AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 it's like watching the matrix... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Travis Lutter has still performed the best against Silva. Lasting the longest, and coming the closest to winning. That's just weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Anderson Silva is one scary fighter, and way above any current middleweight. He dismantled Franklin with ease, yet again. I can't wait to see who steps up next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 I know Vera had a broken hand, so why not mix it up and throw some leg kicks when you separate from Big Tim? Instead of fighting Sylvia's game. I might just have to become Sylvia fan... I don't like him either, but he's getting so underrated by people who hate him and that seems to be 98% of MMA watchers. Oh yeah, this shit was horrible... they're starting to have problems coming up with decent cards, nothing entertaining on the undercard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 "This shit was horrible" = This PPV was horrible? If that's your thinking then you'd be best to not post in this folder anymore. Very solid show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 "This shit was horrible" = This PPV was horrible? If that's your thinking then you'd be best to not post in this folder anymore. Very solid show. You were honestly satisfied with the fights last night? Belcher vs. Starnes Horrible fight. Schafer vs. Bonnar Just average. Robinson vs. Gurgel Gurgel is a pile of crap. Sylvia vs. Vera ... Silva vs. Franklin Ok this was an amazing fight. Silva vs. Franklin definitely doesn't turn the entire card into "solid" for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Undercard. I could watch Sylvia/Vera and Franklin/Silva all day. Those two fights bring up what was an otherwise mediocre PPV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 "This shit was horrible" = This PPV was horrible? If that's your thinking then you'd be best to not post in this folder anymore. Very solid show. You were honestly satisfied with the fights last night? Belcher vs. Starnes Horrible fight. Schafer vs. Bonnar Just average. Robinson vs. Gurgel Gurgel is a pile of crap. Sylvia vs. Vera ... Silva vs. Franklin Ok this was an amazing fight. Silva vs. Franklin definitely doesn't turn the entire card into "solid" for me. Belcher vs Starnes was horrible? Stop watching MMA. That was perfectly acceptable fighting. Bonnar vs Schafer wasn't amazing but nothing to get offended about. Robinson/Gurgel was good back and forth with Jorge tooling him in the first and Robinson coming back in the second and third to whoop that ass. Sylvia/Vera wasn't good, no questions there and the main event was fantastic and even the Jensen/Maia fight had some sick jiu-jitsu in it. Honestly, if this wasn't a solid card to you then I'm not sure what to say other then you're expecting too much from MMA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 "This shit was horrible" = This PPV was horrible? If that's your thinking then you'd be best to not post in this folder anymore. Very solid show. You were honestly satisfied with the fights last night? Belcher vs. Starnes Horrible fight. Schafer vs. Bonnar Just average. Robinson vs. Gurgel Gurgel is a pile of crap. Sylvia vs. Vera ... Silva vs. Franklin Ok this was an amazing fight. Silva vs. Franklin definitely doesn't turn the entire card into "solid" for me. Belcher vs Starnes was horrible? Stop watching MMA. That was perfectly acceptable fighting. Bonnar vs Schafer wasn't amazing but nothing to get offended about. Robinson/Gurgel was good back and forth with Jorge tooling him in the first and Robinson coming back in the second and third to whoop that ass. Sylvia/Vera wasn't good, no questions there and the main event was fantastic and even the Jensen/Maia fight had some sick jiu-jitsu in it. Honestly, if this wasn't a solid card to you then I'm not sure what to say other then you're expecting too much from MMA. I expect more than sloppy brawling (Belcher vs. Starnes, mostly Starnes), crappy fighters getting onto the main card (Gurgel, who basically forfeited the fight to Robinson), and standing LNP (Sylvia vs. Vera, yeah, I'm blaming both of them so it's not like I'm just hating on Sylvia although Vera also had a broken hand). Maia's fight was an undercard fight so it wasn't guaranteed but I liked it. This is just like back in 2005 when Griffin vs. Bonnar was called "FOTY" just because it was two morons brawling for three rounds. Take Silva vs. Franklin off of the card and you have an absolutely horrible ppv. I bet you're the kind of fan who watches something like Cote vs. Leben and goes "WOW what a slugfest!" That kind of shit is just boring and ugly to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Griffin/Bonnar was FOTY for so many reasons beyond it being sloppy brawling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Griffin/Bonnar was FOTY for so many reasons beyond it being sloppy brawling. List them then. All I saw was two tall fighters exchanging crappy punches while utilizing minimal defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Emotion. Heart. First-ever UFC card on live television. Crazy crowd heat. Drew a whole slew of new fans to the UFC. I mean, you're not a retard so I'm not sure why you're pretending that the things mentioned above didn't factor into this fight being as big as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Belcher/Starnes was fucking dope. Talent looked very good and lived up to the prospect label. A few more fights to develop him and he's a contender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 If you watch fighting only for good technique, then that's your shit and have fun with it. But some people watch it for more than just well executed moves and nice strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2007 Emotion. Heart. First-ever UFC card on live television. Crazy crowd heat. Drew a whole slew of new fans to the UFC. I mean, you're not a retard so I'm not sure why you're pretending that the things mentioned above didn't factor into this fight being as big as it is. That makes it an important fight, not "FOTY." Take Uno vs. Hansen for example since it occured a month before Griffin vs. Bonnar 1. It was exciting and technical and definitely deserving of being mentioned as fight of the year. It seems like sloppy slugfests get nominated for FOTY all the time when they don't deserve shit. Hell Leben vs. Martin was another sloppy brawl and I actually hate both of them but it was still more exciting to me than Griffin vs. Bonnar 1 even though I don't hate them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2007 Dana White: There's a lot of middleweight prospects right now, but no one has really stood out from the pack as a challenger to Anderson. So I talk with our matchmaker Joe Silva about who we should put in line for a title shot - who would give Anderson a run for his money - and Joe says "What about BJ"? Now, I'm like, Penn? BJ Penn? You want BJ Penn, a 155 guy, to fight 30 pounds above his weight class against the most dominant champion in the sport? And he didn't have to answer me, cause if there's one person who is good enough, and who is crazy enough, to step in against Anderson Silva, it's BJ Penn. So we call up BJ and he's like "I was waiting for you to offer me that fight, let's do it". This made me chuckle. It's true though, we all know BJ would do it. We also know that no matter what, you couldn't count the guy out. He has a shot against ANYBODY. Penn d. Fedor RNC Rd.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 Anderson Silva ($120,000) def. Rich Franklin ($45,000) Tim Sylvia ($200,000) def. Brandon Vera ($100,000) Alvin Robinson ($6,000) def. Jorge Gurgel ($7,000) Stephan Bonnar ($44,000) def. Eric Schafer ($6,000) Alan Belcher ($22,000) def. Kalib Starnes ($7,000) Yushin Okami ($24,000) def. Jason MacDonald ($17,000) Demian Maia ($10,000) def. Ryan Jensen ($4,000) Josh Burkman ($20,000) def. Forrest Petz ($6,000) Matt Grice ($6,000) def. Jason Black ($8,000) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 E-Fucking-Gads. Tim's paycheck + Tim's entertainment value do not equal the right amount. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ced 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 So, if this is legitimate, the defending champ dominates a former champ in the main event and combined they got paid less than Tim Sylvia in a non-title co-main event? I'm hoping that's not counting some behind-the-scenes bonuses, otherwise that's some bullshit right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 Obviosuly, Tim and Brandon got Fight of the Night bonuses added in there. Think people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 24, 2007 Tim signed himself a Mark Henry deal a while back it seems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Tim Sylvia is kind of smart for being such a big dolt. Rich Franklin and his blind loyalty towards Dana is a bad move... he should be getting 100+ grand a fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Yeah, I'm more likely to pay to see Rich fight anyone over Tim fighting...well, just about anyone. Except a bear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brush with Greatness 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 I thought Sylvia v. Cabbage was decent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 And that fight was over FIVE years ago, kind of proving the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2007 Was that the one fight where he actually looked non-flabby (i.e. back when he was on the juice)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted October 27, 2007 Oh yeah, all the fights up until Mir snapped his arm he looked REALLY imposing. His real build is just odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
