Russo's Return Does Not Mean The End Of Wwe...

[Guest Downhome]

After hearing this news, and actually getting excited about it as it is at LEAST something that promises for something new, I then come here. I knew what to expect from the majority however, so it isn't really a huge suprise if you know what I mean. But come on people, you are seriously acting like this is the end of WWE, which, it is not. The Russo that many of us right here praised that was in the WWF is NOT the same Russo that was in WCW, believe it or not.

 

In the WWF, Russo did NOT have full reign. He came up with loads of ideas, and then Vince acted as a "filter" for all of his writings. However, in WCW from what I gather, Russo was basicly THE main in charge of the writing team. He had the final say, and there was no one to act as the "filter figure" that Vince so obviously played out. So first off, his two runs are not even comparable in that respect.

 

There are many plus's to his being hired by the WWE now, and I think many of you just either don't see them, or your hatred for Russo for what happened in WCW just simply runs so deep. Think about it...

 

...what is Vince allowed Russo to be the HEAD WRITER once again, and took the power from Steph? Is no one excited about Steph possibly not being the head booker anymore? I know I sure as hell am, and damnit, any type of change in this regards is good news to me! Also, how about the fact that Russo enjoys pushing the young, and up and coming talent? That certainly must have you at least partially excited, especially now that he has Vince to be his personal filter.

 

Also, it will be highly interesting what Russo does with Hogan now. Could it be that he will job Hogan to Angle this Sunday at KOTR? Could they possibly heal old wounds and work together? Perhaps Russo will pick another older guy to bitch out, I'm sure many of you would enjoy his triad going off on a HHH or a Taker (even though it wont happen, lol). The point, is that there is no telling what we're about to be in store for, so don't pretend that any of you know, not even myself.

 

We all should give him a chance, take this on the chin, and wait to pass judgement untill he has at least done SOMETHING. Keep your eye on TV for the next month. I'm sure we'll see some sort of difference, so let's just wait for the bashing, untill he gives us something to bash him about. Or hey...

 

...a few months from now, you haters just MIGHT be praising Russo. I'm sure some of you will "jump ship" if he does the slightest thing that you like, say, giving Benoit a respectable run with the Undisputed Title. Oh yeah, one more thing...

 

...it's going to be VERY interesting to see what happens in regards to Austin, the possible return of Bishoff, and the other people who are not in WWE like Steiner, Goldberg, and the such. All I'm saying is stay tuned, because the sh*ts about to hit the fan, one way or another!

 

Sincerely,

...Downhome...

[Guest jimmy no nose]

I don't think it'll make the WWE any better, but I don't think it'll be worse either.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Are we gonna see a bunch of Russo threads now?

[Guest Downhome]

I don't think it'll make the WWE any better, but I don't think it'll be worse either.

We shall find out soon enough, but I am serioulsy leaning towards it improving things, and I think we'll start to see it as soon as this Sunday at KOTR!

[Guest SuperTonyJaymz]

Didn't the main writer from 2000 leave/ got fired? They need him back.

[Guest Some Guy]

Are we gonna see a bunch of Russo threads now?

I imagine so.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

It's not the end of the WWE. It seems like yet another desparate plea for help, but hell anything is better. I don't know what kind of writing for which side of the roster he will be doing, but I'll admit it, I liked him for a while in WCW. He never had anyone to tame some of his ideas, but he did have people shooting down existing storylines of his when they heard of how they were planned to end. Thus, you have many dropped storylines.

 

You can't toally fault him though. His main guy (Goldberg) was refusing to be a heel, ripped his hand apart trying to show off and besides that, no one really had to do what they were told in WCW's clusterfuck backstage.

 

Russo had talent, but he also had pure shit at the top of the card (Sid, Hogan, Nash, Luger) He wrote the shows, but still had to put up with that shit headlining it for at least a year or so. Then you couple in the fact that just about ALL those guys had creative clauses, what the hell was he to do?

 

He brought in good talent, pushed good talent. If Vince keeps a threshhold on outlandish gimmicks and shit like that, we may have the answer we need.

 

Russo's era was notorious for short matches with shitty finishes and dead end build. Vince knows the ratings will be crucified if we are fed that. I think he's realizing that more and more of his fans are "smarks" because of the internet. He knows bad wrestling=low ratings. You couple in some of Russo's better ideas, with the good wrestling and I'll be happy.

 

The current product is crap. Bring on Russo.

[Guest dreamer420]

I'm not sure what to think of Russo returning to the wwe. i saw him a major factor in wcw demise but if he can get the wwe back to the way business was for the wwf in 98 and 99 then here's hoping it works.

[Guest RetroRob215]

So now since Russo is booking, do you think we will be swerved in the KOTR? King Val anyone?

[Guest The Electrifyer]

As long as Russo has no on camera role, I'm fine with it. But if Russo does make the WWE worse, Vince will probably go on and waste more money to hire back more big name stars. But my question is, will Russo be writer for both Raw and Smackdown?

[Guest Michael Joel Benoit]

No one knows what to expect from the demented mind of Russo. Count me in.

[Guest razazteca]

hey Downhome do you think that Vince McMahon remembers Sammy Jenkins?

 

The only good that I see in this is a possible lightweight push. The Worst could be XPac outed as being gay and joining Billy, Chuck, Goldust as stable winning all of the gold.

[Guest El Satanico]

With someone above him that approves all storylines Russo will be able to be creative but we won't have to see all his ideas. Russo can be and has been good, but he also can write some stupid shit so as long as he is filtered it won't be a bad thing.

[Guest Ash Ketchum]

hey Downhome do you think that Vince McMahon remembers Sammy Jenkins?

Who's Sammy Jenkins?

 

[Guest Dangerous A]

As long as Vince is there to edit Russo, things are not so bad. It's when Russo gets in his " I want to book towards the internet crowd even though it will fly over 98% of the crowds heads" modes is when he sucks. That when he goes overboard with the gimmick matches.

[Guest razazteca]

Sammy Jenkins is a character from the movie Momento, I asked this question since Downhome icon is the DVD cover of the movie.

 

Sammy has brain damage where he would forget certain things resulting into him getting into trouble and repeating the same mistake over and over again. I believe the movie Momento has become Vince McMahons real world life, where as he would have some people close to him tell him what to do not knowing the consequences resulting him getting into trouble. For example repeating some angles, bringing back wrestlers and writers, that bodybuilding federation, XFL blah blah blah.

 

Vince Russo has some good qualities but the bad overpower the good. Whether or not history will repeat itself again is not a question, the big question is how bad will it be in the long term. True "new talent" will get some quality tv time but look at Tommy Dreamer and Bradshaw pushes.

[Guest Downhome]

Sammy Jenkins is a character from the movie Momento, I asked this question since Downhome icon is the DVD cover of the movie.

 

Sammy has brain damage where he would forget certain things resulting into him getting into trouble and repeating the same mistake over and over again. I believe the movie Momento has become Vince McMahons real world life, where as he would have some people close to him tell him what to do not knowing the consequences resulting him getting into trouble. For example repeating some angles, bringing back wrestlers and writers, that bodybuilding federation, XFL blah blah blah.

Memento is my favorite movie ever, and Christopher Nolan is going to be a legend, PERIOD!

 

But yeah, now that I think about it, Vince sure as hell does sound a lot like Lenny!

[Guest El Satanico]

:raises hand:

 

is there any chance that we can...make a One and Only post for the Russo stuff?

[Guest Austin3164life]

Whoever was head booker and writer for the Main Event scene during 1997-1998 (especially 97) should be the head writer. If it was Russo, then maybe he MIGHT offer some good stuff, but I highly doubt it......

[Guest muswp1]

I officially predict that Russo will be canned before Summerslam. There are too many egos in the back right now that will not tolerate Russo's crap like Steph, HHH, Heyman, Undertaker, etc... and people who got screwed by Russo in WCW like Ric Flair that will make his life impossible and therefore his WWF employment very short.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Whoever was head booker and writer for the Main Event scene during 1997-1998 (especially 97) should be the head writer. If it was Russo, then maybe he MIGHT offer some good stuff, but I highly doubt it......

There is no head booker and writer. There's the writers and then there's Vince. It's always been that way. Russo was one of the more influencial ones, that's about it.

 

And the WWF nearly went out of business in 1997. Several times.

 

Downhome, no one was THE head booker at any time in WCW. Russo, just like every other head booker/babysitter they had could not control the locker room, and that was always the main problem. Russo tried to take advantage of the screwed up mentality that everyone in the locker room had, but just like every idea Russo came up with in WCW, it completely flopped.

 

Which brings me to my next point. All that Russo could think of to do with his new found creative outlet in WCW was to re-hash ideas he had used in the WWF. The only originial ideas he has are those of giving the finger to internet fans (putting the title on David Arquette) or blatantly repeating past angles (making Golberg "re-create" his winning streak, for instance) and none of it ever works. Ideas he used in '98-'99 are old and tired now, and that's proven by how the current fan base responds to them. Half the angles the WWE has used in the past year have been blatant attempts to re-create Russo's crash TV that did good ratings in the past, and they've all failed. Russo has nothing left to give, and should really be back at his video store making sure there are plenty of coppies of "Fletch" in stock.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I wouldn't mind seeing a list of all the things Russo was responsible for in his Wwf tenure. I seem to be focusing on the bad...you know, choppy choppy, golddust, ministry of darkness, potential incest angles, run ins and meaningless titles...

 

It's really telling about Vince Mcmahon when he will go to Russo before he will go to wrestling for saving the ratings. When Russo fails he will lose not only casuals, but a solid % of his hardcore base. Ah well, I have come to the conclusion that... Vince Mcmahon is a moron, as well as the rest of the Wwf brass.

 

The worst thing aboot this though is NO FUCKING SMACKDOWN WORKRATE REPORTS!!!!! DIE RUSSO DIIIIE!