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The biggest draw would have to be a Taker/Cena main event. No way to know who gets the duke.

 

Eh - I dont see that as a match that warrants headlining Mania to me. No offense but its just not fresh at all, really.

 

Next year w/ HHH-Edge, Michaels/Taker (which is SO ready made as others have said with Houston being the venue), and Cena/Batista are all solid matches to build upon. I wouldnt at all be shocked to see the company go over and beyond the typical standard to try to get old names back at Mania for other big matches too. Not that I expect it to happen, but I am betting the internal push to do Hogan/Austin at the 25th Mania is going to be huge, as well as perhaps them trying to coax Rock into a match on the show, perhaps against Orton or someone.

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I'd like to see 'Mania at the Astrodome again. But I doubt that will happen since Reliant Stadium has a larger capacity.

Im sure it wouldn't really hurt, I mean the building just basically sits there and I'm sure Houstonians wouldnt mind going

there for Nostalgic purposes. WrestleMania @ Astrodome just comes off better than WrestleMania @ Reliant Stadium

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I remember when Batista/Cena was suppose to be THE match... Too bad it didn't happen in 2006, because in 2005 it seemed like they were setting up for it. Both of them being the final two in the rumble, and both winning titles at Wrestlemania.

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Ending Undertaker's WM Streak is probably the closest one could get to Andre "passing the torch" to Hogan. Cena vs UT would be interesting in that you wouldn't know for sure who was going over - would UT keep his streak or would Superman Cena be the one to finally break it. However ending it in Houston might not be a good idea given the likely crowd reax. The storyline would be even better with a heel Cena.

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I still dont get the reasoning why some are saying Cena/Taker is the big draw match. Its not like the two havent worked against each other before, hell, didnt they do a match with them on one of the amped up Raws last year even? I just dont get it. While Taker/Michaels is certainly not THE match that should main event Mania next year, its a great upper card bout.

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Doing it with a fully heel Cena would be a disaster. Taker-Cena would be better served for WM26, since that'd be more appropriate if you are looking for that similarity with Hogan-Andre. As it stands, WWE has 4 big marquee matches they haven't really touched that they can pull out for WM25 (Cena/Batista, Edge/HHH, Taker/Shawn and Cena/Taker). In the case of Shawn/Taker, we've already went over why that would be different. There really isn't a better spot for those two guys next year.

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Cena vs UT would be interesting in that you wouldn't know for sure who was going over - would UT keep his streak or would Superman Cena be the one to finally break it. However ending it in Houston might not be a good idea given the likely crowd reax. The storyline would be even better with a heel Cena.

I would be against Cena being the one to end the streak for two reasons. First, he's over enough and doesn't need the rub that ending the streak could give; better to give that honor, if it ever is given, to someone who is on the verge of becoming a superstar and would benefit tremendously from it. Second, I think it would be a push too far for Cena for some people would backfire. Cena's not liked as it is, but having him end the Undertaker's streak is liable to get him very negative heat, and not the kind that turns into money. Ending it in Houston is liable to start a riot, though Cena vs. Taker at a Houston Wrestlemania would ensure some incredible heat when they get into the nearfalls and it seems like the streak is going to be broken.

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The Astrodome.. as much as I love it being a Houstonian and all, isn't fit for it. Fuck, we can't even figure out what we're going to do with it from one week to the next as I'm sure Conspiracy could attest to. One day, hotel. Next, casino. The other.. "..well, it would free up some parking for Reliant.."

 

I'd agree with others that Cena/Taker would cause a riot if Taker were to lose.

 

All I'm wondering is where has everyone heard that it's going to be in Houston? I haven't come across anything saying that we've got it locked up for 25..

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PWI said it was a lock and other promotions such as ROH are looking for venues for that weekend next year. They usually decide and announce the site internally, a couple weeks prior to the public announcement on the WM telecast. That doesn't mean plans won't suddenly change but it's unlikely. The other heavily favored sites were Indianapolis, Vegas, Dallas and Toronto.

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Well good news for my living like, five minutes away from Reliant self.

 

ROH is great too because I wouldn't mind catching a show of their's but, unless they do a Friday show, I might miss out because I'd try to see both Mania and the HoF ceremony.

 

Edit: ..oh, with the talk of people semi-complaining about the revisiting of certain cities.. does it put me in the minority that I'd actually like to see the WWE take a "Super Bowl-esque" approach to Mania and just have a handful of cities host it on a rotating basis?

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WWE already does that LA/Anaheim, Chicago, Houston, Toronto, Detroit and NYC having hosted a good majority of the shows. The new plan for WWE and WM is to take place in tourist destinations which was a key reason Orlando got the nod this year along with the opportunity for an outdoor venue. Which will benefit places like Vegas and Atlantic City which are probably due for a return. I'm surprised WWE didn't and hasn't booked a WM in New Orleans. WWE loves good pr.

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I still dont get the reasoning why some are saying Cena/Taker is the big draw match. Its not like the two havent worked against each other before, hell, didnt they do a match with them on one of the amped up Raws last year even? I just dont get it. While Taker/Michaels is certainly not THE match that should main event Mania next year, its a great upper card bout.

 

What the hell kind of reasoning are you using here? Name some people who HAVEN'T faced off with one another before. Cena/Taker has happened TWICE to my recollection. Once about 4 years ago when Cena was just a mid-carder on the rise, and your aforementioned Raw match with a non-finish. The match was quite on fire and the prospect of the streak going up against Cena's unstoppable booking would have us all snagged. What's your beef?

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Cena and Taker faced a few times over the summer of 2003. That's not the point. We've already discussed why it's not the best option beyond a heat standpoint for WM25.

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Cena and Taker faced a few times over the summer of 2003. That's not the point. We've already discussed why it's not the best option beyond a heat standpoint for WM25.

 

I 100 % agree with you that WM25 is not the time or place. Sorry for not clarifying that. I quoted RedJed's post for a reason in that I was talking specifically to him. I don't get why he doesn't see it as a huge draw or THE match and I'd like him to clarify with more than just that "it's not fresh" which I disagree with.

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The Astrodome.. as much as I love it being a Houstonian and all, isn't fit for it. Fuck, we can't even figure out what we're going to do with it from one week to the next as I'm sure Conspiracy could attest to. One day, hotel. Next, casino. The other.. "..well, it would free up some parking for Reliant.."

 

I'd agree with others that Cena/Taker would cause a riot if Taker were to lose.

 

All I'm wondering is where has everyone heard that it's going to be in Houston? I haven't come across anything saying that we've got it locked up for 25..

 

That's what I'm wondering as well. I'm willing to take everyone's word for it, but I would have thought SOMEONE around town would have said something.

 

Hopefully this new job works out. I went to Axxess (or whatever dumbass way they spell it) for X-7 and would love to actually make it to WM this time. Shoot, even my friends who don't really follow wrestling anymore want to go to the show.

 

As to the Dome, Broward's right. No one can figure out what to do with it. "Casino/hotel", "sports museum" and other ideas have been bandied about, but it's rapidly getting to the point where the best option is "wait for it to fall over". The place is horribly out of date (asbestos, etc.) and hasn't had much if any maintenance since Reliant took over for it. Hope they manage to get the smell of horseshit from the livestock show and rodeo out Reliant before WM. Maybe if they open all the doors and windows and let it air out...

 

As to a main event, Houston seems to have a good reaction to Cena despite it being more "smark"-y than some cities. However, I wouldn't like to see what the reaction would be if he ended 'Taker's streak. They couldn't even turn Austin heel in Houston vs. The Rock and he did everything short of frenching McMahon. Maybe turn HHH heel and have him win the belt at the RR so they can have a rematch from X-7. That would mean Taker winning the Rumble again though, and personally speaking I'd rather they give that shot to someone younger and ready to take the big step up to headlining 'Mania and maybe have UT co-main.

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Whyat if Undertaker vs Cena happened with Undertaker going over to extend his streak? I think the crowd, half expecting Cena to win, would go apeshit. Undertakers Streak vs Cena's Superman booking would really sell the drama.

 

I doubt it will ever happen but having the RR winner to choose to go after Undertakers Streak over a title would be interesting.

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Two men with WWE connections are listed on the 2008 College Hall of Fame ballot.

 

Former WCW World Champion and 3-time WWF Tag Team Champion, Ron Simmons, is one of 75 names on this year's ballot.

 

11. Ron Simmons, Florida State - Noseguard

-- Two-time consensus First Team All-America selection (1979-80)

-- Three-time All-South pick (1978-80)

-- Set school records for quarterback sacks in a career (25) and season (12) in 1979

-- Ranks second on FSU all-time tackles list (483)

 

Simmons is currently attending a rehabilitation center paid for by WWE.

 

Also, Lawrence Taylor is on this year's ballot. Taylor wrestled the main event of WrestleMania XI in 1995 in his only professional match, defeating the late Bam Bam Bigelow.

 

2. Lawrence Taylor, North Carolina - Linebacker

-- Named unanimous First Team All-America and ACC Player of the Year in 1980

-- Recorded 16 sacks his senior year

-- Totaled 95 tackles and caused seven fumbles in 1979

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That was the best one yet - by far. Hopefully HHH has a sense of humor about himself though. I hope Santino heads over to SD! or ECW in the summer draft, because he needs to be allowed to become a serious wrestler, rather than a comic relief boob.

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