Guest Downhome Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Ok, we all know by now more than likely that Steve Austin has quite possibly been fired from the WWE. Now, they haven't really said THAT exactly, but they did say he has been removed from the active list of wrestlers. Yes, this could mean that he is still under contract, but is no longer going to be allowed to perform, or whatever. Ok, that's all a given, and none of us REALLY know for sure, but... ...let's think about this situation, and look at it like Austin has been fired, totally released of ALL contractual ties, etc... and he is now free to do whatever he wants, in theory of course. If this is the case, what could it possibly mean to Steve Austin, WWE, and quite possibly NWA-TNA? I know that if I was over at that group and I had heard that Austin was no "available", that I'd be pulling ALL STOPS to grap his ass up ASAP. Hell, I bet they are just creaming themselves over the CHANCE that this could happen, etc... I know I sure wouldn't blame them. So let's take this that much further... ...what if NWA-TNA came to terms with "Stone Cold"? Surely this would be nothing but a good thing for both parties. Steve Austin would need/want somewhere to work, and NWA-TNA sure could use THAT kind of star power. Hell, Austin is one of the top names in all of the Pro. Wrestling industry, so he would obviously make one hell of an impact. So, do you guys think that type of situation could work out? I mean, let's look at the roster that NWA-TNA would then have... 1) "Stone Cold" Steve Austin 2) Scott Hall 3) Ken Shamrock 4) Gran Apolo 5) Jeff Jarrett 6) Brian Christopher 7) Marcus "Buff" Bagwell 8) Konnan 9) Steve Corino 10) Rick Steiner 11) K Krush 12) Devon Storm 13) Vampire Warrior 14) Prince Justice 15) Norman Smiley 16) Christian York 17) Joey Matthews 18) The Dupps 19) Teo 20) Hollywood 21) AJ Styles 22) Jerry Lynn 23) Low Ki 24) Jorge Estrada 25) Sonny Siaki 26) Jimmy Yang 27) Francine 28) Richard & Rod Johnson ...then add to that the free agents that they could sign. Guys like Warrior (yes he sucks, but would make a hell of an impact for a new promotion), Scott Steiner, and the man that would do wonders for the company... ...Goldberg. Just imagine if NWA-TNA was able to get Steve Austin, and THEN signed Goldberg, and that long awaited feud actually happened! Would it be ironic or WHAT if that feud finally happend, and NOT in either WCW or WWE? Anyhow, just leave your thoughts on the Austin situation, the THEORY of what if he went to NWA-TNA, and hell, just about NWA-TNA over all, what you think, etc... I don't know about you, but if this THEORY went through, then damnit... ...the WWE just MIGHT have come competion, finally! Sincerely, ...Downhome...
Guest J*ingus Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 I've been thinking the same thing all day. They couldn't call him Stone Cold due to copywright stuff, but hell, it's still Steve F'n Austin, the biggest star of the last decade in wrestling. He would be the ONE guy who could almost guarantee financial success for a new company. Mr. Jarrett, if Austin really is a free agent, hire him NOW. I don't care if he makes Savage-like demand for a ridiculous sum of money, hire him anyway. People will pay to see him, bottom line.
Guest Downhome Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 I've been thinking the same thing all day. They couldn't call him Stone Cold due to copywright stuff, but hell, it's still Steve F'n Austin, the biggest star of the last decade in wrestling. Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Steve Austin and Debrah themselves came up with "Stone Cold" in the first place. Hell, I thought he was called something like that in ECW. Do they not in fact own that name?
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Steve Austin and Debrah themselves came up with "Stone Cold" in the first place. Hell, I thought he was called something like that in ECW. Do they not in fact own that name? He was Steve Austin before he got divorced from his first wife.
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Hmm. If Vince McMahon was reading this thread, he'd be giggling with delight, in theory of course.
Guest justcoz Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 These are all interesting scenarios and if any of this became true it could completely redefine the business. It would also be interesting just because of the heat with Austin and the Jarretts in the past. Keep in mind though that Debra traveled with Jeff Jarrett and the two and Owen were said to be very close. NWA-TNA already has one hell of a roster in my opinion to compete. ALl they would need would be one major WWE name and possibly a major WCW name like Goldberg, Steiner of Sting and suddenly there is competition again. If this happened, USA Network, WTBS and TNT should all pay close attention also. Brace yourselves for the Monday Night Wrestling Wars II. JUSTCOZ PITTSBURGH NET RADIO Pittsburgh has a music scene, NOW CAN YOU DIG THAT SUCKAS!!!!
Guest Risk Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 I don't think a promotion that has two human sized "penises" will give the WWE any trouble. Hell, I may complain about the WWE's product, but I'm not watching giant penis men. NO WAY IN HELL.
Guest alfdogg Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he was called "Superstar" Steve Austin in ECW.
Guest Risk Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Right, alfdogg. He was "Superstar" Steve Austin in ECW.
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Can he get his name legally changed to Stone Cold Steve Austin like Rick Rude and those guys did?
Guest Human Fly Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 In theory Austin could show up in NWA with almost the exact gimmick. It's not like cussing, flicking people off, drinking beer and saying "What?" can be trademarked.
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that Steve Austin and Debrah themselves came up with "Stone Cold" in the first place. Hell, I thought he was called something like that in ECW. Do they not in fact own that name? He was Steve Austin before he got divorced from his first wife. His FIRST wife came up with the name Stone Cold... she was British, and told him to "drink his tea, before it gets stone cold" and then the little light bulb went off. But just because he tought of it doesn't mean Vince didn't copyright it. I think the reason Hogan was still able to be "Hulk" Hogan was because the WWF had to liscence "Hulk" from Marvel Comics... Thats why some guys (Like Ultimate Warrior) legally change their names to their gimmick names so they can use them. (Can't prevent someone from using their full, legal name)
Guest converge241 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 The stone cold name was reaffirmed in his mind from watching a HBO documentary about some "stone cold" killer .. he tossed around Iceman too. WWE would keep paying him per terms of his contract, just to keep the rights to him. Face it, it would be worth it to pay him the downside guarantee to keep someone else from making money on him. Im sure Vince has some loophole to deprive him of bonus money and merchandise cuts to aggravate him along the way. Now as far as NWA-TNA goes, sure there is heat but if/when his contract was up , Jerry Jarrett would take him in a second. One of the greatest wrestling rules is: If money can be made, nothing else matters
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 I was going to point out that Jeff Jarrett supposedly hasn't got over his personal issues with Austin, though things like that can easily be overlooked.
Guest RetroRob215 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 I think Steve and Jeff could put their personal differences aside seeing how they both have a common enemy.
Guest myburninghammer Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 if you guys want to talk theory then performing to a 1000 freebies in huntsville seems too small a stage for someone like Austin. He's probably the only guy in the company--if the Rock wasn't so tied down to his WWE trademarked stage name he'd be the other--or the business itself who has the drawing power and name recognition to get national TV access for a company. With some financial backing and a good management team, he could form his own company and get syndication or a cable deal easily, which would sure beat NWATNABCDEFG, no? I can't imagine, assuming this whole thing goes south, that he'd want to work for someone else after this...
Guest RetroRob215 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 He wants to work, but he wants creative control, which he didn't have in the WWE. The NWA would probably let him do whatever the hell he wanted just because of his name value.
Guest humongous2002 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 The NWA might hire Austin but there is one problem, him and Jeff Jarrett don't get along. When Double J came back to the WWF back in 97 he cut a promo about Austin and his 3:16 catchphrase, Steve didn't like what he heard and later on when he was the WWF champ he refused to have an angle with Jarrett because of it.
Guest Downhome Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 When Double J came back to the WWF back in 97 he cut a promo about Austin and his 3:16 catchphrase, Steve didn't like what he heard and later on when he was the WWF champ he refused to have an angle with Jarrett because of it. Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present to you Exibit A on why Steve Austin is now being dealt with, and SHOULD be punnished.
Guest Tony149 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 If Austin quit or got fired by the WWE...I can see him going to the Jarretts' NWA just to show Vince he's still got value and took an upstart promotion to a national powerhouse. Do I see this happening? I really don't know. But wrestling has proven anything can happen.
Guest Downhome Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 If Austin quit or got fired by the WWE...I can see him going to the Jarretts' NWA just to show Vince he's still got value and took an upstart promotion to a national powerhouse. Do I see this happening? I really don't know. But wrestling has proven anything can happen. Don't get me wrong, I don't really think that this is going to happen. My reasoning is not because I don't think Austin and NWA-TNA would do it however, but rather, I don't think that Vince is just going to totally release Austin for him to be able to do that. I mean, come on guys, Vince doesn't really want any competition, I think that's fairly obvious... ...but IF Vince released Austin, then there isn't a doubt in my mind that Austin would be signed by NWA-TNA the very moment that he is available.
Guest Slapnuts00 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 It's not going to happen. Austin hates Jarrett, and would not work for him, and I can't see him taking orders from Jarret. Also, who would Austin feud with? Hey Scott Hall's there! Austin loves Hall, and they can feud again! As you all said, Vince would make sure this never happened anyway.
Guest Just call me Dan Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 Austin can't be there. He'd be a total hypocrite! He doesn't like the people he worked with and seemed unmotivated, so all of the sudden Scott Hall, Buff Bagwell and Grandmaster Sexay will spark that up? Even so, the only believable ME stars could be Jarrett, Hall, Shamrock and Austin, it would get just as old as the WWE's ME scene, only quicker. Austin would be unbeatable and it would be the same bullshit over and over. That's not a good direction for any wrestling company, and if Austin went to NWA to work with those people and just kick everone's ass he would contradict all his arguments with Vince and the WWE.
Guest Just call me Dan Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 I will say this, though. If the NWA-TNA promotion was able to snag Goldberg, Warrior, Savage, Sting or Steiner, just a couple of those along with the few decent guys left like Bigelow or Douglas, they could REALLY have something. I mean once you hve a company with big names and other talent you can push, it can skyrocket. The merchandising and the ticket sales would be great wtih Goldberg-Austin headlining the promotions quick success. Add the fact that misused and possibly unhappy guys like Tazz, Storm, DDP (if he still wrestled)etc could jump because they knew they would get good exposure and be able to be motivated could just add to the influx of talent. This is all way too much of a fantasy though. This promotion can't be that well put together and managed to be ready to become the second big promotion in North America running up against Vince's Billion dollar WWE.
Guest RetroRob215 Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 This promotion can't be that well put together and managed to be ready to become the second big promotion in North America running up against Vince's Billion dollar WWE. I think they already are the numer 2 company in the country. If not them, who else?
Guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Posted June 14, 2002 While I hope that they do become competitive with the weekly PPV's, It could backfire on them. Perhaps a deal with Fox Sports Net would be good. Yes it would be on at different times around the country but it would be better than what they have.
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