Hunter, pack your bags

[Guest bcu1979]

Well, now that J.R. has gone on Confidential and talked about how it's time for anyone who doesn't want to be a team player to go home, I anxiously await the upcoming storyline dictated departures of Triple H, Undertaker, Kevin Nash, X-Pac and Shawn Michaels from WWE television. (Hogan's pink slip is pending on the outcome of his KOR match with Angle.)

 

The most ridiculous part of the show was actually not Vince McMahon trying to play a sympathetic victim. Or J.R. and Vince trying to claim new stars would benefit from Ausitn's departure after Vince has placed himself as top heel on both shows again and Triple H got 45 minutes of airtime on Smackdown.

 

It was poor J.R. trying to stand up for the company. He was recounting his phone conversation with Austin where Austin told him on Sunday that he was not coming to work on Monday unless storylines were changed. J.R. claims he told Austin "that's not the way we do things around here."

 

Really? Was that policy not in place two weeks ago when X-Pac quit and walked out to his car after he found out he would have to do two jobs in one night? But since it was Triple H's buddies (X-Pac and Nash) who complained, the storyline gets changed and they convince X-Pac to stay.

 

I'm supposed to buy the WWE as being on some moral high ground in this situation when a similar incident happened a couple weeks back and they bent over and changed the storyline. Austin HAS to do the job to Brock Lesnar, but X-Pac doesn't have to job to Booker T.

 

Austin may have been wrong to walk out the way he did, but excuse me if I'm not running out to buy the WWE a sympathy card.

[Guest]

AMEN!  I'll buy you a beer if I ever see you.  At least somebody here sees what's going on.

[Guest bob_barron]

when did XPac refuse to job to Booker T?

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

I'll drink to that.

[Guest]

I'm kinda confused...why didn't they just let X-PAc walk when he threatned to quit?:/

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

I'll drink to it as well.

 

Good post, bcu.

[Guest bcu1979]

when did XPac refuse to job to Booker T?

Booker T or Goldust. It was on the RAW a couple weeks ago where the Hardys wrestled X-Pac and Big Show and then wrestled Booker and Goldust later. The original plan was for Booker/Goldust to wrestle X-Pac/Show after X-Pac/Show lost to the Hardys with Booker/Goldust going over.

 

Nash and X-Pac threw their fit and the storylines were changed to better suit their liking.

[Guest]

Well done, but I think the reason xpac hasnt been terminated yet is becuase its been his one time. He does it again and he will be out. I am not defending the twirp formerly known as xpac at all. I think if xpac does it again though, now because of austin, he'll be out. And if HHH and his "boys" dont like it, too bad. But face it, terminating everyone cuases they have a temper tantrum every once is a while is not the way to go. Xpac better watch himself or he'll be next.

[Guest El Satanico]

You honestly believe that was the first time Xpac pulled something like that.

 

We could be in for an interesting month and not because of well written shows.

[Guest Smeghead]

Wow, bcu makes a damned good point.  I'm not defending Austin by any means.  There was a much better way for him to handle the situation.  But you can't really call Vince the victim in this situation either.  It's one of those situations where no one is in the right.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

when did XPac refuse to job to Booker T?

WHY DOES THAT LITTLE PRICK STILL HAVE A JOB???

[Guest WWF4Life]

X-Pac didn't walk because he was supposed to lose to Booker, he and Nash went to walk because they didn't like the content of the promo they were meant to cut that night. Both of them confronted the writers and suggested alternatives to the promo, which was rewritten and led to Nash's promo on the state of the nWo, which was his best promo in WWE so far.

 

On the other hand, Austin didn't even confront the writers. He threw his toys out of his pram and went home, without the balls to say anything face to face. Totally childish.

[Guest Raven_Effect01]

when did XPac refuse to job to Booker T?

WHY DOES THAT LITTLE PRICK STILL HAVE A JOB???

Because he's friends with the same wrestler who screws the head writer and buries Chris Jericho's credibility every time.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

X-Pac didn't walk because he was supposed to lose to Booker, he and Nash went to walk because they didn't like the content of the promo they were meant to cut that night. Both of them confronted the writers and suggested alternatives to the promo, which was rewritten and led to Nash's promo on the state of the nWo, which was his best promo in WWE so far.

 

On the other hand, Austin didn't even confront the writers. He threw his toys out of his pram and went home, without the balls to say anything face to face. Totally childish.

When X-Pac and Nash did it, they pulled it when neither JR or Vince MchMahon were there (Vince was off filming Austin's bar saga, if you remember) and considering how smart Nash is, it was probably done on purpose. Hell, they even had it cordinated so that X-Pac would come off as the loose cannon (walking out into his car even) and Nash had to calm him down and bring him back in, making Nash appear to be a team player.

 

And saying that was "the best WWE promo to date" is arguable at best considering most people enjoyed even Shawn's shooty mess of a promo upon his return more than anything Nash has said.

 

And Austin did confront the writers the night before. What happened within that confrontation, only they know, but I highly doubt Steve just said "alright" and hung up. You shouldn't be so quick to judge a situation that hasn't been fully explained, no matter how selfish Austin may have seemed.

[Guest Anglesault]

Well done, but I think the reason xpac hasnt been terminated yet is becuase its been his one time.

What about last week when he threw the shitfit about having to wrestle twice in one night? Wasnt he upset that Jeff Hardy was supposed to lay him out?

[Guest WWF4Life]

When X-Pac and Nash did it, they pulled it when neither JR or Vince MchMahon were there (Vince was off filming Austin's bar saga, if you remember) and considering how smart Nash is, it was probably done on purpose. Hell, they even had it cordinated so that X-Pac would come off as the loose cannon (walking out into his car even) and Nash had to calm him down and bring him back in, making Nash appear to be a team player.

 

And saying that was "the best WWE promo to date" is arguable at best considering most people enjoyed even Shawn's shooty mess of a promo upon his return more than anything Nash has said.

 

And Austin did confront the writers the night before. What happened within that confrontation, only they know, but I highly doubt Steve just said "alright" and hung up. You shouldn't be so quick to judge a situation that hasn't been fully explained, no matter how selfish Austin may have seemed.

I'm fully aware of what happened regarding Nash and X-Pac, as far as Vince being away etc. I was pointing out that it had nothing to do with jobbing to Booker T. I wasn't talking about the supposed political manoeuvring of Nash. Correct me if I'm wrong, but J.R. was there, as he was the one who later talked to X-Pac.

 

When I said it was Nash's best promo so far, I stick with it. The key word is Nash's. There have been better promos obviously, but that was Nash's best.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

X-Pac and Nash threaten to leave because of how they saw the nWo angle. X-Pac walks and gets pulled to stay.

 

X-Pac threaten to leave AGAIN because of working 2 nights.

 

Austin leaves after being buried in the nWo again. Becuase it is him vs crap.

 

Austin leaves Monday for not wanting to be hotshotted into a lesnar match.

 

list of people who need to get fired from this point on for all the crap on and off screen: Steph McMahon, Paul Heyman, Brain G(head bookers of the shows, if not fired, atleast sent to else where), X-Pac, Austin, Nash, Bob Holly, Mark Herny, Val Venis, Godfather, Big Show, Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

I'm fully aware of what happened regarding Nash and X-Pac, as far as Vince being away etc. I was pointing out that it had nothing to do with jobbing to Booker T. I wasn't talking about the supposed political manoeuvring of Nash. Correct me if I'm wrong, but J.R. was there, as he was the one who later talked to X-Pac.

 

When I said it was Nash's best promo so far, I stick with it. The key word is Nash's. There have been better promos obviously, but that was Nash's best.

I'm pretty sure J.R. wasn't there. I remember reading that Shane had to calm both of them down. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

And I mis-read your statement to be "the best promo in the WWE so far" so I was obviously confused. Yes, that could have been has best promo so far, but again, I don't think that says much.

[Guest Anglesault]

I thought his Post Mania promo was better.

[Guest bcu1979]

I'm fully aware of what happened regarding Nash and X-Pac, as far as Vince being away etc. I was pointing out that it had nothing to do with jobbing to Booker T. I wasn't talking about the supposed political manoeuvring of Nash. Correct me if I'm wrong, but J.R. was there, as he was the one who later talked to X-Pac.

If it had nothing to do with X-Pac having to do two jobs, why was the match changed so X-Pac didn't have to do the second job? X-Pac ran off like a whiny bitch and got his way because of who his friends were. There's no difference between the Austin and X-Pac situations except X-Pac got his way and Austin did not. (Well, besides the fact that Austin is the biggest draw in the history of the company and X-Pac is a worthless flunky.)

 

Kevin Nash was pissed off because Ric Flair put Booker T in the NWO and he felt only HE should be allowed to put Booker in the NWO. So, they let him invite Booker into the NWO so it would make sense in his mind.

[Guest Vyce]

Well done, but I think the reason xpac hasnt been terminated yet is becuase its been his one time. He does it again and he will be out.

 

Don't put any faith in that.

 

Wait and see.  Eventually you'll be saying, "This is just X-Pac's 184th time, they'll fire him if he does it again."

 

Sean isn't going ANYWHERE as long as he has friends in high places.

[Guest netslob]

hey, my 69th post. heh heh heh

 

Because he's friends with the same wrestler who screws the head writer and buries Chris Jericho's credibility every time.

really?  whose that?

 

 

 

 

 

btw, i just "Quoted" the Raven (Effect)...Nevermore!

[Guest]

People are so bitter towards Pac that they make up lies now? Pac never refused to job to Booker, he simply wanted a better direction for the nwo (a group that vince spent millions on), and it worked too.  He refused to work twice which was stupid but he did it because the finish involved a guitar shot and he didnt want to hurt his neck, also because he felt Hayes was punishing him for the mullet incident, who knows if he is telling the truth, but if u cut Austin some slack, than cut Pac some slack because he still appears to have his mental capacitities functioning.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Yes, deluding yourself into thinking that you're a main eventer when you've done nothing more than main event RAW once or twice is a SURE sign of mental competantcy, I tell ya...

[Guest]

I wouldn't mind if they kept X-Pac around to give more of those wonderfully entertaining interviews on the WWE website. They should only put him on television to do the occasional job to Spike Dudley.

[Guest jimmy no nose]

I think the difference is that Vince talked to Austing after JR did and Austin agreed to what he said.  Then he walked out because of the same thing that he just agreed to.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

People are so bitter towards Pac that they make up lies now? Pac never refused to job to Booker, he simply wanted a better direction for the nwo (a group that vince spent millions on), and it worked too.  He refused to work twice which was stupid but he did it because the finish involved a guitar shot and he didnt want to hurt his neck, also because he felt Hayes was punishing him for the mullet incident, who knows if he is telling the truth, but if u cut Austin some slack, than cut Pac some slack because he still appears to have his mental capacitities functioning.

A guitar shot? Where in the blazes would they work in a guitar shot? Are the Hardys and Bookdust using those as weopons these days? Just as someone previously questioned, if he didn't protest jobbing to Booker, why was it changed?

 

His fear of Hayes getting back at him was only a factor in his refusal to work heat. Hayes books that show, so Sean thought that the Mullet incident was motivating Hayes to have him layed out by Jeff Hardy. The walking out on Raw incident had nothing to do with Hayes.

 

And X-Pac's mental capicities are not exactly something to brag about either, considering he claims to "be a main event guy" and that he has "been a main event guy before" which is about the most ridiculous statement to come from Nash's camp since Shawn told X-Pac that he was a good worker. No one is cutting Austin ANY slack (whether he deserves it or not) from where I'm sitting, so what makes X-Pac deserve any? Why should I give the benefit of the doubt to a guy who's leached off of his buddies for the past five years and thinks he's a star because of it?

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Not that I think X-Pac is the sharpest knife in the drawer, but that "I'm a main eventer" stuff that he says during net interviews seems specifically designed to get certain groups of fans riled up, and does a pretty good job of it from what I can tell. Whether he actually believes it or not is debatable.

[Guest converge241]

yeah i agree with the Xpac/Nash thing. Anybody who tries to pull the "screw you guys , im going home" thing should be g-double o-double n-e

[Guest notJames]

A guitar shot? Where in the blazes would they work in a guitar shot?

Not to defend Waltman, but I think this has to do with Hardy's backstage vignette where's he's talking to his brother Matt and strumming a guitar, and then he goes on about "not being Xtreme, living for the moment..." They's probably work it in from that...