Guest Report post Posted June 15, 2002 From 10 meaning ok on some distant planet you might see this as a semi quasi almost decent finisher to 1 meaning....you gotta to be kidding me 10. Sleeperhold (Beefcake, Roddy Piper) At the time of the 80's early 90's sure the Sleeperhold might be believable. I mean there is science behind it cut the flow of blood to the brain, close off the supply of oxygen, or whatever Jesse and Gorilla would say to explain why someone got on the hold. And you do see a physical effect in someone "goin to sleep" Now a days a Sleeper is no more than a rest hold to for these lazy wrestlers who been suddenly given more time per match lately. 9. Full Nelson (Billy Jack Haynes, Warlord,Hercules) Same as above this is a move that any Law enforcement security group might teach trainees to Immobilize any Joe Smoe for about a minute. But asides that Full Nelsons normally can be broken via Leverage and these wrestlers are just in SHEER pain when are locked in, that these guys who pump iron to bulk up their muscles just can't seem to break the holds, Unless they are face wrestlers and can break it for dramatic effect. Alla Bulldog at WM7 with Warlord. 8. Three point stance Clothesline (Hacksaw Jim Duggan) You throw a guy in the corner, and Hacksaw gets down in 3 point stance run across the ring and drop a Guy with a clothesline with a decent velocity.. Case close right? Well think about the Time that is loss by Hacksaw moving to the opposite corner and get in that three point stance unless the opponent is facing the opposite direction while Hacksaw is 3pointing he ought to see Hacksaw coming in enough time. But this is wrestling so doesn't matter that they could dive out of the way three times by the time old Hacky saw can get to them, they take the clothesline like they were shot. 7. Classic Belly to belly suplex (Shane Douglas, Harley Race) Im not talking about the Angle ish Taz Ish over head belly to belly or a High Angle Belly to belly, Im talking about a guy capturing someone in a waistlock, they take a Step for momentum Lifts and Hits a Side belly to belly suplex. its not a dramatic move, and I can't imagine why Shane Douglas in ECW did this move as a Finisher and why people who could kick out of Highspots from Sabu, Neckbreaking Suplexes from Taz, but they go down for the count for Douglas belly to belly...wow 6. Bearhug (Nikolas Vokoff, Andre the Giant and pretty much any bigman) Another move that there some presidence for. Squeeze someones breath right out of them, but 9 times out of 10, unless it was performed on a jobber during a weekly show in the 80's no one is tapping to the Bearhug. and a usual Bell ringer will get you out of the hold. Bearhug become more of a weardown/resthold move these days 5) Legdrop (Hulk Hogan) I know the Hogan haters out there might want this down towards number 1 but hear me out. Legdrop is what i call a Down move, meaning you got to get someone down to perform it, and with this type of move you have to really beat someone down to convincingly drop a leg for them to go down for the count. the unfortunate thing is that we are talking about HULK HOGAN here, and we can't say that he ever did anything high impact on anyone, other than those weak Whipping with the belt. He is Plodding and Old school and just not as convincing now with the legdrop as he was when he was doing it in the 80's but then again hardly anyone is going down for the 3 because of his legdrop. which brings me too 4. The Elbow drop (Andre the giant, Abdullah the butcher, The Rock) Like The legdrop its a Down move, but its less of a Impact move than a legdrop. What made it convincing that people like Andre could legitly beat the opponent down to the point where a 500 pounder hitting a Elbow drop would be enough for a Pin convincingly, ditto for a 400 pounder old guy who Impales people with forks like Abby. The Rock...on the other hand, Is all Quick Fast High impacting LOOKING moves but when he gets the opponent down, he has to POSE over the guy first, throw the elbow pad, run to the ropes, rebound jump OVER the guy to rebound off the other ropes and finally slide and hit the elbow drop. I could begin by sayingthe guy could just kick Up right between the rock's legs. but your all thinking that anyway. So suffice to say the Peoples elbow is Low impact and takes to long to be convincing. 3. The Head vice Submission (Crush) Geez Finishers must help with the suspension to Disbelief. And Submission finishers must at least appear to possibly cause injury... and Crush's old Head vice seems a bit cartoonish. 2. Heart Punch (Mean Mark Callous, and Again Crush) This Reject move must come out of Indiana Jones and the Temple of DOOM when the High priest RIPPED the guy's Heart out and made it burst into flames...I guess thats what Mark and Crush was planning on doing, but all they did was Punch a guy in the chest and they fell down go BOOM. oki doki (Also before I get to the number 1 I should also mentionthe Honoriable Mentions like the IRON CLAW or the OLD GLORY KNEE DROP. BOOKER T's JUMPING SIDE KICK and a list of others but I digress) and the Top number 1 move that is so Weak that it shouldn't even be a Setup let alone the Finisher 1. THE WORM! (Scotty 2 Hotty) Thats right this crappy move gets the Award.... First Weak Bulldog puts down the guy...then Scotty gets the Dopey look, jumps around, Does the Worm gets up and does a CHOP! a CHOP PEOPLE Waki Waki! Now in the normal World anyone would get out of the way of someone who was doing a move that takes 45 seconds to pull off including the wheelchair bound handicap who had fallen and couldn't get up. And even if they didn't get out of the way at the time because they lost all four of their Limbs in a WAR...ITS STILL A FRICKEN CHOP! welp thats my top ten with honorable mention. Now lets see if you agree with me or you got your own set of ten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Renegade Report post Posted June 15, 2002 i was going to post but youve pretty much nailed it all, the only other one i could think of is the jackhammer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Tatanka's dancing, chop, chop, super-chop and yodelling samoan drop somehow never did it for me. Things like the worm are fine for an undercard pop, but once you get the pin with it it's beyond a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Good lord outback jack's boomerang should be here, One clothesline, wait for them to get up and a clothesline to the back! Argh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Technically, The Worm ended with a chop to the throat. With enough force, a chop to the throat could crush the windpipe, causing death. But it still sucks as a finisher... I'd take out the Sleeperhold, though, because it could be a very credible finisher at any given time, and I'd move everything up a spot to have the #1 worst finisher be given to... ...THE ATOMIC NOOGIE!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest crandamaniac Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Might i Throw in a few other bad finishers: The Goon's Finisher: A body check that knocks you out. How devestating can that be? The Berserker's Finisher: Throwing over the ropes for count out? Come on! That's just a cop out, not a finisher Phantasmo's Finisher: The most creative one of the bunch, but how many World Titles can you get using a Wedgie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted June 15, 2002 The Running Power Slam as done by Dr Death Steve Williams and British Bulldog, I never really bought this as a credible finisher........how many singles titles did Davey Smith with with the move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mark4steamboat Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Slaughter's atomic noogie... awful but when i see it on tapes, i still laugh. Im a fan of the heart punch however. Stan Stasiak had one helluva heart punch and when sold correctly, the heart punch makes on awesome move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jack Tunney Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Actually the old head vice submission Crush used could be legit.I did it to my younger brother when I was little and he said it hurt like hell.And Adams is a lot stronger than a 9 year old kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mark4steamboat Report post Posted June 15, 2002 Yeah that does hurt i mean squeezing both temples isnt too pleseant. Much like a claw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 15, 2002 What about The Dusty Finish? Not, in this case, a booking reference, but Dusty Rhodes' finishing elbow combination? You know, series of jabs, roll the hands, bionic elbow to the head, then when the guy's down a falling elbow drop on the guy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mark4steamboat Report post Posted June 16, 2002 I agree the dusty finishers that youre referring to arent great but he rarely ended a match the same. especially a texas death match or something like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 17, 2002 More so than any other ridiculous move, I would like to see someone get the Atomic Noogie over as a finisher to day. No other move/hold is as glorious in its stupidity than that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted June 17, 2002 The Garvin Stomp seems to be hated by many, I don't know why this is but it seems to be a popular opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted June 17, 2002 walls of jericho (this is just a motherfucking boston crab, call it that) peoples elbow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted June 17, 2002 Never liked Chyna's sleeper/neckbreaker thing just cuz she didn't really ser up right and never got all of it. Warrior's Flying Shoulder Block/Splash could be bad in theory, but just because I was a Warrior fan, I won't say too many bad things about it. The Bubba Bomb...I can see it hurting, but not finishing matches, as he's done a few times since the split. I also never liked Sullivan's double stomp. The move would be nasty if done for real...but when he did it and actually won matches with it, I just always thought "That was it???" And I also liked the heart punch. When sold correctly, that move was cool. I also liked how the announcers used to sell that move as being illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BookerTman Report post Posted June 18, 2002 One of Master P's cronies in WCW, Swoll used the heart punch but Swoll sucked. I also vote for Hogan's legdrop, The Peoples Elbow and the DREADED WORM! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 18, 2002 Any move that's a normal move but with faggass gestures just before being done: Hogan's leg drop, The People's Elbow, or the WORM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What?! Report post Posted June 19, 2002 HEY!!! The People's Elbow was 1998 RSPW Best Move Of The Year! You can never take that away But, for worst finisher, I'll go with the Texas Tornado's spin punch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lomasmoney Report post Posted June 20, 2002 Swoll was over like rover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gwf0704 Report post Posted June 20, 2002 Kerry Von Erich would use the Tornado Punch (Discus Punch) as a setup move for his real finisher which was the clawhold thru his career, but in the WWF McMahon for some reason wouldn't let him use it. Mistake in my opinion. Worst finisher to me is the Anglelock as I always wondered why the guy didnt kick him in the face with his other foot to make him let go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 20, 2002 I remember Swoll using an Asiatic Thrust (open handed uppercut) as a finisher once on WCWSN. But the funniest thing was he followed through ending up on one knee like the old Undertaker pose and just posed like that for five seconds until he pinned the guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest big Dante Cruz Report post Posted June 20, 2002 Okay, I've thought about this one, actually. -Big boot/legdrop combo: come on, how do you win a World title with this move? Really? It's a standing legdrop. ( It's not a running legdrop, Hogan doesn't/can't run. ) -Heart punch: I think this is one of the flat out stupidest moves. Just think about it. It's a punch to the ribcage. -The Worm: *sigh* stuff like this... -Russian Sickle: running clothesline as a finish. Riiiiiiiiiiiight. See also: Jack, Outback -Roaring Elbow: So, let me get this straight. Mike Awesome kicks out of the Diamond Dust, a tornado ddt on a chair and a powerbomb out of the ring but loses to a standing elbow? -Shining Wizard: From what I've heard... it's a knee to the head. And it's hugely over. Reminds me of the Roaring Elbow. Three words: What the hell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted June 20, 2002 I love the roaring elbow. Tanaka delivers it stiff and it looks pretty impressive too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted June 20, 2002 People's Elbow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted June 20, 2002 The Roaring/Rolling Elbow is a finisher becuase Misawa uses Elbow Smashes and Rolling Elbows as finisher along with the Tiger Drivers and Suplexes. They are damn stiff, and after a huge beating. <kayfabe> you think a 260 lbs ish man charging at you at full speed and smashing you in the face with a elbow isn't gonna hurt just a little bit? </Kayfabe> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest big Dante Cruz Report post Posted June 22, 2002 Even in kayfabe mode, I don't think hitting someone in the face with an elbow shot goes up there with Tiger Drivers, Dragon Suplexes, super triple flip shooting star 450 splashes and Diamond Cutters. (what the hell?) Now, an elbow to the back of the head, sure... But that's the martial artist in me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
