Guest Ash Ketchum Posted June 20, 2002 Report Posted June 20, 2002 Basically, I'm trying to put together a list of every single way the Diamond Cutter has been done. Whether running, off the top rope or from a Fireman's carry, I know the list is huge. I'm trying to just put some sort of list together for ideas. Thanks. ~Ash~
Guest RetroRob215 Posted June 20, 2002 Report Posted June 20, 2002 I was just watching an indie match where Mark Briscoe hit the diamond cutter while flipping out of a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker. Pretty cool spot as he did it all in one motion.
Guest dreamer420 Posted June 20, 2002 Report Posted June 20, 2002 do you want to count the bubba cutter?
Guest Sandman9000 Posted June 20, 2002 Report Posted June 20, 2002 Phattest one I've seen was Nova vs. Little Guido. Nova has Guido up for a powerbomb, then he just pushed Guido's legs out and falls with him, hitting the Diamond Cutter. It got a "woah" out of the fans. I think Joey called it the Smash Mouth or some dumb name like that. Of course, I've never seen Nova or anyone use it again.
Guest Ash Ketchum Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 do you want to count the bubba cutter? Might as well. I think DDP used it a few times in WCW as a Diamond Cutter variation.
Guest DrainYou42 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 I'm pretty sure he did it out of a sleeper at least once or twice.
Guest dreamer420 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 the reversal from the jackhammer into the diamond cutter was sweetass!!!
Guest Fook_Hing_Ho Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 I remember in wcw when Kidman came off the top with a double axe handle and Page caught him wiht the diamond cutter. That was a sweet spot.
Guest DawnBTVS Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 DDP's done the Diamond Cutter Top Rope Hit Billy Kidman with one when Kidman was hanging off the cage Standing Flapjack into Diamond Cutter Jackhammer Reversed to Diamond Cutter Tommy Dreamer did a Diamond Cutter to Justin Credible off two ladders.
Guest razazteca Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 if you can just get a tape from when Paige was wearing the taped up ribs and jeans from 97-99 in WCW that was when DDP did a different versian in ever match. I remember these: 1) throw to ropes, opponet gets thrown straight up into air then.......BAM Diamond Cutter 2) from Fireman Carry, spin........Bam Diamond Cutter 3) Opponet sit on top rope then.....Bam Diamond Cutter 4) from the multiple pin spot of backslide, bridge up, tombstone set up, reversal into Diamond Cutter other peoples Diamond Cutters: Acid Drop by Spike Dudley 3D by Bubba & D-Von Diamond Dust by Masato Tanaka TKO by Marc Mero Twist of Fate by Matt Hardy
Guest Dace59 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 Ok, a Diamond Cutter is the basic Inverted Neckbreaker, so that means everyone verison ever. Which was invented by Regal BTW So we have: Inverted Neckreaker - Diamond Cutter Seated Inverted Neckbreaker - Stunner Opp On Top Rop Diamond Cuter Both people on Top Drop Diamond Cutter Opp On Top Rope Stunner - Super Whipersnaper Both people on Top Rope Stunner - Avalanche Whipersnaper (same name) Fireman's Carry to Inverted Neckbreaker -TKO Fireman's Carry to Stunner - Hawinai Smasher Flap Jack to Inverted Neckbreker - Mexican/Movemnet Crusher/Bubba Cutter (ECW) Powerbomb to Inverted Necbkreaker Inverted Suplex to Stunner - D Stunner Suplex to Stunner Inverted Suplex to Diamond Cutter Suplex to Diamond Cutter Inverted Swining Neckbreaker - Spin Doctor Reverse Inverted Swining Neckbreaker - Last Rites Front Face Lock to Diamon Cutter - Twist of Fate Somersault Stunner - Diamond Dust Opp on Partners shoulders Diamond Cutter Opp on Partners shoulders Stunner Opp on Partners shoulders Diamond Dust (the attacker comes off the top rope inf the above three) Tornado Diamond Cutter - Acid Drop Running Diamon Cutter Flap Jack w/ Diamond Cutter - 3D Lion Sault Counterd into Diamond Cutter Flying Diamond Cutter (Attacker dives off top rope/aprong/springboards/slingshots and catches opp on the way down) Gorilla Press to Diamond Cutter Gorilla Press Toss to Partner to Diamond Cutter That's all I can think off right now, I'll have to come back with more.
Guest Ash Ketchum Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 Wow.... thanks, Dace. And if you got more, keep 'em coming!
Guest Dace59 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 Anytime, anytime. I'll try and think if there's any move. If anyone has any questions on any of them just ask.
Guest Dace59 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 Inverted Crucifix to Diamond Cutter - Tommy Hawk Super Inverted Crucifix to Diamond Cutter Diamond Cutter from Tilt a while Counter Inverted Powerbomb w/ Diamond Cutter Combo Rolling Diamond Cutters Opp Hooked on Top Rope Continuse Stunners Reverse Relase Powreslam to Diamond Cutter (set up for running powerslam, throw opp. backwards over shoulder, catch and diamond cutter) Across Ropes Diamond Cutter Apron Diamond Cutter Inside Out Acid Drop (Acid Drop, going over ropes, land on arpon, pulling opps. throat/cheast down arcoss the ropes. Outside In Acid Drop (as above but starting on the arpon on going into the ring) Apron Acid Drop (see ECW GaC 2000) Off the top rope somersault caught into Diamond/Stunner (like a Diamond Dust, but the opp isn't in the corner, then attacker dives off the top, flips over as he passes the opp and catches them with a Diamond Cutter/Stunner on the way down) Diving Diamond Cutter Sucidia (Opp on Arpon, facing outwards, attacker in ring, runs dives over the ropes, catches the opps. head and pulls them off the arpon in a Diamond Cutter, needs table to go thorugh to soften fall) Super Across the Ropes Diamond Cutter Reverse Powerbomb w/ Diamond Cutter Combo Super Reverse Powerbomb w/ Diamond Cutter Combo Inverted Gorrila Press to Diamond Cutter (throw opp forwards infront of you, so they flip over, twist round, catch and Diamond Cutter) More later probably.
Guest razazteca Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 Dace59 I thought Johnny Ace's Ace Crusher was the orginal basis for the Diamond Cutter/Stunner?
Guest Dace59 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 Dace59 I thought Johnny Ace's Ace Crusher was the orginal basis for the Diamond Cutter/Stunner? The Inverted Neckbreaker was invented by Regal. He "taught" it to Austin and Ace. Ace started using it, and made it famous as the Ace Crusher, which all other versions are based off. But Regal did the original move.
Guest Shaved Bear Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 holy shit dace how can you know so much about one move
Guest Dace59 Posted June 21, 2002 Report Posted June 21, 2002 It's easy, I just know a lot about moves. Like my sig says, I'm a move smart. I can answer any questions, or give leasons if anyone ever wants them.
Guest The Hollywood Fashion Plate Posted June 23, 2002 Report Posted June 23, 2002 Starrcade '98: Giant sets DDP on the top rope for a Super Chokeslam, DDP reverses to Diamond Cutter in midair.
Guest Mattdotcom Posted June 23, 2002 Report Posted June 23, 2002 I remember this one like yesterday, and it never ceases to amaze me: WCW Saturday Night, 1998-DDP puts Eddy in position for a powerbomb, gives the Diamond Cutter signal, hoists him up, spins him around, and bang. I've seen someone mention it somewhere else, so I'm glad I'm not the only one to ever see this. I always thought it was kinda cool when DDP would reverse Christians reverse DDT into a cutter, too.
Guest Dace59 Posted June 23, 2002 Report Posted June 23, 2002 The other post was talking about Nova's Smash Mouth, a Powerbomb to Diamond Cutter, ripped off from DDP of course.
Guest Mattdotcom Posted June 23, 2002 Report Posted June 23, 2002 Right, right. Just listing my favorite. At least no one mentioned the Christian reversal.
Guest Dace59 Posted June 24, 2002 Report Posted June 24, 2002 Yes, but it's very forced spot. Because DDP had to be held far higher for the Inverted Reverse DDT than normal so he could grab Christians head. It looked better when Christian counterd the Diamond Cutter into an Inverted Reverse DDT.
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