Mania Main Events

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

That's pretty sad.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

As opposed to wanting to see a heatless Jericho-Angle main event? That would be an average main event for an episode of RAW, let alone for Wrestlemania. Or maybe RVD should be in the main event... FLIPPY FLOP~! FLIPPY FLOP~!

[Guest Tony149]

Why is that match sad? Yeah, Hogan sucks in the ring. Hell, I'd wish Hogan would just retire. But his matches with The Rock, HHH, SCSA and even Vince McMahon can make money. And in wrestling...it's all about making the $$$$$$.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I didn't say that Angle/Jericho was the best Dream Match left.

 

But I would rather watch 2 guys that can go in the ring then a guy who over sells and a guy who flat out sucks.

[Guest Badd Company]

I dunno if Rock/Hogan is such a good idea.....HHH could have carried Hogan to a good match (at least pre-injury HHH), but I'm not so confident Rocky can.  Austin vs Hall sounds like a

RAW main event, not a match for Wrestlemania.  Nash vs Taker I was thinking was gonna happen, dunno why, other than the fact that it would give Vince's big man fetish a kick and the fact that Nash put over Taker clean at his last non-IYH WWF PPV, Wrestlemania XII.  HHH vs Jericho needs to be the main event, but they need to do a little more brainstorming for the rest.....a better choice (though not necessarily any better in quality) would be Austin vs Hogan, as IMO Austin is more over than Rock right now, and it has built in backstory, with Austin going from on deck for a world title push to jobbing to Jim Duggan in less than 30 seconds upon Hogan's arrival in WCW.

[Guest goodhelmet]

we're talking about Hogan as if he still has drawing power. the last few years of WCW clearly killed off any drawing power Hogan had. Whether he was on tv or not, WCW were drawing 2-3s in the ratings. the buyrates for ppvs he headlined didn't increase.

 

do you think that because Hogan is in the WWF machine that he will automatically start drawing crowds again. We said the same thing about the Invasion and it turned out to be a disaster.

[Guest Tony149]

Nobody cared to see what Hogan did in WCW. People think WCW's ratings suck. That's not the case at all. They still had good cable ratings. Wheather you like Hogan or not he HAS money matches with guys like SCSA, HHH & The Rock.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Actually...the INVASION ppv did good business.

 

Then poor storylines got in the way.

 

Now...WHY would anyone think that the NWO angle will fair any better with LESS wrestler who are LESS talented workers who also don't put anyone over.

 

How long can the angle work when every finish has the whole NWO running in and results in no decisions.

 

Maybe Vince really is trying to kill the WWF.

 

Is he dying?

[Guest The Vanilla Midget]

the whole rock/hogan thing is meant to be the wwf symbolising that hogan is passing the torch as mainstream crossover star to the rock.  however i think hogan should wrestle against flair or austin, austin especially and it could be billed as when eras collide.  sorta attitude vs the golden age of the 80's.

[Guest Tony149]

Hogan probably gets a match with Flair, SCSA, The Rock, HHH, etc. It's just which will come first.

[Guest goodhelmet]

"Actually...the INVASION ppv did good business.

 

Then poor storylines got in the way."

 

That's true, and it doesn't help to book an Invasion storyline when 3/4 of the invaders are from your own company.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Yeah something about Rock vs. Jericho for the WCW title didn't make much sense.

 

Or Alliance Austin vs, WWF Angle.

 

?

 

That's why I was glad that Vengeance came down to Austin vs. Jericho.

 

Both had worked in both  (hell all 3) companies.

 

And Austin never held the WCW title, Jericho never held the WWF title.

 

It meant alot more than Rock vs. Austin would have.

[Guest goodhelmet]

Plus with all this talk about Hogan money matches, the real money match remains Rock-Austin, not Hogan vs. whoever.

[Guest Tony149]

Rock/Austin is a money match that can be saved for a later date. Most don't think the nWo being back. So now is the time to get whatever money is left to be made off Hogan.

[Guest goodhelmet]

'Most don't think the nWo being back.'

What do you mean?

[Guest Tony149]

Oops! I meant to say "Most don't think the nWo being back is a good thing. So now is the time to get whatever money is left to be made off Hogan."

[Guest goodhelmet]

Hey, I shit on Hogan ALOT, but I also said on previous posts that Hogan vs. Austin at Summerslam could draw if built right. But with the crack addicted writing crew employed by the WWF, do you think they'll build on the history of these guys and give an intriguing storyline? The match alone won't sell if not promoted right.

 

Hell, look at the promos that open each PPV for the last two years. They're great! But they're not shown until the night of the PPV. If you want people to buy it, then it needs to be promoted and those video packages usually do a great job of hyping the show. I think Rock-Austin sells itself. I mean the storylines going into last years Mania were weak as Hell for the main event (Debra as Rock's manager?). Hogan-Austin to be successful needs a proper build.

[Guest Tony149]

That's true. All the WWF needs to do is have a good story for it. And hype it.

[Guest goodhelmet]

The story is right in front of their face!

Screw the NWO BS.

 

Hogan is a has been of the eighties. Austin is the pinnacle of modern wrestling. Austin constantly reminds Hogan he is a has been. They throw shoots and both claim to be the better man. Hogan wants to redeem himself in the WWF. Austin refuses to let him go out the right way. They cost each other title wins, interfering, etc. It builds until Summerslam until the tension is so high the place explodes.

 

I personally think the match will blow but noone here cares about actual match quality. The WWF can think about the money cos it's their business. As a consumer, I care about the quality of the product

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Why are people so confident Hogan is still this big draw?

[Guest Masahiro Nagata Kobuki Sun]

If Jericho ends up w/ Steph, will Triple H end up w/ Ralphus or Mr. Huges?

 

Some things make you wonder.

[Guest Flair5000]

"Why are people so confident Hogan is still this big draw?"

 

A good point - it's been a while, and a lot of people aren't going to care.

 

Please Vince, don't give us Taker/Nash. Please.

[Guest mastermind]

Okay, first I have to say AGAIN the reason you don't hear Austin/Hogan is that AUSTIN REFUSED to do a program with Hogan. It's all up in the media here in Toronto. As for Hogan not being a draw some might have a point, but I think the curiosity factor will play a part. I think most people might feel this is Hogan's last run(at least I hope so). It's sort of the Michael Jordan type thing here. Hogan can draw again in the WWF just because he's back in the WWF.

 

If you recall Hogan actually drew in wcw in 1994 and that's why they extended his contract around Halloween Havoc. He got stale as hell afterwards, but turned heel and we know what happened. Hogan/Austin is WrestleMania worthy and Hogan/Rock should be at SummerSlam since Rock's movie would have been released. However, this is the wwf we're talking about and they do things backwards.

 

As for the rumoured card I think Hogan/Rock will obviously be sports entertainment. Trips/Jericho should provide the wrestling. Hall/Austin can go into either category or be both. I still have my reserves about Trips/Jericho though. I also hate the fact he will win on sunday now it seems with the stack so piled against him. Oh well.

[Guest skullduggery6969]

I think RVD is supposed to be getting the IC title at Mania against Regal.....Hopefully they wont turn the Goldust-RVD feud into a 3 ppv long deal

 

As for Hogan vs Rock, yeah I'd pay for it, even though I know it will be a horrible match..Its the same reason why I bought the , ppv in WCW when Hogan first came in and faced Flair, its was just a mark-out thing for me..(Although, Flair always managed to carry Hogan to a 2 star match, no easy feat)..

 

Hogan is gonna look really bad and even slower, when he's in the bigger WWF ring again as compared to the smaller one in WCW.. He needs to work with a guy that can bump for him, maybe Rock can, I can definitely see Rock goin through a few announce tables....

[Guest mastermind]

Well, I think another money match is UT/Flair. At least give us that Vincent K. Mcmahon. If he carried old man Mcmahon I'm sure UT will have a better chance of not stinking up the joint.

 

Main Event

WWF undisputed unified title

Jericho (champ) vs. Triple H

 

Main Attraction

Hogan vs. The Rock

 

Co-Main Event

Scott Hall vs. Steve Austin

 

Undertaker vs. Ric Flair(who will be bumping like mad)

 

Who the hell Nash faces is beyond me! Actually, it might be purposely done, so we won't have to sit through his lazy body putting on a match. Actually if Bischoff is coming in we might get Nash/Taker/Bischoff vs. Ric Flair knowing how they always found ways to bury Flair.

[Guest JerryDrakeOnceAgainDoesNotWannaL]

You know what?

 

DO YOU THINK THE CASUAL FAN GIVES A FUCK ABOUT WORKRATE?

 

Rock/Hogan will DRAW, if you want workrate, go watch some jap shit.

[Guest Tony149]

It would be werid seeing Flair wrestle The Undertaker. Hell, Flair will just add Taker to the list of slugs he's carried.

[Guest goodhelmet]

"Rock/Hogan will DRAW,"

 

that remains to be seen

 

"if you want workrate, go watch some jap shit."

 

Why watch puro (not jap shit, dipshit) when the WWF has the talent to put on entertaining matches here in the states.

 

I personally don't want to see UT wrestle Flair. Now, Flair-Austin would be something special.

[Guest Brian]

Because the WWF won't. And they'll continue not to until Vince is gone.

[Guest goodhelmet]

I agree with you Brian but when the business bottoms out even further, it will be the wrestling that keeps fans around, not the convoluted sports entertainment crap. For it to be entertainment, it has to be, you know, entertaining.