Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I like your idea with a little tweak. Instead of jailing people we should not allow the mother to give birth, even if the woman is in labor. This would teach her more of a lesson. Once she's qualified, she can have the baby. I got a better ideas lets send ninjas to cut off those stupid sluts ovaries! Thatll teach them bitches a lesson! That's just silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Dude, that's harsh..but I agree that people should be motivated to do something after highschool rather than becoming useless members of society. There's a huge gap between thinking people should be motivated to do something after high school and threatening to sterilize or imprison them. If you want to be lazy after HS and make 6 dollars per hour. Feel fucking free. Just dont have children because the rest of us are going to be paying to take care of them. Wipe the foam from the corners of your mouth, take three deep breaths, then read this: You're a tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Dude, that's harsh..but I agree that people should be motivated to do something after highschool rather than becoming useless members of society. There's a huge gap between thinking people should be motivated to do something after high school and threatening to sterilize or imprison them. If you want to be lazy after HS and make 6 dollars per hour. Feel fucking free. Just dont have children because the rest of us are going to be paying to take care of them. Wipe the foam from the corners of your mouth, take three deep breaths, then read this: You're a silly tool. While his initial post as a whole may have been a little crazy in parts, I really can't see how the last thing he said is that outrageous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Of course, all of this misses something big. One of the founding principles of our country is that you can rise out of the muck of our society and make yourself something great. In Europe class distinctions meant that once born in a social group, you stayed there. In our country, you can improve upon yourself. A person emigrated to our country, worked their entire life as a laborer, hoping to build a better life for their children. My ancestors worked in the coal mines of northeastern Pennsylvania. My father was a High School dropout, but he has owned his own business for over thirty years. I was the first person in my family to graduate from college. That was the product of generations of hard work, and I take a lot of pride in that. You don't take a group of people and tell them they are unfit. Not everyone can attend college, or a trade school. Real life for many people is much more complicated than that. But in this nation it is all about the opportunity. You can not take that away from anyone. I grew up in an affluent section of Westchester County NY. Right next to me, I had Mount Vernon and the Bronx. I personally knew a ton of people who were from lower level income households who went to College. You fail to see the main reason why I think there should be a Baby License implemented in our country. It's just not to cut out welfare but it's also there to motivate people in our society to be something more with their lives. I dont know why it is so wrong to ask someone to not do drugs, to manage their money wisely and to do a two year program after High School before they can have a child. I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Teaching kids about the Beatles and how to avoid the temptations of Yu-Gi-Oh would solve all of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I grew up in an affluent section of Westchester County NY. Right next to me, I had Mount Vernon and the Bronx. I personally knew a ton of people who were from lower level income households who went to College. You fail to see the main reason why I think there should be a Baby License implemented in our country. It's just not to cut out welfare but it's also there to motivate people in our society to be something more with their lives. I dont know why it is so wrong to ask someone to not do drugs, to manage their money wisely and to do a two year program after High School before they can have a child. I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. 1. Capitalism is motivation. 2. Because I'm pretty certain it is unconstitutional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Dude, that's harsh..but I agree that people should be motivated to do something after highschool rather than becoming useless members of society. There's a huge gap between thinking people should be motivated to do something after high school and threatening to sterilize or imprison them. If you want to be lazy after HS and make 6 dollars per hour. Feel fucking free. Just dont have children because the rest of us are going to be paying to take care of them. Wipe the foam from the corners of your mouth, take three deep breaths, then read this: You're a tool. Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. I want people to be responsible as well. I don't figure on forcing them to be. Personally, I'd mandate IQ tests, which would leave a few more certain people out of the gene pool. *cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 As an aside, it amazes me that we are wasting billions of dollars on a war in Iraq, and people are up in arms over the 1% of our budget that we spend on welfare. Oh, I'm for ending the war too. Also ending the war on drugs. Basically the government should stop spending money on stuff that has proven to fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 And we wouldn't get ahead. Those people who get that free money? They spend it on consumer goods. That money then goes to companies who produce them, stores that sell them, and if you're an enterprising person you get your money right back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? Chances are she does drugs and the father isn't going to help her with the child, if it makes your answer easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. I want people to be responsible as well. I don't figure on forcing them to be. Personally, I'd mandate IQ tests, which would leave a few more certain people out of the gene pool. *cough* I have a college diploma unlike all of your Family except for you. So I must have done something right unlike your Papa who couldn't handle HS because his daddy sexually abused him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? I'm dating one. She got back into high school after a year, is now 28 and a college graduate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 As an aside, it amazes me that we are wasting billions of dollars on a war in Iraq, and people are up in arms over the 1% of our budget that we spend on welfare. Oh, I'm for ending the war too. Also ending the war on drugs. Basically the government should stop spending money on stuff that has proven to fail. Thats another real radical opinion. We should just legalize everything, only allow people to do it in their privacy of their own homes without children present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. I want people to be responsible as well. I don't figure on forcing them to be. Personally, I'd mandate IQ tests, which would leave a few more certain people out of the gene pool. *cough* I have a college diploma unlike all of your Family except for you. So I must have done something right unlike your Papa who couldn't handle HS because his daddy sexually abused him. Where did I say sexual abuse? It was physical. And if you say one more thing like that you're out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. I want people to be responsible as well. I don't figure on forcing them to be. Personally, I'd mandate IQ tests, which would leave a few more certain people out of the gene pool. *cough* I have a college diploma unlike all of your Family except for you. So I must have done something right unlike your Papa who couldn't handle HS because his daddy sexually abused him. Hey, I'm more on your side of this argument than Al's, but insulting his father isn't going to get us any closer to winning this argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? I'm dating one. She got back into high school after a year, is now 28 and a college graduate. \ OOOooo thats why you are so defensive. You're only pissed because your bitch was a detriment on society for x amount of years and everybody else had to pay to take care of her child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. I want people to be responsible as well. I don't figure on forcing them to be. Personally, I'd mandate IQ tests, which would leave a few more certain people out of the gene pool. *cough* I have a college diploma unlike all of your Family except for you. So I must have done something right unlike your Papa who couldn't handle HS because his daddy sexually abused him. Where did I say sexual abuse? It was physical. And if you say one more thing like that you're out. Ooooo, so it's ok for you to insinuate stuff about me but I cant say out loud about you. Hmmmmmmm. Sounds fair to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Make more homes for the homeless. Thereby eliminating the useless shit we have in this country. And believe me we have ALOT of useless shit in this country. Golf courses have enough land for alot of homes. I would also eliminate Wallstreet cuz Captialism would be dead. Everything is at a reasonable price like DVD's cost $20.00 and computers $10.00. Everyone would get food as I would send food mobiles to give food to people sort of like the milkman but the food man. Everyone owns everything so that means Joe Smloe with the glass eye and beer belly could own part of the New York Yankees or Trump Plaza. No inflation due to low prices for everything. Believe me, more people will buy if it is at a reasonable price. AND STAY OUT OF INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS! A military yes. But only to defend us[/N]. No special missions or shit. Socialism will take over. Yeah. That's how I would make America better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. I didn't ask if he thought that the Govt should make the decision for her. I asked does he think she should have a child. There is a big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Yeah, I am a tool because I want a person to be drug free, responsible, two years of something positive after high school and to have good financial credit to have a child. You fail to see the big picture of how much money our govt can be saving and how much further ahead we can be. I want people to be responsible as well. I don't figure on forcing them to be. Personally, I'd mandate IQ tests, which would leave a few more certain people out of the gene pool. *cough* I have a college diploma unlike all of your Family except for you. So I must have done something right unlike your Papa who couldn't handle HS because his daddy sexually abused him. Where did I say sexual abuse? It was physical. And if you say one more thing like that you're out. Ooooo, so it's ok for you to insinuate stuff about me but I cant say out loud about you. Hmmmmmmm. Sounds fair to me. You're insinuating things about people other than me. That's out of bounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. I didn't ask if he thought that the Govt should make the decision for her. I asked does he think she should have a child. There is a big difference. You clearly think you (or the government) should be able to make other people's decisions for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 YOu are talking shit about me, I am going to run my mouth. Especially when you cant see the big picture. I dont think it's alot to ask for a person to either be educated or a skilled worker, drug free and not be 100'000 dollars in debt when they have a child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foleyfanforever88 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. I didn't ask if he thought that the Govt should make the decision for her. I asked does he think she should have a child. There is a big difference. You clearly think you (or the government) should be able to make other people's decisions for them. If you take a set of keys from someone who's intoxicated and getting ready to drive, is it bad that you are making decisions for them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Ol' Smitty 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 Hint: just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they "don't see the big picture". Especially in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. I didn't ask if he thought that the Govt should make the decision for her. I asked does he think she should have a child. There is a big difference. You clearly think you (or the government) should be able to make other people's decisions for them. When money comes out of my paycheck every week to pay for the welfare of someone elses child, I should be able to make decisions for that person. I much rather have my money go towards the elderly, the sick and the people who recently lost their job and need to feed their kids. My money shouldn't be going to ignorant and uneducated who cant keep their dicks in their pants and their legs shut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2008 YOu are talking shit about me, I am going to run my mouth. Especially when you cant see the big picture. I dont think it's alot to ask for a person to either be educated or a skilled worker, drug free and not be 100'000 dollars in debt when they have a child. You're making generalizations, bad ones at that and using them to suggest policy. That's a bad idea. I can see the big picture. The big picture is that this is a minuscule part of the government's problems. But it is easier to pick on the unfortunate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NYankees Report post Posted February 12, 2008 I dont know why it's so wrong to have a person prove that they are responsible before they have a child. Because most reasonable people don't want the government making huge personal decisions for their families or anyone else's families. And this is coming from someone with an MA, wife, and full time job (who, by the way, was raised by a single mother with nothing beyond a high school education). I have a question for Al. Do you think a 17 year old girl who is unwed, a hs dropout, working at Dunkin Donuts should have a Child? No, but I know it's not up to me or some government bureaucrat to make that decision for her. I didn't ask if he thought that the Govt should make the decision for her. I asked does he think she should have a child. There is a big difference. You clearly think you (or the government) should be able to make other people's decisions for them. If you take a set of keys from someone who's intoxicated and getting ready to drive, is it bad that you are making decisions for them? That is a great analogy. Having a child when you are teen is just like drunk driving because you are bound to fuck up someone's life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites