of Echoes Stir of Echoes? You can't be serious. You think that's one of the worst films you have ever seen? PLEASE explain how you can say that is a horrible movie. It's one of the best modern ghost films made in the last decade.
Guest converge241 Posted June 17, 2002 Report Posted June 17, 2002 The acting is just abhorable in stir of echoes. IMO
Guest Flyboy Posted May 10, 2003 Report Posted May 10, 2003 (edited) OMG~! Super bump... I just saw the movie on HBO. I don't think the idea was to have Ingrid from another planet... I think the movie wanted to display that Ingrid was 'fate'. When I see this movie, it reminds me of Final Destination except it's MUCH MUCH better and instead of 'signs' happening to tell what will happen the Mothman did. Plus, it's somewhat of a true story. EDIT: Also I thought it was a SWANK movie. Edited May 10, 2003 by Flyboy
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Posted May 10, 2003 Report Posted May 10, 2003 There is actuallt a good bit more to the story Jingu$. There have been reported sighting of "The Mothman" for years right before a big disaster hits. I found a site about it a while back, pretty interesting. I also thought the movie was really good.
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Posted May 10, 2003 Report Posted May 10, 2003 Wow...that makes some sort of sense...
Guest Flyboy Posted May 10, 2003 Report Posted May 10, 2003 Wow...that makes some sort of sense... My ghey analogy?
Guest C.H.U.D. Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 The acting is just abhorable in stir of echoes. IMO Damn, everything about that film ruled, especially the acting. One of Bacon's best performances. As for Mothman, I loved it. Great atmosphere and cinematography. It also has one of the best endings I've seen in a while.
Guest kkktookmybabyaway Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 I saw it. I returned it to Blockbuster. I moved on. Next...
Guest Scud Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 I live in Point Pleasant, West Virginia and I find it really funny to hear all of these stories and things. The people who have claimed to have seen the Mothman were alcoholics or crazy. I know a guy who says that he killed the Mothman and buried him in his backyard. Everyone in town knows the guy too, and whenever you hear stories somebody always talks about him.
Guest SP-1 Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 There are alot of legends. Gere's character is based on a reporter who investigated and claimed to get the messages that Gere's character recieved. I don't put much stock in it, but there's alot of shit swirling in that porcelain pot of legend.
Guest Lethargic Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 I thought Mothman ruled. I'm thinking of getting the SE DVD later this month. It helps if you've heard the real stories and the real guy talking about it on Art Bell for years.
Guest hardyz1 Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 Stir of Echoes was good. Now Hollow Man, there's a movie with a great concept ruined by terrible acting and dialogue.
Guest ArkhamGlobe Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 I liked Mothman. Good craftsmanship all around, though it never quite reached it's full potential in my mind atleast. As for Stir of Echoes, it's been a while since I saw it, but I remember thinking it was very good, especially due to Kevin Bacon's performance, and overall good to very good craftsmanship.
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted May 11, 2003 Report Posted May 11, 2003 I thought it was a good movie, something akin to an episode of the X Files, but I can see how some people would be turned off to the movie. And who is it that posted further up and now has no member name or anything..wierd.
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